Patrick Martin said:I doubt I'll get much more out of Stalker. I just don't see the point or the connection between a feature film and poetry or philosophy, especially within the Sci-Fi genre. It gets old fast for me; when you're heading up there, into space for instance, I want meaningful action.
Based on that quote from Solaris, one could conclude they went into space to find a conclusion about how humans need humans. Humanity. Alienation.
What a load of nonsense.
I don't need that. There are books for that.
I understand that not everyone has the same tastes, and I respect that, but "there are books for that"? 🤦
I followed your comments on that mockery thread about Prometheus, and now it's perfectly clear why you defend that piece of junk so aggressively. If you think Sci-Fi is nothing more than deep space and high-tech shootouts, you are dead wrong.
Since its inception, quality Sci-Fi has always been about more than just technological predictions and imaginative plots; it has consistently offered social commentary and explored humanity's place in the cosmos (for example, the impossibility of truly communicating with something too alien for us, which is a theme Lem frequently tackled in his stories—look at Solaris). And yes, there is actual plot development where the characters aren't just cardboard cutouts at the mercy of a weak script.
OT: Tough call: Kubrick or Cameron.
Kubrick's Odyssey is fantastic, specifically because of its realistic depiction of space exploration, even if some find it slow. Kubrick and Clarke weren't reinventing the wheel. One of my favorite aspects is the decompression situation in space (that scene with Bowman without a helmet) where people don't just explode like fireworks. It honestly irritates me when movies show people without suits suddenly freezing, exploding, bloating up like balloons, or turning into pigeons in space... but hey, I guess that's what the audience wants. 🤷
To be fair, it isn't all just hard facts; one of my favorite scenes in the movie is the space station waltz, serving as a sort of metaphor for the progress of human civilization. It's a shame their vision never actually materialized. 😢
Cameron, as someone already mentioned, should watch out for the mechanical nature of the film's technological backdrop. Just setting the stage for the shoot is an adventure in itself—take The Abyss, for example, which I watched a documentary about during production.