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Kimberly Robinson17 Kimberly Robinson17 Member
40 messages
joined Sep 2011
#281 ·
Jose Kern11 said:I need someone to give me a logical reason why four flares are being thrown onto the pitch when the club is practically on the verge of bankruptcy. When our CEO has to beg big banks just to get a line of credit? It’s because some guy told us we were the "good guys," so now we write messages and throw flares. Who are we trying to impress? Hhou or the Boys? We’re becoming insecure, acting just like the Boys. Today was a massive disgrace for the Chicago Blackhawks fans—that message and those flares on the field. If we're such tough hooligans, go throw a flare at the owner's face or into his house instead of throwing it into the club's budget.

You need real guts to say this, and those kids throwing stuff definitely don't have any.☕
Benjamin Cruz29 Benjamin Cruz29 Active Member
118 messages
joined Sep 2011
#282 ·
uuuuu, a few flares just went off in the stands, uuuuuuuu... what a complete disaster. I mean, seriously, it’s like they actually think they know what they're doing here
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2013
#283 ·
I think it's stupid how much weight you guys are giving to Velcro, that massive pile of crap the USSF is bankrolling. But the flares? Total respect there... 🙏

I don't get how this flies with you people, honestly. Back home, the crackdown is straight-up Nazi Germany levels of repression.
ironcobra39 ironcobra39 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Aug 2012
#284 ·
Jesse Campbell said:repression just like in Nazi Germany.

The irony in this post... 🤣
swiftwolf70 swiftwolf70 Member
12 messages
joined Sep 2011
#285 ·
First off, please don't delete this post—I’m really not looking to start any unnecessary fights here...

But seriously, based on what we saw yesterday, some guys seem to want to travel ten years back in time. They think instead of having 4,000 or 5,000 of us showing up at the North Stand, we should just have 500 people hiding their faces, throwing flares onto the pitch, and getting into scraps with the cops...
They basically want to go back to the days when people would cheer for maybe five minutes after kickoff, and even then, it was just a handful of guys. They want to bring back the banners and chains on the fences, spend the whole hour before the game singing, get aggressive, and take down anyone who isn't actively cheering. They want to kick every kid under 18 out of the stands because apparently, we don't want them in the photos (we don't want to look like hooligans for the media...), and they even want to push every woman out of the North section entirely (since the Zenith fans are our supposed role models).
What good is having local chapters when we are the Red Army of Miami? We need to be the craziest group in the universe. What's the point of all that organized chanting from the East Side when most of those people are just there for show? What are we supposed to do, run humanitarian drives? We aren't some damn charity organization. And what's the deal with making statements to the press? We should just shut the reporters down immediately. The Naples fans don't even have a website (we should just cut their internet access right away). We should be teaching our kids that being first matters, and we should be singing against Grig. Honestly, it’s just gambling, partying, and fighting over drugs—not even worth mentioning.
Let's just go ahead and ruin everything then, and try to be the wildest group on the planet and beyond, because the way things are going now is just wrong.🙂

I have so much more I could say, but I honestly don't have the energy left because last night was an absolute rock bottom...

Now you see what money, envy, and jealousy can do to people, right? 🙂 😢
wearywolf57 wearywolf57 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Aug 2012
#286 ·
I suspect everyone has completely lost the plot here. You’re all overreacting, both regarding the flares and the message from the FBI—which, frankly, was sent for good reason. If we were ranking messages based on how much they actually mattered, we’ve seen far more ridiculous and irrelevant things pass before, yet nobody made a fuss until now. At the end of the day, the guys need patience and a little empathy, not this kind of mindless scrutiny from people who should be standing by them and offering support. Besides, are we really going to act like fools and judge everything based on a single game played without a leader?
Charles Torres12 Charles Torres12 Member
30 messages
joined Sep 2011
#287 ·
wearywolf57 said:I honestly feel like everyone is totally missing the point here. People are blowing things way out of proportion—both regarding those flares being set off and the message the FBI sent, which, if you ask me, was perfectly justified. If we were making a leaderboard of "most controversial messages," this wouldn't even be near the top; there have been much more ridiculous things said before that nobody even blinked at. At the end of the day, the guys on the field need some breathing room and actual understanding, not a bunch of idiots judging them when they should be offering support. Besides, are we really going to act like total morons and pass judgment based on a single game, especially the very first one without our usual leadership in place?

I think you might be overshooting the mark just a little bit... the FBI stuff and a few flares are the least of our concerns. It might not be the biggest deal on the internet right now, but let's be real—everyone's going to know what happened within a couple of days anyway... 🙂
wearywolf57 wearywolf57 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Aug 2012
#288 ·
Charles Torres12 said:I think you might be overshooting a bit here... the FBI involvement and a few flares aren't everything. It doesn't make for great internet drama, but honestly, we'll all know what really happened within a few days anyway... 🙂

The guy is clearly disgusted by that message sent to the FBI—which was just a circus act that had to happen sooner or later. He’s taking it so far that he's labeling us as overly sensitive, comparing us to those hooligan groups based on what he considers one pathetic little message. Isn't that a massive stretch? Fine.
goldensurfer7 goldensurfer7 Member
15 messages
joined Jun 2012
#289 ·
Jesse Campbell said:I think it's pretty stupid how much importance you guys put on Velcro—that fat bag of trash the USSF pays for—but honestly, props for the flares... 🙏

I don't get how this passes for you guys, seriously. Back home, the crackdown feels more like Nazi Germany.


Anyway, my girl was at the precinct all night. She ended up getting released with a ban and a few thousand bucks in fines!
☕☕
Nazi Germany
Charles Torres12 Charles Torres12 Member
30 messages
joined Sep 2011
#290 ·
wearywolf57 said:The guy is absolutely losing his mind over this message sent to the FBI, which—let’s be honest—was a total circus act that was bound to go south sooner or later. And he’s actually taking it a step further by labeling us all as "overthinkers," much like those hooligan groups, just because of what he considers one pathetic little note? Isn't that a bit of an overreach? Just my two cents.

Look, if you ask me, that message was nothing short of a spectacular disaster—a complete firework show of idiocy. You can say whatever you want, really, but I just want to point out that the actual content of the message isn't even our biggest headache right now...
Charles Torres12 Charles Torres12 Member
30 messages
joined Sep 2011
#291 ·
against the ultras said:What’s even the point of us cheering when the majority over there is already pro-Palestine?

I have so much more I could say about this, but frankly, I’m exhausted. Last night was an absolute rock bottom for us...

Regarding the first part 🙂🙂🙂

As for the second part🙏🙏🙏

He was being sarcastic about the first thing... if you didn't catch that.
wearywolf57 wearywolf57 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Aug 2012
#292 ·
Charles Torres12 said:Look, to me, that message was pure magic, and those flares? Absolutely legendary. You can say whatever you want, but I’m telling you, the message itself isn't even our biggest issue right now.

Let's be clear on one thing. It's perfectly natural that things will get a little bumpy and negative for a while. But once the dust settles and the situation becomes clear...
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2013
#293 ·
goldensurfer7 said:Basically, she spent the whole night at the precinct and walked out with a ban and a few thousand bucks in fines!
☕☕
Nazi Germany

Well, props to the girl then.🙏
Jose Kern11 Jose Kern11 Active Member
123 messages
joined Feb 2012
#294 ·
wearywolf57 said:The guy is absolutely losing it over this message from the Democratic Party, which was basically a circus act waiting to happen sooner or later. And isn't he taking it a bit too far by calling us all overly sensitive, just like the Bad News crew, based on what he thinks is one pathetic little note? Isn't that a bit much? Well...

I mean, seriously, how am I supposed to not be disgusted? Are we even here to support the team, or have we become our own worst enemy, acting just like those Bad News types?
Personally, I’ll admit I’ve tossed a flare onto the field at least ten times in my life—and I did it on purpose because that was just how things were done back then! But most of that happened during the old glory days, long before this era of mediocre amateurs took over. Back then, we actually fought against the people ruining the club, and if you look at where we are now, it's clear they almost destroyed everything.
But throwing a flare now, when we're staring down bankruptcy and the literal threat of the club folding, is pure insanity, isn't it? And all of this is happening just to please some corporate suit. For the first time in my life, I actually find myself agreeing with someone I usually disagree with, because even the Black Knights are prioritizing some bloated executive over our own interests. Instead of going after the corrupt management and the league officials every single game, we've somehow decided to play nice for the sake of the higher-ups. To me, that feels like an even bigger disgrace than when the club's ownership was swapped out for that Inter Miami group.

By the way, the cheering yesterday was just plain depressing. When it really mattered and we needed to push those kids through the final 20 minutes—since they were falling apart like house of cards—there were maybe 13 people left standing in the stands. But I guess it makes sense, doesn't it, since it's been ages since anyone could cheer without needing some authority figure to give them permission.
coastalangler16 coastalangler16 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Apr 2010
#295 ·
Yeah, those three eventually cornered her—just in case they had to take down two of them, there was a third standing by ☕—and drove her away... I'm sure we can all guess how this story ends...
swifteagle46 swifteagle46 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Aug 2012
#296 ·
Seriously, are you guys all losing your minds, or what? What is even the point here? Are we really going to start airing our dirty laundry on public forums and calling each other out over internal group drama? You’ve got one crowd of losers who want to drag everything back to how things were ten years ago, and then you’ve got the "pretty boys" who are too soft to even step up against the cops... so where does that actually get us?! If there are issues that need addressing, they should be handled privately between the crews and the people involved. I don't see why we need to broadcast this nonsense online and crank up unnecessary tensions like this. Just act like adults, for once... at least to some degree...
P.s. I'm not planning on getting dragged into this debate any further. Peace.
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2013
#297 ·
Jose Kern11 said:Tell me how I'm not supposed to be pissed. Are we even here for the Dodgers, or are we just doing this for our own egos like the Bad News??

Honestly, I think it's the exact opposite. You guys are just self-serving. "Oh my god, help us," while the club goes down the drain and they try to scare you with stories about bankruptcy if anyone lights a flare in the stands. Give me a break...

The Bad News were fighting for the club back in the 90s, and all that pressure from the authorities is what actually turned them into a real ultra group. You guys haven't even reached that level of mindset yet, even if you look the part in photos...

PHOTOS AREN'T EVERYTHING
Jose Kern11 Jose Kern11 Active Member
123 messages
joined Feb 2012
#298 ·
So, we’re basically watching this desperate attempt to save the club at the absolute last second by dragging them along with a rope shaped like our mascot while the Board of Directors just plays games for their own sake? I mean, seriously, how can you guys claim to be the most hardcore supporter group out there if you can't even call out one complete idiot? It's honestly hilarious...
And look, when it comes to Blento, this isn't about throwing a few flares; it's about basic principles. If we were the ones who voted in people like Branka Ramljak and Ljubo Pavasovic—who basically spend every single day neglecting their actual jobs—and then we decide to throw flares onto the field, isn't that just a direct way of slapping them in the face?
mistypanther20 mistypanther20 Member
27 messages
joined Sep 2011
#299 ·
Jesse Campbell said:I actually think it's the complete opposite. You guys exist just to serve yourselves. It’s all "oh my god, this is crazy," while the club falls apart and they try to scare you with these little lines about bankruptcy if anyone even thinks about lighting a flare in the stands. Give me a break...

The Bad News have been fighting for this club since the 90s, and honestly, it was that heavy-handed crackdown from the league that turned them into a real ultra group. Mentally, you guys aren't there yet, even if you look the part in photos...

FORGET THE PHOTOS FROM '86


A huge ultra group? Please. Every single one of you would fold into a line for a grocery store at the first sign of trouble. Stop talking nonsense.

As for the rest of you, quit the whining and the typing. Go cool off. Everything will settle in time.
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2013
#300 ·
Jose Kern11 said:so basically saving the club at the literal last second by dragging some guy along with the Board of Directors is just an end in itself? and you guys can't even deal with one idiot? and you're supposed to be the toughest ultra group out there lol..
and Blento isn't about some flares, it's about principle. if we picked people like Branka Ramljak and Ljubo Pavasovic—who spend all day screwing around and neglecting their jobs—and then we toss flares onto the pitch, that's a direct slap in the face to them.

You fucking saved him. Just enough so he can fight for third place behind the first and second teams of the Los Angeles Dodgers... assuming the Cleveland Guardians don't go bankrupt first...

If you don't get where we're at—you, us, and the whole state of American soccer—then I can't help you, kid. Worrying about a few flares on the field while trying to comfort buddies on the Board of Directors is like having a heart attack and worrying because you chipped a toenail... It's beneath an ultra group. Get it?

There are a few people in the Black Knights who actually get it, but clearly, nobody's listening to them...

Later. 🙂

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