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Complaints regarding moderator @Sacreus

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Participants casualwolf39Nicole Turner35ambercyclist50Michelle Evansbluemason3redheron30Jerry Vaughn2rustydrifter10ADaniel Diaz79granitecyclist99Ronald JonesSophia Thomas7
Nicole Turner35 Nicole Turner35 Newcomer
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#21 ·
redheron30 said:Good grief, what kind of joke is this? It’s pretty obvious you just can’t handle anyone having an opinion different from yours. You’ve basically made your diagnosis your whole identity—honestly, I wouldn't go as far as saying you have a fetish for it, but still.
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at the end of the day, you’re acting like a total toddler.

Do me a favor and back off, because this isn't a topic about me.
It's not about you playing lawyer either, or anyone else for that matter.
Just read the damn thread title.
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#22 ·
ambercyclist50 said:bluemason3 and redheron30, why don't you two go start your own thread? You can have your little debate over there.

You can't really say that, not after you explicitly implied that someone brought me here on purpose just to trigger this specific situation.

ambercyclist50 said:bluemason3, I have zero interest in debating technical matters with self-proclaimed experts. That goes for redheron30, too.

This is a textbook ad hominem attack, which seems to be your go-to move. If you think I’m wrong, then make an actual argument. Show me a specific statute, a regulation from a governing body, or a peer-reviewed study that proves my point is contraindicated. Otherwise, it’s just sad to watch "self-proclaimed experts"—and to be clear, I already stated I am not one—claim to know more than you about a subject where you're constantly trying to play the ultimate authority.
If you’re acting as @Sacreus’s legal counsel, just say so.

You’re projecting again. I never said anything for or against what @Sacreus claims regarding those client treatments—I don't know. I'm just talking about what I actually know, which has nothing to do with him.

Your contribution to the old thread is so negligible that I don't really see you as a relevant voice in this discussion about the topic about BPD (not BPD itself).

You’re probably right, which is exactly why we stopped talking about it on the main thread, yet here you are, dragging the whole debate back into the light.
A Anonymous Veteran
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#23 ·
I’m filing a formal complaint against the moderator @Sacreus. It feels like there's a massive double standard happening here; he isn't holding himself to the same standards he enforces on everyone else. Honestly, how can someone be a moderator for a topic about BPD when they haven't even contributed a single meaningful post to the discussion in nine years? Just look at what he's done to this community. As a mod, he’s basically given himself a free pass to troll and act out without any consequences.

I honestly feel like he’s just baiting patients into his office by pushing those "quick fix" miracle therapies. As a moderator, he should be setting the standard for everyone else, but instead, he's out here lying, manipulating, being shady, trolling, and straight-up insulting people.

bluemason3 and redheron30—honestly, looking back over the last nine years, you two combined haven't even put out five posts total. I don't get why everyone is acting so worked up all of a sudden. Where were you guys during all those previous years? It’s the same story with @Sacreus, too. For someone who claims to be such a high-level therapist, he hasn't contributed a single word to this discussion until now. It’s pretty bizarre.

bluemason3 and redheron30, the rest of us who have been venting here actually put in the work—we’ve clocked over 1,500 posts on this thread. What’s your excuse?
redheron30 redheron30 Newcomer
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#24 ·
ambercyclist50 said:bluemason3, I’m not interested in debating actual facts with self-proclaimed experts. Same goes for redheron30. If you guys are just acting as Sacreus's lawyers, then just say so.

Your input on this old thread is so negligible that I don't even consider you relevant to a discussion regarding the topic about BPD (not the disorder itself)

redheron30, insulting someone's intelligence is definitely an insult. Go read Nicole Turner35's massive wall of text carefully. Like Max says—might as well just go full kamikaze at this point.

You pretty much just described your own character. I don't categorize people by their diagnosis or fake expertise—I just read posts and respond objectively. As far as I'm concerned, you can keep going with your elitist-patriarchal ego trip on a thread that clearly only exists to feed your vanity. 🙂

I'm nobody's lawyer, and I don't speak in the plural using "we" or "us."
It feels infantile to me.

@topic
imho Sacreus wasn't being a jerk, breaking rules, or "trolling." He communicates decently, unlike some people here. Look, if the majority wants him gone, fine—just throw him a bone and let there be peace in our time. ☕
Nicole Turner35 Nicole Turner35 Newcomer
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#25 ·
I’m only daring to post this because we’re in the BPD subforum...
Seriously, why on earth did I get flagged for post #21 just because I asked another user to be decent and actually stay on topic instead of attacking me?
On top of that, his original post—which is basically one giant paragraph dedicated to psychoanalyzing my character (and honestly, I won't even go as far as saying he was being abusive, though it felt close) wasn't penalized at all. And from what I can see, he's still going at it with the exact same attitude.

What is even happening here? 🤷

I mention that I've been dealing with the topic about BPD for years, and this guy decides to call it nonsense and then has the nerve to claim I have some kind of fetish for my diagnosis? 🤦
How much longer is this kind of behavior going to be tolerated? 🤦
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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#26 ·
Nicole Turner35 said:I’m actually brave enough to bring this up since we’re in the BPD subforum...
Seriously, why on earth did I get flagged for post #21 just because I asked another user to be polite and stay on track instead of attacking me?
On top of that, his original post—which spends an entire paragraph basically trying to define my whole personality (I won't go so far as to say it was outright insulting, but still) wasn't even penalized. And from what I can see, he’s still going at it with that same attitude.

What is even happening here? 🤷

I share that I've been dealing with BPD for years, and someone decides to treat it like a joke and then has the nerve to tell me I have a fetish for my own diagnosis? 🤦
How much longer is this kind of behavior going to be tolerated? 🤦


You're being asked to stop the back-and-forth; you ignored the warning. Besides, this is off-topic, so please, let's not take this any further.
Nicole Turner35 Nicole Turner35 Newcomer
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#27 ·
rustydrifter10 said:Look, you've been asked to stop the bickering, and since you ignored the warning, we're moving on. This is totally off-topic anyway, so let's not take this any further.

Just one more thing (honestly, feel free to just ban this thread, I deserve it at this point) —
my post was already typed up before your warning even hit my screen. There’s a three-minute gap between our posts.
My bad. 🙈
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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#28 ·
Nicole Turner35 said:Just one more (we can use a separate thread for this), I actually hit send on my post right before your warning popped up—there was at least a three-minute gap between our posts.
My bad! 🙈

Apology accepted, no need to start a whole new thread over it. 🙂

Let's get back to the actual topic, everyone.
Daniel Diaz79 Daniel Diaz79 Newcomer
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#29 ·
Michelle Evans said:Are we complaining about @Sacreus acting as a moderator, or just about him as a regular user?

With all due respect, I can't help but wonder if we can actually separate those two roles from one another.

A few other people here have already pointed out how sacreusov seems to be leaning on his moderator powers to steer the conversation by deleting questions he doesn't like and handing out penalty points, all while he feels perfectly fine being openly rude to other members.

Isn't that enough reason right there to strip away his moderator privileges?

His understanding of the topic about BPD really shows through the way he constantly sidesteps and avoids answering any direct questions.

I'm just a layperson who mostly reads this thread out of curiosity rather than posting much, but I'm certainly not from another planet—it's pretty easy to see when someone is just using a discussion thread for self-promotion without providing anything of actual substance.

I was thinking earlier, would a moderator on a medical forum, say an American pulmonology subforum, be allowed to claim that chewing cabbage leaves cures lung cancer in just two or three months?

I mean, sure, we should always be open to different perspectives 😁 but seriously, making a claim like that without offering a single shred of evidence???

And then just ignoring repeated requests for an answer???

Not to mention the subtle mockery that follows when people try to follow up.

P. S. apsurdan is honestly the only thing that describes this whole situation.

Best, 🙂
granitecyclist99 granitecyclist99 Newcomer
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#30 ·
Since I can't even access the thread right now, I'm definitely not going to go whining about @Sacreus, though I suppose I am basically at the mercy of @Sacreus's moderation to let me back in if I want to post there—which means, theoretically, all three of us would have to be on the same page just to get me permission to write again...

And look, I already gave my word to miss Pringles, just a regular old chip-muncher, that I wouldn't be such a sleazy... oops, I mean trollish... person anymore...

Besides, Mr. svet and I don't really have any theoretical reasons to clash over the topic about BPD. It’s pretty obvious he wants to debate these various treatment methods, whereas everyone knows my take is that BPD is incurable and that any sort of symptom relief just happens spontaneously once someone hits their 40s. If we did actually butt heads, there wouldn't even be much of a debate; we'd probably just trade some insults like normal people and then go our separate ways...😍 I suspect he’d end up leaving the thread because... well, I guess it's pretty clear why. Nobody understands the BPD dynamic quite like I do; my arguments are deeply sincere, true, and indisputable. I'm an expert in neurophysiology, neuropathology, and neurohistology (I used to be a teaching assistant in the latter two fields), so I stay on top of the latest scientific breakthroughs regarding BPD matters, specifically keeping up with the newest updates in the DSM-V (where they actually accepted my stance on the non-existence of NPD, treating it instead as just a cluster of behaviors and actions without a specific personality structure)

Trust me, if I'm on the thread, nobody is going to be complaining about @Sacreus.....
Daniel Diaz79 Daniel Diaz79 Newcomer
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#31 ·
Has this thread just wandered off into some digital wasteland somewhere, or am I just losing my mind? 🤔
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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#32 ·
Daniel Diaz79 said:Has this thread just vanished into some digital void, or what? 🤔

No, it’s just temporarily hidden from view.
redheron30 redheron30 Newcomer
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#33 ·
Nicole Turner35 said:So I mention I've been dealing with BPD for years and they just write off my whole life as some little joke—and then top it off by claiming I have a fetish for the diagnosis? 🤦
How long are we supposed to put up with this crap? 🤦

I'm taking back what I said about the fetish. My bad.
My point was just that I don't see you as a diagnosis—I see you as a person who's responsible for what they write.
Nicole Turner35 Nicole Turner35 Newcomer
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#34 ·
Michelle Evans said:Nah, the thread isn't gone, it's just invisible right now.

I can see it, I can see it! 😬 So yeah, it's back up.

What's the deal with the complaints here? Are we all just sitting around waiting for someone to reply or quote something?

Here's an idea: maybe it'd be smart to just start a "Sacreusov BPD corner" over on the alternative subforum, then everyone gets what they want and we can all move on. 🙂
ambercyclist50 ambercyclist50 Member
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#35 ·
Nicole Turner35 said:It’s pretty obvious 😬—so, yeah, it’s back open again.

What’s the deal with our complaints here? Are we just sitting around waiting for someone to actually address them or give us a quote?

I have a suggestion: maybe it would be a good idea to start a "Sacreusov BPD corner" thread over on the Alternative subforum—that way, everyone gets what they want. 🙂

Exactly—what is the actual point of lodging these complaints?

I solemnly swear that I will never, ever post a single word in that Sacreusov BPD corner on the Alternative board. 😁
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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#36 ·
The end result is that I voided the assigned card. I believe it was an error on the part of the system.
To prevent any debate over whether Sacreus should be removed from moderation because of this mistake, I want to emphasize that Sacreus generally does a fantastic job moderating the PDF section, and even moderators make mistakes sometimes. That’s why we have supermoderators (or admins) to step in when things go wrong. That is exactly what I did.

Posts that were appealed can remain deleted. These instances involve users repeatedly asking questions that have already been answered. They serve no purpose and just clutter the thread.

That covers Sacreus's moderation regarding this thread.

Regarding the sanctioning of this specific post—since no other posts were mentioned—the complaints seem to be quite general:
Nicole Turner35 said:/cut/
and being told directly that I'm just rambling and that I'm slow. And coming from a moderator, no less. 🤦

Nicole Turner35 said:In response to being systematically ignored and subsequently belittled for asking questions, I responded with an insult, basically saying, "Why are you all rambling"... "I have experience working with people with disabilities, so I can repeat myself a hundred times if I have to..."

Next time you appeal a post, please refrain from adding your own interpretations of what was actually written. A direct copy-paste will work perfectly fine.

The controversial entry reads:
Given everything discussed, I can only repeat what I've already said... since I have experience working with individuals with special needs, I have patience for it...

Let's address this "everything discussed" part first.

Moderators participating in discussions as regular users are allowed to communicate without sounding like a stuffy academic journal from the Smithsonian, and they don't need to act like they're walking on eggshells at all times. If someone chooses to sound overly rigid, that's their prerogative.

And let's not forget—this thread has been lightly moderated. There was no grand fanfare or red carpet treatment for how this was handled in the opening post.
Please, read the first post again. If anything is unclear, look back at the old thread to see the comparison of what used to get sanctioned there. I assure you, language like this wouldn't have been flagged then, nor would it be flagged anywhere else on the entire PDF.

As for the second half of the sentence:
since I have experience working with individuals with special needs, I have patience for it

He provided some clarification on what he meant a few posts down...
No, my point was that I have plenty of pedagogical patience—or didactic patience, if you prefer the term. I'm used to the constant repetition required to explain the same concept through different lenses... so, because of that, I don't mind trying to approach things from various angles...

Just because you don't want to accept it doesn't mean it isn't true...
I don't see any reason to sanction this post. I'll leave that call to the administrators...

I just need to clarify one thing here. It was mentioned that his expertise carries extra weight because of the color of his handle...
casualwolf39 said:It’s even more dangerous when someone in a moderator role—someone whose word actually carries weight—promotes a quick two-month fix. It trivializes the years of hard work everyone puts into PT and gives a false sense of hope to those who are only just starting their journey...

A person's username doesn't carry any weight when we're talking about actual expertise. It doesn't suddenly cancel out, say, sheer stupidity. If it did, some of my own posts—which rank pretty high on the idiocy scale—would be perfectly acceptable... while every single one of the admin's posts would be a masterclass in genius. Unfortunately, that just isn't how it works... 😢
True expertise is proven through debate. There really is no other way...

That’s all I have to say regarding the appeals. The administrators can review the PDF version of the thread along with this one, and feel free to adjust my decisions if necessary...

Warm greetings to you...
granitecyclist99 granitecyclist99 Newcomer
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#37 ·
...hehehe, I mean, any self-proclaimed expert can see this is all just a big buildup for the inevitable debate over whether Bisolex or Iceland Moss is actually better for treating tuberculosis... The real good stuff won't even start until I get back :-)
Ronald Jones Ronald Jones Active Member
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#38 ·
I’m honestly just venting at @Sophia Thomas7. What kind of absolute hypocrisy is this??? Even though it happened a while ago, I can still feel the frustration. How is it that I—someone who wasn't even instigating anything—get slapped with a three-day ban, while the people posting total nonsense, stirring the pot, and picking fights with everyone in sight get absolutely nothing??? 😲 😲 Talk about blatant double standards. ??? 🙂 🙂

And seriously, why is it that on this digital playground the actual trolls never get hit with at least a three-day ban??? 🙂 🙂
Ronald Jones Ronald Jones Active Member
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#39 ·
Oh, absolutely, it seems I’m certainly not alone in my frustrations regarding @Sophia Thomas7. It is high time this "tough guy" (can you even imagine what kind of "tough guy" 😁 😁 ) stepped down from his moderator position. ☕ ☕

Long live "democracy" here on the American forums!!! 😉 😲
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
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#40 ·
Donna Young said:I’m honestly baffled by @Sophia Thomas7. Talk about hypocrisy!!! Even though this happened a while back, I still remember it vividly. How is it that I—someone who wasn't even stirring the pot—get slapped with a three-day ban, while the actual idiots who post nonsense, provoke people, and start fights everywhere get absolutely nothing??? 😲 😲 Where is the fairness??? 🙂 🙂

You’re complaining about something from ages ago, yet you haven't even received a single warning from me, let alone a ban. Plus, you’re venting in the wrong thread. Alright, point taken.

Edit: Correction, you now have one warning for commenting on moderation in the wrong thread/PDF.

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