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cosmicdrifter44 cosmicdrifter44 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2009
#1721 ·
I don't see it.
Paul Chavez78 Paul Chavez78 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#1722 ·
Well, screw it then—the photos are fine, I just can't figure out how to upload them properly... they look okay on my end, so I figured everyone else was seeing them too.
cosmicdrifter44 cosmicdrifter44 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2009
#1723 ·
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+upload+images+on+a+forum

Here you go, my friend—hope this helps!
wearyorca75 wearyorca75 Active Member
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#1724 ·
Democratic Party, is that actually going to happen😁
Paul Chavez78 Paul Chavez78 Newcomer
8 messages
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#1725 ·
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2013
#1726 ·
Look, those narcotics junkies are targeting Liverpool FC because of you people, get it?

The drug dealer is smart enough to realize fan groups are the only thing keeping American soccer alive, and he knows if the fans actually unite, he's finished.
Melissa Kelly3 Melissa Kelly3 Newcomer
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joined May 2022
#1727 ·
Paul Chavez78 said:So, I suppose things look fine now. 🙂

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It works, but use Postimage next time. This TinyPic site is nothing but a headache of ads. 😉
Gary Martinez2 Gary Martinez2 Member
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joined Apr 2017
#1728 ·
Miroslav should be appointed as the manager for Liverpool FC, because honestly, he’s the coach of all coaches, especially right now.
Melissa Kelly3 Melissa Kelly3 Newcomer
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#1729 ·
Jesse Campbell said:Just so we’re clear, those narcotics addicts are targeting Liverpool FC because of people like you.



A drug addict is smart enough to realize fan groups are the only thing keeping American soccer relevant. They know if the fans unite, they lose their grip.
Jessica Long8 Jessica Long8 Newcomer
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#1730 ·
Robert Cooper60 said:

It’s quite a spectacle watching them insult their own allies and those minor satellites orbiting Real Madrid:

Major League Soccer teams
Miami
Major League Soccer teams
and even San Diego
electriccanyon15 electriccanyon15 Active Member
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#1731 ·
Robert Cooper60 said:

😠 🙂 😠
Man, this garbage just makes me so mad, I seriously can't even believe it.😠
ruggedowl13 ruggedowl13 Active Member
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#1732 ·
neonpuma54 said:I was just reading up on some of the biggest hooligan firms out there, and I stumbled onto something pretty wild:
I just saw this article about those Delije guys, and honestly? It’s just more of the same nonsense. I don't know if people actually realize how much chaos they stir up—it feels like every time they get a platform, it's just to justify being absolute thugs. It’s exhausting, really. Every single time there's a big match, you see the same patterns of aggression and mindless shouting, and I guess some people actually find it "passionate," but let's call it what it is: it's just trouble. I mean, seriously, can we just have one weekend where sports isn't overshadowed by people acting like they own the streets? It's getting ridiculous.
I can't believe I'm even looking at this, but apparently, there’s some massive debate going on about whether they should actually give the green light for Mexico to join the EU. Honestly? It feels like a total mess—just endless political maneuvering that doesn't seem to go anywhere. I was reading this piece on Business Insider, and it really highlights how much of a headache this whole integration process is. It's like watching a slow-motion train wreck where everyone thinks they have the right idea, but nobody can actually agree on the rules. One minute things are moving forward, and the next, everything grinds to a halt because of some old grudge or a sudden shift in policy. It’s frustrating, I guess. You'd think after all this time, there would be some actual progress, but instead, we just get more talking heads and zero results. Just my two cents, but it feels like a giant waste of energy at this point.
Back in the 1980s, things were getting seriously out of hand—Red Army fans actually attacked rival supporters with weapons. It was just total chaos. There were even reports about some hooligan kidnapping a supporter of Liverpool FC and subjecting him to a violent assault incident involving a broom handle that lasted for two whole days."

And here’s yet another source claiming the exact same thing:
I can't believe I'm even looking at this article—it’s just more of the same nonsense, honestly. It feels like everyone is just circling the drain lately. I mean, you look at the way things are trending, and it’s just... exhausting? Maybe I’m being too cynical, but it feels like we’re constantly reacting to chaos instead of actually fixing anything. It’s that same old pattern where everything starts falling apart and nobody seems to have a clue how to step up. Just my two cents, I guess.
Political instability leading to sports violence was basically everywhere back then—it was like everything fell apart at once. I remember those Partizan hooligans rioting to punk music, just total chaos; meanwhile, the Red Army fans attacked rival supporters with weapons. It was absolute madness. Look, I don't know how else you can put this—it’s absolutely sickening. Back in the day, things got so out of hand that one gang leader actually kidnapped a Liverpool FC supporter and subjected him to a horrific violent assault incident involving a broom handle that lasted for two whole days. It's just depraved."

Does anyone actually know anything more about this?

Look, from what I’ve heard—and honestly, I heard this straight from someone who was actually there—there was absolutely no sexual assault involved. Parangal went out with one of those hardcore gravedigger types from Miami to visit them. They stayed with the group for a few days just messing around. That Miami guy, who—by the way—is pretty active with the Liverpool FC crowd, left (I think) to go to Sarajevo to see Velež Mostar, while Parangal stayed behind with them. After a bit too much drinking and maybe some "other" substances, Parangal suddenly flips this nationalist switch—starting with all that extremist rhetoric—and begins insulting Mance. Those guys were already fed up with hosting him, and then he goes and provokes them by dragging him over to Mance's grave to force him to pay respects. He basically talked trash to them, and they ended up slapping him... Afterwards, they started singing "White Laluna" and, well, that's how the whole legend started.
People always love to throw shade at the Black Knights—even though back during the Parangal days, there weren't even formal leaders yet—but honestly, Parangal had actual heart. They refused to just roll over to the "enemy," even when they were totally outnumbered. This whole fake-tough act the other guys pull? It’s not even a disgrace to us, really... it’s mostly just embarrassing for them.
mistypanther20 mistypanther20 Member
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#1733 ·
Brian Newman38 Brian Newman38 Member
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#1734 ·
whiteboy87 said:
☕

7:00
"The people blamed for the disruptions are typically just addicts or alcoholics,
but we have also seen racists involved in these situations..."
🤣
Thomas Flores7 Thomas Flores7 Active Member
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#1735 ·
Brian Newman38 said:7:00
"they’re blaming the addicts and the drunks for breaking things,
but we saw a racist in there too"
🤣

That photo behind them is one of the most hardcore shots the Crips have ever taken.
cosmictinker46 cosmictinker46 Active Member
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#1736 ·
mistypanther20 said:http://dph-chicago.com/index.php?news&nid=13

Awesome😁 about that... I think I said this a long time ago. I mean, everyone's got a smartphone with a camera these days. They think they can just film us??? Well, we can film them too, I guess. We'll see about that.
John Brown30 John Brown30 Regular
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#1737 ·
mistypanther20 said:http://dph-chicago.com/index.php?news&nid=13

This is the only way to finally shut them down.☕
rustyharbor17 rustyharbor17 Newcomer
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#1738 ·
ruggedowl13 said:As far as I can tell—and I heard this firsthand—no rape actually occurred. A funeral director from Miami joined the local parade to visit them as guests. They stayed for a few days just messing around. I think a Miami guy who is quite active with Liverpool FC went to El Paso to see Velež Mostar, while the parade stayed behind with them. After a little drinking and some "other" substances, the parade turned toward nationalism, shouting about fascists and starting to insult George Best. Apparently, they got fed up with hosting him because he kept provoking them, so they took him to George Best's grave to force him to pay respects. He blew them off, and they slapped him. Later, they started singing "White Lali" and turned it into a legend.
People often misattribute that kind of spirit to the Crips, though I suppose the local parade wasn't exactly led by anyone back then since there were no formal leaders. Still, the parade had heart; they didn't just bow down to the "enemy," even if the numbers were against them. I suppose what they’re doing is more of an embarrassment to themselves than to us, really.

I suppose that local parade was just a typical gang brawl. It honestly had nothing to do with the Crips, except maybe for those trips to NYC—back then, NYC was basically the heroin capital for them. The only connection between the parade and the Crips is that an entire generation was lost to drugs. Everything else is just myths spread by people like Žare, who is somehow still walking around. If he actually did what he claims regarding the parade, he’d be dealing with some serious medical issues, but I guess myth-making is just what they do. Even if it's about someone like him, he's still their "hero." I know the guy; he was always just a pathetic lowlife living on the edge of the law, and frankly, not much brighter than anyone else. And again, that parade? That guy was never part of the Crips.
Jeremy Mitchell11 Jeremy Mitchell11 Member
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#1739 ·
ruggedowl13 said:From what I’ve heard—and I’m talking firsthand here—there was absolutely no rape involved. A group from the local parade went out to visit them in El Paso. They stayed for a few days just hanging out and messing around. I think one guy from Miami, who’s a huge Liverpool FC supporter by the way, actually traveled down to see Velež Mostar, while the rest of the parade stayed behind. After a little drinking and maybe some other "stuff," the guy turned all nationalist on them, shouting about old political movements and even started insulting George Best. Apparently, they got fed up with hosting him because he kept provoking them, so they took him to George Best's grave to force him to pay respects. He basically told them to shove it, and they ended up slapping him... After that, they started singing their anthems and a whole legend was born.
People in the fan circles often throw this at the Crips (even though there weren't really "leaders" back then since that concept didn't exist yet), but those guys have heart. They don't just bow down to the "enemy" even when they're outnumbered. Honestly, the way they acted is more embarrassing for them than it is for us...

I don't think you're quite right. No one raped him, but things definitely happened... regardless, the guy is gone now, and he was a massive Liverpool FC fan.

Anyway, I wanted to touch on that point about leadership. It's total nonsense when certain groups claim they raped a leader of the Crips, but it’s also not true to say "leaders didn't exist back then." I mean, they existed in the exact same way they do today. We really need to define what a "leader" actually is first. In our scene, it's not that leaders didn't exist back then; it's just that we've never had leaders in the way, say, Mexicans view them. Especially those guys over there—it's like North Korea, man. Total military style. If a commander tells them to jump, they ask how high. But if you define a leader as the guys who are always there, the ones doing like 80% of the work for the stands (and the streets), then yeah, leaders definitely existed back then. That late guy from the parade certainly wasn't a leader, though people from that era say he was a regular fixture.

PS. Really great message today, a super classy way to pass the ball. 🙂
Jeremy Mitchell11 Jeremy Mitchell11 Member
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#1740 ·
cosmictinker46 said:Awesome!😁 Man, that’s been a thing for ages... I mean, let's be real, everyone carries around a smartphone with a high-def camera these days. It makes you wonder, right? Are they constantly recording us? And honestly, if they are, maybe we should just start filming them right back! I guess it's kind of a standoff, isn't it? Maybe.

They’re totally blind to us right now... I mean, they’re basically just flashing lights in our direction without actually seeing what's going on.
But then again, everything just went dead silent all of a sudden, probably because the music cut out mid-beat.
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