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How to increase DM limits

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Participants Nathan Moore6lonegull16northerncyclist2Alex CookTyler Thomas6Bradley Carter12Kate Carter54Justin Harris12rustydrifter10Anthony Jackson2driftingbear29Linda Price5graniteridge6northernpilot2Anthony Barrett37ARachel Turner2rapidhawk22Michelle Palmer6melloworca6rustywalker42slycrane94George Sanders37slywolf45 …
Anthony Jackson2 Anthony Jackson2 Regular
605 messages
joined Jul 2009
#41 ·
I’m with slycrane94 on this one. This is a forum, not some instant messaging chat—and honestly, deleting posts isn't exactly rocket science if you actually bother to check your 🤷
Nathan Moore6 Nathan Moore6 Active MemberOP
65 messages
joined Jul 2018
#42 ·
lol honestly, the amount of storage those messages take up is practically nothing when you look at how many spam threads pop up every single day, plus there are plenty of folks who don't even have Facebook or iMessage just because they belong to a much older generation than the usual social media crowd

if people just don't want to allow it, then that’s one thing, but making excuses that we don't need the feature or saying we can just delete things constantly is honestly pretty lame😳
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
299 messages
joined Apr 2016
#43 ·
I honestly think one or two posts is plenty. If this thing swells to a thousand, you’ll just end up nuking through them instantly anyway—you'll hit that point where you have zero unread messages, 999 total, and you're just deleting them one by one to clear the clutter.
Bradley Carter12 Bradley Carter12 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Oct 2013
#44 ·
slywolf45 said:I honestly think one or two messages are plenty, because even if you bumped it up to 1000, you'd just blast through them instantly anyway, leaving you with zero unread, 999 total, and nothing left to do but delete them one by one.

Go ahead then, go troll the only actually decent thread on this entire forum. Please, I beg you, take it back to the FBI boards. That’s where the real group trolling happens.
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
299 messages
joined Apr 2016
#45 ·
Bradley Carter12 said:Oh, please. Let’s just go ahead and troll the only actually intelligent thread on this entire board. If you're looking for a group effort in being obnoxious, I suggest heading over to the FBI subforum. That's where the real collective trolling happens.

Did I say something incorrect?
Bradley Carter12 Bradley Carter12 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Oct 2013
#46 ·
slywolf45 said:Did I say something wrong?

Theoretically, no. But in practice, the situation is a bit different.

If the private messaging system worked more like a forum thread—grouping messages with the same subject and participants into one continuous conversation—you could argue that a limit of 1,000 messages per thread would be plenty. But given how it’s actually designed, even with 1,000 messages, we're basically at the point where the first 998 become irrelevant and can just be ignored.

As for those claiming you can just save your messages, sure, you can save them. But trying to follow a coherent conversation within those saved files is about as productive as searching for gold in the upper reaches of the Mississippi, especially when you consider how often people change their usernames; the actual information value of downloaded forum messages eventually drifts pretty close to zero.

A 1,000-message limit is really just a band-aid. Still, it's probably the best patch they can implement without putting even a 1% strain on the disk or processor subsystems of the forum's server.
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
299 messages
joined Apr 2016
#47 ·
Well, just like slycrane94 pointed out, if you’re still typing like you’re reading an old-school forum, you might want to switch over to actual instant messaging. There are at least 10,000 different apps out there now.
I honestly don't see why deleting messages is such a massive ordeal.
God, we really are incredibly lazy, aren't we?

I mean, damn, is the message count actually going to go up? I'm just venting my own frustrations here.
Bradley Carter12 Bradley Carter12 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Oct 2013
#48 ·
Not everything on this forum is meant for every single user here. And if I recall correctly, I already made it clear that my issue isn't actually with deleting things, but rather with the saving process itself.

But hey, obviously, we all love our own egos, don't we? Because without them, none of us would have an opinion to share in the first place.
northerncyclist2 northerncyclist2 Active Member
89 messages
joined Jan 2016
#49 ·
slywolf45 said:I mean, maybe one or two messages is plenty. If we bump it up to 1,000, you'll probably just fill it all up instantly anyway, leaving you with zero unread, 999 total, and then you're just deleting them one by one.

You can always save messages, too. I guess it’s just nicer to have archives of about 1,000 posts rather than dozens of tiny little archives with only 100 each.

Most modern forum software actually supports direct messaging threads now—you know, where your private chats with the same user are grouped together as one "conversation." But, I suppose that's just not how this site works 😁

Comparing PMs to a live chat is also kind of a bedarija. You might see 10,000 entries fly by on a chat in a single evening, so a limit of 500 or 1,000 for a PM isn't really much of a comparison at all.
Justin Harris12 Justin Harris12 Member
33 messages
joined Feb 2013
#50 ·
So, you guys have actually started taking slycrane94 seriously now, have you?

I don't know what world you people are living in, but it’s not 2002 anymore where social media and digital tools are all tangled up together like some primitive web
Every single forum has its own inbox and private messaging system, so this constant, mindless chanting about how "you don't need an inbox" is just completely pointless. If you don't personally need the feature, why does it bother you so much to expand it for the people who actually do?

Honestly, it's nothing more than pure spite at this point.

I can already see this thread being shut down, and we all know it'll be because of the same old trolls like slycrane94 and his crowd.

It’s honestly pathetic watching this guy jump into every single thread that gets opened just to claim he isn't writing as an admin—as if that gives him immunity from everything else—while he constantly mocks the other admin, who apparently acts like a total fool and fails to see exactly what this guy is doing.

But whatever, I don't really care; if you're going to refuse to increase the limit, fine. Why don't you just listen to slywolf45 and slycrane94 and just slash our limit down to one message, or better yet, just scrap private messaging entirely.

🙂
William Bennett53 William Bennett53 Regular
491 messages
joined Sep 2016
#51 ·
I am in favor of raising the limits, provided we follow up by scaling back those users who rack up an excessive number of reports. For instance, when someone first opens an account, they could be granted 50 messages worth of space, but once they’ve hit at least six months of tenure and 100 posts, that limit increases to 200. However, for every ten reports filed against them, the user's space should be reduced by 20 messages. The most frequent offenders would eventually see their inbox dwindle down to just 20 messages, at which point the reductions stop.
Amy Castillo4 Amy Castillo4 Active Member
72 messages
joined Dec 2011
#52 ·
Man, Dorian... 🤣
Sam Alvarez4 Sam Alvarez4 Regular
303 messages
joined Sep 2014
#53 ·
What we have right now is more than enough...
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#54 ·
I've dropped about 200 messages in here for you all, so I really hope you're happy with that! We're hitting a bit of a wall and can't squeeze out any more for now, but honestly, I think what we've got is pretty solid. 🙂
Anthony Jackson2 Anthony Jackson2 Regular
605 messages
joined Jul 2009
#55 ·
William Bennett53 said:Even the most hardcore repeat offenders eventually hit a ceiling—their inbox hits 20 messages and just stays there. No more shrinking.

Just let them handle PManje through the admin panel—you know, that "You have received..." notification style.image
Justin Harris12 Justin Harris12 Member
33 messages
joined Feb 2013
#56 ·
Thanks, rustydrifter10. I really appreciate you putting this together; this increase is going to be a huge help for me.
Bradley Carter12 Bradley Carter12 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Oct 2013
#57 ·
Thanks, rustydrifter10. It’s just a little something, but I mean it.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#58 ·
Justin Harris12 said:Thanks, rustydrifter10! Seriously, what you put together is awesome, and this increase is going to be a huge help for me.

I'm really glad to hear that. 🙂
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#59 ·
rustydrifter10 said:I dumped about 200 messages on you guys, so hopefully that satisfies the craving. We're tapped out for now, but I figure this should be plenty. 🙂

And how exactly did you calculate that limit?
Anthony Jackson2 Anthony Jackson2 Regular
605 messages
joined Jul 2009
#60 ·
hollowtrucker77 said:how did you actually calculate how much is possible?

just a guessimage

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