Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

Kate Ward50 said:..

They’ll play the "we have to follow the Law" card when defending Cyrillic signs in Warsaw, but they’ll break those exact same laws in a heartbeat just to keep Los Angeles Lakers fans out of the stadium.

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Small side note—this whole legal defense regarding the signage over there is a total scam. Let's be real: they’re following the letter of the law while completely ignoring the fact that it's conditional on two other clauses (8 and 16), which they don't give a damn about—even though the leadership keeps harping on it.

Anyway, thank God we actually have lawyers and legal pros willing to stand up for what's right. You see it working perfectly with the NFL Ultras, and if things worked half as effectively with the guys back in our much more aggressive territory, those slimy politicians would be getting hit way harder.

And I hope everything goes smoothly with the crew in LA. ☕

The police are making moves out in that small town in Arizona—already making arrests over in Columbus... Just stay smart!

Hang in there today!

They’re at every single gas station☕

I feel like they’re just letting this whole fan mixing situation slide for now. Eventually, one or two hotheads are going to clash seat-to-seat—it's a statistical certainty regardless of the game or the crowd. When it finally happens, all these people will start screaming about how fans are nothing but animals and how voucher systems were totally justified. Then, the law will hit back so hard you won't be able to leave your own city without being surrounded by police. That's exactly what these bastards are waiting for.

And not a single opportunistic journalist or member of the public is speaking up to say this whole farce is a hundred times worse from a security standpoint. It's worse from any standpoint. We've got police on foot at every single match, and the government is bleeding massive amounts of money for something that wasn't even necessary before. Everything is objectively worse now than it was before the vouchers, because back then, we actually knew who was going where and where everyone was standing to cheer. Screw all of this, and screw the BBB fans shouting insults.

Brandon Anderson34 said:I get the feeling they’re just letting this whole fan mixing situation slide for now. Once a couple of hotheads inevitably clash seat-to-seat—which is bound to happen eventually by the law of large numbers, regardless of the game or the teams—they'll start complaining about how fans are thugs and how the voucher system was totally justified. Then the law will kick in, and you'll be stuck in a ring outside your own city, unable to move an inch. That's what those bastards are waiting for.

And not one opportunistic journalist or member of the public or whoever is actually speaking up to say this farce is a hundred times worse from a security standpoint? Or any other standpoint, really. Police presence is required at every single game now; the government is pouring massive amounts of money into something that wasn't necessary before. It's all much worse than it was before the vouchers, because back then, we knew who was going where and where everyone was standing. To hell with all of them, and to hell with the BBB crowd shouting their usual nonsense.

http://www.dalmacijanews.com/Split/V...tribinama.aspx

The inevitable questions regarding the fans have surfaced, specifically concerning the controversial implementation of visitor vouchers. According to Johnson, everything is progressing perfectly, even though certain fan groups have skillfully bypassed the new rules, essentially making a mockery of the voucher system. Listening to the minister, you'd think that was the intention all along.

"Any action that ensures peace and sportsmanlike cheering in the stadiums is a success. Some people mock this initiative, but it yields results; fans are cooperating and the atmosphere remains sporting. I hope it continues this way," concluded Johnson.

Just go home. It's a mess. They're happy with this; it fell right into their laps. And what you're predicting? It's looking very real.

I honestly can't believe how sneaky they are—just like every other shitty politician out there, they’re twisting the whole situation to suit themselves. They couldn't care less about people's basic rights or the fact that taxpayers are basically funding their little social experiments. And now, just like that, they think they've "solved" the issue of gang violence at football games in the US by using vouchers. What kind of country are we even running? Honestly, the worst part is that our own people are just going to roll over and take it.

Peter Barrett said:- Any initiative that manages to secure peace and promote good sportsmanship at the stadiums is a success. Some people mock this approach, but it actually works; fans are cooperating, and the atmosphere at the games remains respectful. I just hope we can keep this momentum going," Johnson concluded.[/I]

Go home, you loser. They’re perfectly happy with how things are; they got exactly what they wanted, and that bleak scenario you're predicting? It's looking more like a reality every day.

This guy is such an absolute clown, it's pathetic. He should probably apply this "recipe" to every other area of life. For example, if a husband and wife are constantly fighting, why not just have the police show up and beat the hell out of both of them every single week? That way, they'd be forced to unite against a common enemy, and there'd be no need for divorce. See? The action gets results.

The main thing is making sure the swamp stays properly irrigated.

Peter Barrett said:http://www.dalmacijanews.com/Split/V...tribinama.aspx

Then comes the inevitable question about the fans—specifically those controversial vouchers for away supporters. According to Johnson, everything is going perfectly smoothly, even though various fan groups have skillfully bypassed the new regulations, essentially making a mockery of the whole voucher scheme. Listening to the Secretary, you'd think that was actually the goal all along.

"Any measure that ensures peace and keeps the atmosphere sporting at the stadiums is a success. Some people might mock this move, but it’s yielding results; fans are cooperating and the atmosphere remains civilized. I hope we can keep moving in this direction," Johnson concluded.

Just go home; it's a disaster. They're happy with this. It was handed to them on a silver platter, and what you're predicting? It's becoming a very real possibility.

What more do you want? Johnson basically admitted they just wanted flares in the stadium. Plus, if they hadn't blocked ID checks at the gates, it would have been a total win for us. Just because you managed to get in with an ID doesn't mean a friend won't be stopped and told they can't enter because they're on some list. So either everyone goes in together, or nobody goes in at all. That's why we're fighting against these lists. If we're a group, then let's act like one!

Look, it's true, but this isn't some magic fix.
Are we really going to spend forever fighting every single night, or are we finally going to reach some kind of lasting peace?
This is just the first step in a much longer process...
And honestly—thank God everyone is happy that folks from New York can stroll through Miami or LA without any trouble or riots breaking out.

Just stumbled upon some wild stuff about major hooligan groups while reading up on them:
an article about the Delije
http://www.businessinsider.com/europ...grade-mexico-4
"During the 1980s, gang violence at a football game broke out. It was even reported that one hooligan kidnapped a fan of Hajduk Split and then committed a violent assault over the course of two days."

And here's another source claiming the exact same thing:
http://observer.theguardian.com/osm/...123137,00.html
"Civil unrest during political instability saw football violence spike. Hooligans at a stadium rampaged to the sound of British punk bands; the Red Star ultras attacked rival fans using bayonets and iron bars. In the United States, one hooligan leader kidnapped a supporter of Hajduk Split and committed a violent assault over a period of two days."

Does anyone know more about this?...

neonpuma54 said:I was reading up on some of the world's most notorious hooligan groups the other day—just falling down a rabbit hole—and I stumbled upon something pretty interesting:
So, I just stumbled upon this article about the Delije—or should I say, the hooligans at the stadium. Honestly, reading through it feels like watching a slow-motion train wreck where everyone involved thinks they’re the hero of a gritty noir film. It’s all there: the chaos, the supposed "glory," and that specific brand of madness that seems to bubble up whenever things get tense. It’s pretty wild how much energy goes into this kind of stuff. You see these groups acting like they own the streets, fueled by a sense of loyalty that most people would find exhausting, let alone dangerous. It’s not just about sports anymore; it’s this whole subculture built around friction and bravado. Reading about it makes you wonder if anyone actually enjoys the fallout, or if the adrenaline rush is just that addictive. Just my two cents, though.
I can't believe we’re actually seeing this play out. It looks like the push to upgrade Mexico's status is finally gaining some real momentum. Honestly, watching the political maneuvering behind the scenes—it’s almost impressive how much they're pushing for this integration despite all the friction. It feels like the whole region is hitting a tipping point where things either stabilize or just spiral further into chaos. You have to wonder if the current administration is actually ready for the level of scrutiny that comes with this kind of elevation, or if they're just playing for time. Given how much civil unrest during political instability has been the norm lately, I'm skeptical about whether the groundwork is actually being laid for anything permanent. It’s one thing to talk big in Brussels, but quite another to deal with the actual implementation on the ground.
Back in the eighties, you had hooligans at a stadium using iron bars and clubs to attack rival supporters during various matchups. There were even reports about some hooligan kidnapping a Hajduk Split fan and subjecting him to a brutal, multi-day violent assault with a broom handle."

And here’s yet another source claiming the exact same thing:
http://observer.theguardian.com/osm/...123137,00.html
Civil unrest during political instability really hit its peak right alongside the breakdown of federal authority. You had hooligans at a stadium going wild to the beat of British punk bands, while the Red Star ultras engaged in gang violence at a football game, using everything from bayonets to iron bars to attack their rivals. In the United States, some hooligan leader actually kidnapped a Hajduk Split supporter and subjected him to a violent assault involving a broom handle that lasted for two whole days."

Does anyone actually know anything more about this?

Look, Zar—this whole Parangal thing is just the same old story. It’s that ancient, twisted custom of trying to humiliate an opponent through a violent assault. Same old nonsense.

Who was actually there to witness it! 🙂 🤣

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Honestly, there’s just something so much more powerful about these shots compared to those grainy little pictures you see from the cages, don't you think? ☕

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Now, this is what fighting back against those cheap coupons and other pests looks like...

May this cancer cell rot slowly and painfully...

He’s basically saying he wants us to win the championship right this second!

granitemarlin83 said:May this cancer grow slowly and painfully, you absolute disaster....

Perfect! This is exactly what we needed right about now.

"I have to stay at Real Madrid because of Liverpool FC, just so there isn't some freak accident where they actually take first place under this current Board! I couldn't live with myself. Seeing Liverpool FC win the championship would kill me faster than any disease. I'd undergo surgery standing up just to spite those Miami residents."

Honestly, you couldn't write better lines if you were trying to drum up support, pack the stadiums, or patch the holes in this club just so we can finally crawl out of this mess.

Here are a few more shots from Columbus. Just a little something for this epic edition—not really about the fandom, more just about how many people showed up 🙂 (hope you guys can actually see them)

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