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cosmiclynx7 cosmiclynx7 Member
25 messages
joined Feb 2012
#61 ·
Carol Lopez67 said:Kate Foster17 was out there protesting against that local tycoon, you know? The fans and even the coach were all over it—chanting along with those other songs and shouting stuff about that sports mogul, while Sukera didn't get a single word thrown his way. I guess things just went that way, maybe.

Looking back at how things used to be with that local politician running the Tampa Bay Buccaneers... man, I don't know. He was basically working for free most of the time, and the only real cash he saw was that bonus after winning the cup, which wasn't even that much. He brought in reinforcements, hired coaches like Poklepovic or Sharbinije—though yeah, some signings like Cernat were total flops. If I had to point out his biggest mistake, it was probably overpaying players relative to what the Bucs could actually afford. But hey, we finally made it into the group stages after fifteen years, right? And now, for everything he did for the NFL Ultras, this is what he gets? Just a bunch of people calling him names, acting like some mobster or a kid who needs a special education program just because he throws donuts at the field. It’s all nonsense. You guys make up these stupid stories about his schooling and mock him for it, yet you turn around and praise those old-school NFL Ultras like they were legends, even though they were just guys doing drugs and stealing stuff all over town. Honestly, it feels like you're just mocking him because he doesn't have a college degree. I mean, I think Grgic has one too, and Males does as well, so I guess that's just how it goes.

So, about those shouts from last night... I mean, Stimac definitely deserves the heat and all that mud being thrown his way—we all know why—but I just can't wrap my head around people screaming insults at a local tycoon and his pregnant wife. Like, seriously? All us fans couldn't care less about that. And honestly, someone should just take him out, because this guy is the one who actually gives everything to the NFL Ultras. The whole thing is about the code of conduct, I guess. It’s supposed to be the oversight board's job, which even allows for a member of the NFL Ultras to sit on that board. Of course, they turned that down, probably because the Tampa Bay Buccaneers still aren't winning anything anyway, so there's no point in mocking the management if you're basically mocking yourselves. This way, they can just keep fighting, bickering, and dragging each other through the dirt... Then, following that whole oversight board situation, Males gets into power, and the team just seems to get worse than before. I don't want to blame him, really—give him credit for how he handles the refs—but in today's version of pro football, you just can't do anything without serious cash. After that, they pick Brzbic, whom the local tycoon thinks is part of a shady setup. He feels like things aren't totally above board because Andabak wants to plant his own guy to take over the club. So, I don't know, is the tycoon right or not? I truly think he isn't trying to do anything bad or just line his own pockets; he genuinely believes he's doing the right thing for the team. If people think he's messing up, they should probably just sit down and have a real conversation with him instead of being so nasty and making those disgusting comments. This guy bought 5 million bucks worth of shares. There was even talk about him lending the team another 7.2 million just so they could actually compete and stay in the league. Not to mention how many people he's helped out personally with jobs and financial support... it's a lot, I guess.

So, people like to talk trash when you've got a bit of status, I guess. But honestly? For a lot of you, you're just hitting rock bottom. You add a few players to the roster and suddenly you think you can just manipulate kids who are out there grabbing a beer and living their lives... maybe. It’s just sad, really. leader So, I actually went out and asked a bunch of people why they feel the need to mock those local politicians, you know? And honestly, everyone pretty much said the same thing—like, what’s the point of picking on someone just because they didn't go the traditional academic route? It's kind of silly if you think about it. Then I tried asking them what exactly is wrong with how things are being run at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and... well, they didn't really have an answer. Nothing at all. And I guess that goes for that one local tycoon, too. I don't get it, really. Why spend your time making fun of people who actually made something of themselves? Like, if those are the kinds of goals you have for your own life, they've already hit them, and maybe you won't ever quite get there. I suppose it's just easier to vent all that frustration by mocking others. It feels like you're just trading five minutes of feeling superior for five minutes of pure embarrassment. Just my two cents, I guess.

I mean, can we really say the same thing about that sports mogul? He brought in a massive wave of players to Real Madrid, they’ve been sitting at the top of the MLS for six years straight now, and they even managed to get into the political party... so because of all that, should the BBB organization be honoring him? I don't think so. Not really.
It’s really the same old story with that local tycoon and that local politician... they both just wanted to grab the club by the throat and call it their own. They want to be the only ones running the show, you know? But the thing is, they don't have any real connection to the game at all. It's like they're just playing pretend with something they don't even understand. I guess it happens more often than you'd think.
To all the fans out there... I mean, we’re allowed to say it, right? She's just a total piece of work. Honestly, she completely tore a whole family apart. And then, you know, getting involved with that old guy? It probably wasn't even about romance—just typical, chasing the money, I guess. Just seems like the same old story. I don't know, maybe I'm just overthinking things, but... gold digger. It’s such a heavy label, isn't it? I guess people throw that around whenever they see someone moving up in the world through a relationship, but honestly, it feels like such a simplified way to look at how people connect. Life is messy, I suppose. People fall in love, they find stability, they build lives together—it isn't always some calculated move for a paycheck, even if that's what it looks like from the outside. I mean, who am I to judge? Maybe it is what it is. Just a thought.
I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm just dreaming here, but I’d honestly rather see us sitting in the second division with the fans actually running the show... you know, having real skin in the game. It beats having these stuck-up snobs in charge who can't even get their own lives together, let alone manage something way bigger than themselves. Just a thought, I guess.
By the way, a leader? Since when do NFL Ultras even have a leader?
Cheers
p.s. Does anyone happen to know what logo is on that "Get It, Guys" banner?
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...14498703_n.jpg
Tyler Thomas15 Tyler Thomas15 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2009
#62 ·
Carol Lopez67 said:Honestly, this whole thing is just endless whining from people who clearly can't run a club. They haven't landed a single sponsor all year, they haven't sold anyone, and instead, they just send letters to the bank or the city begging for $10 million. Most of that would just vanish into existing debt, plus you have monthly overhead eating away at everything. Naturally, they get rejected because there’s no way to pay it back—unless they sell Vukusic for maybe $3 million. Now they're worried about facing Inter, and they'll struggle in the league because they're financially crippled, which we saw yesterday (well, except for Chaketas and Vukusic). As time goes on, attendance will drop; eventually, it'll just be the die-hards who already paid for season tickets, and that cash is already spent. So, for the rest of the season, there's zero incoming revenue, just expenses for wages, utilities... how are they supposed to repay the loan? And where is that money even coming from in the first place?


NFL Ultras membership - renewed.

NH membership - renewed.

Annual subscription - renewed.

God damn you, you absolute moron.

Here are the coordinates if you want to show up, you idiot—Entrance I, Row 21, Seat 18.

I'll be waiting.
Tyler Thomas15 Tyler Thomas15 Newcomer
1 message
joined Feb 2009
#63 ·
Morgan Sanchez64 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxAOM...layer_embedded

Just take a moment to listen to what this business executive has to say...

Thank God we actually have people like this around. My hat's off to the gentleman. Honestly, it would have been an honor just to be a small part of that whole story.
Eric Smith12 Eric Smith12 Member
16 messages
joined Jul 2012
#64 ·
Ethan Rodriguez6;40506493 said:honestly, this is just a bunch of whining and complaining from people who clearly can't run a club. They haven't brought in a single sponsor all year, they haven't sold any players, and instead, they're busy sending letters to the bank or the city begging for $10 million—money that’ll mostly go toward old debts while monthly expenses keep climbing. Of course, they got rejected because there's no way they can pay it back. All they have is one player they might sell for maybe $3 million. Now they're going to miss out on the Inter deal, and they'll be terrible in the MLS because they're broke, which we saw yesterday (except for a couple of guys). As time goes on, attendance will drop; only the die-hards who already paid for season tickets will show up, and that money is already spent. So, for the rest of the season, there's zero revenue, just bills for salaries and utilities... where are they going to get the cash to pay off the loan? And where did they even get that money in the first place?[/QUO
I wish you were wrong.. but this is the reality we're stuck with!! And why on earth is he getting banned??? 😕 Ban me too.. I actually agree with him, but I'm still pinning my hopes on these young kids playing!! They're our only shot at survival..
Tyler Thomas15 Tyler Thomas15 Newcomer
1 message
joined Feb 2009
#65 ·
NFL Ultras are the gold standard.

As for why they hold all the cards—check the morning papers tomorrow.

PS. For those who aren't up to speed: we're looking at a suspension of the opening round of the MLS season, which includes playing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers game behind closed doors without any fans in the stands.
Kate Foster17 Kate Foster17 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jul 2013
#66 ·
Yeah, I guess there are days when I question the whole concept of free speech.

That guy got banned just for stating his opinion without being judgmental.

He got banned because twenty different losers who think they own this forum—the biggest bullies in the galaxy, people who pick fights with old men over sneakers or a beer in real life—decided to jump him.

The guy got banned for actually trying to explain things rationally and sharing a perspective. It doesn't even have to be right, but instead, he's being challenged to a physical fight just for speaking up.🙂🙂

So go ahead, tell me what you think...
Mark Carter10 Mark Carter10 Active Member
60 messages
joined Sep 2011
#67 ·
cosmiclynx7 said:p.s. does anyone recognize the logo on that "Move Forward, Our People" banner?
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...14498703_n.jpg

angry face 🙂
mistypanther20 mistypanther20 Member
27 messages
joined Sep 2011
#68 ·
Why bother arguing with that local tycoon's idiots? They wouldn't understand if it hit them in the face anyway.
cosmiclynx7 cosmiclynx7 Member
25 messages
joined Feb 2012
#69 ·
Mark Carter10 said:angry face 🙂

Do you think you could drop a link or something?
I just can't find it anywhere 😢
wearyraven25 wearyraven25 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2022
#70 ·
Peter Barrett said:if people are gonna start throwing hooks out there, why not just be upfront about what we're actually talking about? you could even just send a private message...

Internal 🙂
feralwolf16 feralwolf16 Active Member
86 messages
joined Sep 2011
#71 ·
Melissa Reyes45 said:The poor bastards are gonna get absolutely wrecked because of all our collective frustration, kind of like how the Armada went down😍

😁😁😁....hehehe, man...what else do you think those pathetic little rookies are even gonna have left to pay with?😍
shadowpanther9 shadowpanther9 Member
17 messages
joined Sep 2011
#72 ·
feralwolf16 said:😁😁😁....not quite, man...what exactly are those poor little infantrymen supposed to pay for next? 😍

just one of Milan's cultural landmarks🤣🤣
feralwolf16 feralwolf16 Active Member
86 messages
joined Sep 2011
#73 ·
shadowpanther9 said:man, forget about those fancy cultural landmarks in NYC 🤣🤣

whatever, at least there’ll be plenty of footage for YouTube... you know, the whole NFL Ultras scene and all that chaos...
Samuel Brown72 Samuel Brown72 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Mar 2013
#74 ·
I was wondering, is there maybe a Torcida or Hajduk Split shop over in Water?
feralwolf16 feralwolf16 Active Member
86 messages
joined Sep 2011
#75 ·
Samuel Brown72 said:Is there maybe a Torcida or a Hajduk Split shop over in Water?

Man, where else would you find the best parties and the good wine if not at a spot packed with Torcida gear?...
Carol Jones77 Carol Jones77 Newcomer
1 message
joined Dec 2022
#76 ·
shadowpanther9 said:and Milan's cultural landmarks 🤣🤣

What kind of nonsense is this, are we just going to erase them all?
rustyangler122 rustyangler122 Active Member
213 messages
joined Feb 2012
#77 ·
Mark Carter10 said:😡 🙂

...total garbage!
...absolute trash!
vividbadger182 vividbadger182 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Jan 2008
#78 ·
Carol Lopez67 said:People were chanting against Željko Kerum, the fans, and Igor Štimac—alongside other songs where they were shouting "screw you, Mamić."

Igor Štimac and Željko Kerum can go straight to hell.
Željko Kerum
clearly missed the messages from the NFL Ultras when they kicked off the game, and he didn't hang around the VIP lounge for very long either. It was impossible to ignore the chants of "Kerum, Turk, go screw yourself." The insults were also aimed directly at Igor Štimac, while Zdravko Mamić received his own share of the abuse.
BuzzFeed
Melissa Reyes45 Melissa Reyes45 Member
46 messages
joined Sep 2011
#79 ·
Can someone actually be useful for once and post some flight options to Milan—either the night before the game or on match day? This is for those of us who actually have jobs and don't have all day to spend traveling.
Zachary Anderson49 Zachary Anderson49 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Nov 2008
#80 ·
Melissa Reyes45 said:Can someone please be actually helpful here and find some flight options to Milan—either the night before the game or even on match day itself? It’s tough for those of us working full-time who just don't have the luxury of traveling mid-week.

There is a flight leaving from the coast on match day at 2:25 PM and landing in Milan at 3:50 PM for only $55.

The catch, however, is that the cheap return flights don't start until August 7th.
In any case, you might want to just take Friday off and look into a round-trip deal.

edit: easyJet is the airline involved.

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