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Kate Foster17 Kate Foster17 Newcomer
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#41 ·
Carol Lopez67 said:Kate Foster17 was out there screaming at Joel Abrahamson, the fans, and Stimac—shouting insults while nobody even laid a finger on Suker.

Thanks for the reply. I agree with you on the disrespect part. We all know the top brass at the US Soccer Federation is just a mafia nest—it’s those four musketeers: Mamic, Vrbanovic, Stimac, and Suker. I wasn't sure about what happened on TV, but you confirmed it: they didn't touch Suker at all.🤷🤷
Carol Lopez67 Carol Lopez67 Newcomer
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#42 ·
Look, this idiot Grgic pulls in like $8k a month, so do the math. Some Unknown guy showed up at the Kansas City Chiefs when they had 50 players on the roster, and he basically performed a massive purge down to 25 guys. He cleared out the dead weight and saved the club from paying 25 useless salaries. That move actually paid off after 15 years because we finally made it into the tournament. What else were you guys gonna do, just go play in some random European league? This guy came into the Chiefs with a massive deficit, so yeah, things are rough right now. He’s got maybe two or three high-priced stars, while other players were out wandering around Marjan because they couldn't stomach the pay cuts the previous management tried to force on them.
As for Joel Abrahamson, I am one hundred percent certain he doesn't want to see the Chiefs suffer, nor is he trying to line his own pockets. He hired some of his people who he thinks are solid choices, but most of the staff have zero connection to him. And what do you think would happen if instead of those few Abrahamson guys, we brought in a bunch of strangers who don't even know him? The Chiefs wouldn't be in this crisis today. And you're writing a pile of garbage claiming Abrahamson shows up drunk??? How many people get buzzed and show up to games? Since when is that a disgrace? Then you write about how he took 50 cards—I don't even know if that's true—but just stand in front of the North Stand and look at how many of the local fans there are... then he gets into a scrap with a fan. Did you even see what that fan did? The guy starts trouble right in front of everyone on the West Side, and when he responds, suddenly *he's* the bad guy. So according to you, the Black Knights who start the fight aren't guilty, but the guy who reacts is? You are a total moron.
Jacob Palmer77 Jacob Palmer77 Active Member
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#43 ·
Carol Lopez67 said:Look, Grgic pulls in about $10k a month, so just do the math. He came into the Kansas City Chiefs when they had 50 players on the roster, and he basically purged the squad down to 25. That freed up enough cash to stop paying those extra 25 guys. And look at the results—after 15 years, they actually made it into the group stages. What do you think would have happened if you guys were running things? You'd probably be playing in some random local tournament instead of competing in Europe. He took over the Chiefs with a massive deficit, so yeah, it’s obviously going to be an uphill battle. He kept two or three high-priced stars, while other guys were out wandering around the park because they wouldn't accept the pay cuts the previous management tried to force on them.
I'm telling you, I am one hundred percent certain that Joel Abrahamson doesn't want anything bad for the Chiefs and isn't trying to exploit them. He hired people he thinks are solid choices, and most of them are just regular employees who don't even have any connection to him. Honestly, what do you think would happen if we had some random strangers stepping in instead of Abrahamson's crew? The team would be in a total crisis right now. And you're writing a bunch of nonsense about Abrahamson being drunk??? Man, how many people get a little buzzed before heading to a game? Is that supposed to be a scandal? Then you claim he took off with 50 grand (not even sure if that's accurate), but seriously, just go stand in front of the North Stand and look at how many Black Knights there are... then watch a scuffle break out with a fan. Did you even see what that fan did? He starts trouble right in front of everyone in the West Section, and when the guy responds, suddenly *he's* the one at fault. It's like the Black Knights start the fight, but the guy who defends himself is the criminal. You're acting like a total amateur.

Unknown, are you actually delusional? Go babysit a kid or something, get away from the computer and the forums!
Kate Ward50 Kate Ward50 Member
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#44 ·
Carol Lopez67 said:Look, the guy brought in about $15,000 a month—do the math—and when he first arrived at the Kansas City Chiefs, the roster was bloated with 50 players. He basically purged the squad down to 25, which relieved the club from paying those extra salaries. That move eventually led to making it into the group stages after 15 years. What would you all have done? Just played in the Champions League? He took over the Chiefs while they were deep in the red, and obviously, things are still rough. He kept two or three high-priced players, while others were just wandering around the park because they refused the pay cuts offered by the previous administration.
Regarding Joel Abrahamson—I am one hundred percent certain he doesn't want to see the Chiefs suffer, nor is he looking for a quick profit. He hired people he believes are solid choices, most of whom aren't even connected to him personally. Do you honestly think if we had replaced his team with some strangers who didn't know him, the Chiefs wouldn't be in this crisis right now? And you're writing a bunch of nonsense about Abrahamson being drunk?? How many people get a little tipsy before a game? Is that really such a scandal? You also claim he took fifty cards—I don't even know if that's true—but just stand in front of the North Stand and look at how many supporters there are... then he gets into an argument with a fan. Did you actually see what that fan did? The guy starts trouble right in front of everyone in the West Section, and when he responds, he's the one who ends up looking guilty. It means the Black Knights supporter who starts it isn't blamed, but the one who reacts is. You’re being a total Neanderthal.

Man, I can't stand it when you start acting like a complete idiot just to get a rise out of me!
George Sanchez76 George Sanchez76 Member
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#45 ·
Eric Smith12 said:I don't have a clue... yeah, right, everyone just keeps getting more successful!!!🙂 Cut the crap. In ten days, there will be a war in the news and it'll go on forever. That’s just how it works because everyone wants a better Kansas City Chiefs, and they can deal with it. Everyone has pros and cons. That goes for both Joel Abrahamson and the Unknown crowd. Even if people are biting them now while others haven't even noticed yet. And there’s truth in that post. You have to be realistic.👍

Clearly you don't get it. Read the whole paragraph I wrote instead of pulling things out of context. If it still doesn't make sense, hit me up in a DM.
George Sanchez76 George Sanchez76 Member
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#46 ·
Carol Lopez67 said:Nancy Fisher4 earns 15k a month, so do the math,
Remember the "liquidation" fiasco.
Unknown joined the Kansas City Chiefs with a massive deficit, and naturally, they'll end up the same way,
That might be normal to you, but it isn't to me. Then again, looking at the state of this entire country, you aren't far off.
And you're writing a pile of nonsense about Joel Abrahamson being drunk??? How many people drink and then show up to games? Is that supposed to be shameful?
Of course it isn't shameful. But if fans get banned because they hit 0.58 blood alcohol content, then I expect the law to apply equally to everyone—including the mayor!
...,just look past the North Stand and see how many agitators there are...
I agree with you there. But those are kids. Whether you give them money or not, I don't see the issue. I won't give them a dime, and that's the end of it.
He got into a fight with a fan, but did you see what that fan was doing? He provoked him in front of everyone in the West Stand and when he responds, he's the one at fault. So the Black Knights who start it aren't guilty, but the guy who reacts is. You're a real idiot.


Do you even attend games? If I get into a fight, I'm a hooligan, scum, a junkie; I face the police station, the courts, and a ban. Meanwhile, this coward acts like a knight defending honor. That's the problem. Furthermore, given his office, he should be able to handle that kind of thing.
And frankly, I don't care what mess he made of the city since I don't live there, so I have no desire to discuss it, nor do I have the right. My concern is exclusively the Kansas City Chiefs, which makes me less biased than you.
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#47 ·
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObOu2n8ER9E 😁
Lawrence Kern60 Lawrence Kern60 Member
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#48 ·
UltraZagreb;40502696 said:http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...68788445_n.jpg

I mean, honestly... why didn't someone just take them out with spears? It's like they're just playing part-time cowboys... doing it only when the season calls for it.
wearyraven25 wearyraven25 Newcomer
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#49 ·
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cosmicdrifter44 cosmicdrifter44 Newcomer
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#50 ·
What exactly is the Democratic Party doing acting like they’re on UEFA's payroll lately? Seriously—what is their actual angle here, and what on earth are they even trying to pull now??
Michael Doyle72 Michael Doyle72 Member
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#51 ·
Let them follow us if they want; they have less actual authority than a secretary at some failing mid-sized firm in Ohio.
Melissa Reyes45 Melissa Reyes45 Member
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#52 ·
wearyraven25 said:http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-c5KkfyUqAC...20/2r3koj9.jpg

They’re going to get absolutely screwed—all because of our own frustrations—sort of like what happened with the Armada. 😍
coastalheron12 coastalheron12 Active Member
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#53 ·
boldhound8 said:You forgot to mention that the local tycoon was part of the NFL Ultras way before they even officially formed!

Željko 1960!

Man, I also totally blanked on how much of a bonus that local politician gave himself... you really can't blame the guy for being greedy, I guess.🤷
silverbear38 silverbear38 Newcomer
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#54 ·
cosmicdrifter44 said:What is this political party doing acting like they’re on the payroll for UEFA? Who even are these people now, and what on earth are they actually aiming for??

Did they even bother to speak up after the incident in that Slovak city? After those cocktail attacks in Greece? After all that chaos during the Euro in Mexico? Or after the 1.5 debacle? After every single bit of pressure these fans have had to endure? 🤷

Why should anyone give a damn about a small group of communists and nationalists who don't even have a vote and couldn't care less about what the leaders are doing? 🤷
wearyraven25 wearyraven25 Newcomer
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#55 ·
Melissa Reyes45 said:The poor guy is going to get absolutely wrecked because of all our collective frustrations, kind of like how the Armada situation went down... 😍

Haha, I already saw this somewhere earlier today, pretty sure it was on Facebook 😉
Peter Barrett Peter Barrett Newcomer
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#56 ·
wearyraven25 said:Funny, I think I already saw this somewhere on Facebook today. 😉

If people are going to start fishing for info, why not just say what it's actually about? Or maybe just send a DM.
John Brown30 John Brown30 Regular
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#57 ·
Carol Lopez67 said:Kate Foster17 was chanting against the local tycoon, the fans, and the coach—while alongside other songs they were yelling "screw you" at the sports mogul, yet nothing was ever directed at the owner.

Looking back at the past and that local politician's time with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers—the guy worked for free, and his only real payday was taking a bonus after winning the Cup. Who knows how much cash actually moved? He brought in reinforcements, a new coach, various signings, and some total flops too. His only real mistake was handing out high salaries that the team couldn't actually afford, but hey, we finally made it into the group stage after 15 years. And for everything he did for the NFL Ultras, this is what he gets? Being called a donut-throwing mafia thief just because he has an education? You make up these ridiculous stories about school, mocking him while praising the old-school Ultras who were basically uneducated thugs stealing things all over town. You mock him just to mock him, using his degree as an excuse, even though plenty of other guys in charge have degrees too.

Now, regarding yesterday’s chants—the coach deserves that kind of heat and those insults, everyone knows why. But I can't wrap my head around why people are screaming at the local tycoon and his pregnant wife. The fans don't give a damn about anyone; they just want to tear him down. But that man gave everything to the Ultras. He respected the code, he allowed the oversight board to exist, and he even let a member of the Ultras sit on that board. Of course, they turned it down because if the Buccaneers keep failing, there's no point in having a seat where you can't criticize the management without it looking like you're just attacking yourself. Instead, people just fight and smear. Because of that specific board setup, the current leadership took over, and the team is arguably worse now. Don't get me wrong, the coach is doing his best, but in modern football, you can't do anything without serious capital. After that, they picked a guy the tycoon thinks isn't quite right because certain interests want to install their own man to take over the club. So, is the tycoon right or not? He isn't trying to do harm or exploit the team; he genuinely believes he's doing good. If you think he's making mistakes, shouldn't you talk to him instead of being so disgusting? This man bought 5 million in shares. There's even talk of him lending the club 7.2 million just so they can stay in the league. Not to mention how many people he's helped out with jobs or financial aid.

So, you act like big shots while mocking people, but really, you're at the bottom. You manipulate kids who just chant whatever their leader tells them. I personally asked them why they mock the politician, and they all said the same thing: "What does that fool know without a college degree?" But when I ask them what he actually did wrong at the Buccaneers, they have no answer. The same goes for the tycoon.It's interesting how you mock people who actually succeeded in life—achieving the very things you claim to want.But you'll never get there. All you have left is to vent your frustrations by mocking others. That's your five minutes of glory, followed by five minutes of shame.

🙂

Just because of this guy, you'd probably list every single one of his sins on a checklist.😲
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BIG PICTURE; YOU CAN'T.☕
Morgan Sanchez64 Morgan Sanchez64 Active Member
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#58 ·
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxAOM...layer_embedded

Just taking a moment to listen to what the business executive has to say...
John Brown30 John Brown30 Regular
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#59 ·
Eric Bishop5 said:What goes around comes around.

BANKRUPTCY 1950

🙂🙂🙂

1950 - year the NFL Ultras were founded
1911 - year the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were founded

-The papers are talking about the Buccaneers going broke, not the NFL Ultras. If you're going to spread stories you read in the news, maybe try being smarter than the reporters. Check two basic facts first, or is remembering two numbers too much work?🤷

If it is, then my bad.😲
Carol Lopez67 Carol Lopez67 Newcomer
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#60 ·
Morgan Sanchez64 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxAOM...layer_embedded

Just listen to what that business executive is saying for once...

Honestly, this whole thing is just a massive whining session. It’s so obvious these guys have zero clue how to run a club. Not a single sponsor brought in all year, hasn't sold a single player, and instead, they have the nerve to send letters to the banks or City Hall begging for $10 million? Most of that would just vanish into old debts, plus you've got monthly overhead eating them alive. Of course they got rejected—they can't pay it back! What can they actually sell? Maybe Vukusic for maybe $3 million? They're gonna get crushed by Inter, and they'll be trash in the league because they're broke, which we saw yesterday (aside from Chaktaş and Vukusic). As time goes on, the crowds are gonna dry up too. Only the die-hards who already paid for season tickets will show up, and that cash is already spent. So, for the rest of the season, there's no income left, just player salaries and utility bills piling up... where are they gonna get the money to settle the loans? And seriously, who the hell is even giving them that kind of money anyway?

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