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How to create a custom keyboard layout in Windows 7?

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Participants slybear13Benjamin King2placidrangerbluecyclist64Kevin Mitchell18Noah Miller6Alex Johnson4
slybear13 slybear13 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Anyone know a way to software-edit the Windows 7 American keyboard layout? I want to make a custom version that keeps the standard American setup but swaps out the Y and Z keys to match how the rest of the world actually uses them, instead of this weird layout we're stuck with here. I mostly stick to the English layout anyway, and it drives me absolutely insane when I have to type a couple of words in American and end up having to manually fix every single Y and Z. If anyone has a system file like that, please just upload it or shoot me an email.
Benjamin King2 Benjamin King2 Active Member
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joined Apr 2007
#2 ·
Is this some kind of joke?!? 🤦 Maybe instead of fighting with that monkey keyboard, you could just buy one with an actual English layout?
slybear13 slybear13 NewcomerOP
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#3 ·
Honestly, this whole thing where Americans mess with the keyboard layout is a total joke. Like, why do these idiots feel the need to make something "special"? I actually went as far as wiping those weird local symbols off my keyboard that the monkeys at the Best Buy where I picked up my laptop insisted on printing there. Look, I only deal with international firms and I use nothing but English for work. This stuff people try to pull here is just pure stupidity, and even the foreigners agree. So yeah, custom layouts...
placidranger placidranger Regular
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joined Sep 2004
#4 ·
If you just need to swap those two specific letters, this might do the trick:
http://www.randyrants.com/2011/12/sharpkeys_35.html
Benjamin King2 Benjamin King2 Active Member
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#5 ·
slybear13 said:Honestly, the way Americans mess with layouts is just a total joke—like, they feel this weird, compulsive need to make everything "special." I actually went ahead and scrubbed all those extra symbols from my keyboard that the idiots at Best Buy stamped on my laptop when I bought it. Look, I exclusively deal with international firms and stick strictly to English for work. This whole obsession with localized layouts is pure nonsense—even people overseas agree. So yeah, custom layouts...

Wait, you’re telling me you have an American keyboard and you're still using an English layout?!? What's the point if you can type every single letter of the English alphabet perfectly fine on the standard layout anyway?
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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joined Oct 2011
#6 ·
slybear13 said:Does anyone know if there’s a way to software-edit the Windows 7 American keyboard layout? I want to recreate the standard American layout but with the QWERTY configuration the rest of the world actually uses, instead of this nonsense we deal with here. I primarily use the English layout, and frankly, it drives me insane when I have to type just a few words in my native language and end up having to manually correct every single Y and Z. If anyone has a modified system file they could upload or email over, I’d appreciate it.

Come on, show some decency and stop calling us idiots.
It seems you’re clearly struggling with basic motor skills, but nobody is going to tell you to your face that you're being an absolute moron.
Just buy a standard US keyboard and move on with your life. It’s not like you even bother using accented characters anyway.
placidranger placidranger Regular
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joined Sep 2004
#7 ·
My Android keyboard is stuck on the English layout, so I’m constantly tripping over the Z and Y keys. Now it’s started happening on my PC too—just constant typos. I totally get the frustration.
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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#8 ·
It’s funny, isn't it? How placidranger can get so visibly frustrated by missing characters, yet somehow manages to refrain from calling us all idiots.
Back when I first started working in DTP decades ago, I was stuck using an American keyboard layout on a machine set to a different regional standard. On my first day, I nearly threw the monitor out the window; by the third day, however, I was typing like a seasoned pro... 🙂
But that was a lifetime ago. I guess I'm just too old for this crap...🧐
slybear13 slybear13 NewcomerOP
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#9 ·
Whenever I can snag a spare second, I'll check out SharpKeys, thanks. Honestly, I bet some Americans get all worked up because I spend like 99% of my workday typing in English, even though whatever is printed on this keyboard was basically slapped on there by some random guy. There’s this one solid company—maybe someone here knows them—whose whole motto is "it either works, or it stays simple." If I have to waste brainpower thinking about US layouts instead of actually finishing my projects, then fine, maybe I'll just spitefully set everything to an English layout just to piss off that 1% of people who care too much... plus, there are fewer keys to deal with anyway.
Kevin Mitchell18 Kevin Mitchell18 Newcomer
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#10 ·
Here’s a great little program you can use to build whatever you need.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl....aspx?id=22339
Noah Miller6 Noah Miller6 Active Member
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joined Jul 2010
#11 ·
Dammit🤦
swap the Z and Y keys on your keyboard

This should be a championship run; it's been a while since we've seen one
placidranger placidranger Regular
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joined Sep 2004
#12 ·
Noah Miller6 said:Good grief... 🤦
just swap the Z and Y keys and call it even.

This should be a championship run—it’s been a while since we actually saw one.

What if you aren't even looking at the keyboard when you type?
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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#13 ·
slybear13 said:As soon as I find a spare moment, I’ll dive into SharpKeys. Thanks for the tip. Honestly, it feels like some Americans get worked up because I spend about 99% of my workday typing in English, even though the labels on my physical keyboard were slapped on by some amateur. There is one silver lining, though—one company (maybe those who actually understand design will get it) lives by the motto: "It either has to be simple, or it doesn't work." If I have to waste mental energy thinking about American layouts instead of focusing on my actual projects, I might just spitefully switch everything over to an English layout just to annoy that 1% of people who care too much... besides, there are fewer characters to deal with anyway.

You could argue that some Americans just get offended when you use a language they aren't familiar with. Whatever.
BTW, that "monkey" guy is your old man.
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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#14 ·
placidranger said:What if you're just typing without looking at the keyboard?

Do you honestly believe someone who had actually mastered touch typing would be asking a question like that?
placidranger placidranger Regular
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joined Sep 2004
#15 ·
bluecyclist64 said:Do you really think someone who actually mastered touch typing would be asking questions like this?

Actually, yes—that’s exactly where the friction lies. Once you've developed muscle memory for touch typing, you expect the 'y' key to be right where your fingers expect it, not swapped over with the 'z'. It's that classic "QWERTY vs QWERTZ" headache.
slybear13 slybear13 NewcomerOP
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#16 ·
this last update is gonna be solid. thanks. honestly, did anyone here actually think some people have nothing better to do at work than multitask through design projects while having zero mental bandwidth left over to obsess over some niche American keyboard layouts? because I don't. and we finally found the fix—just stick to a standardized, international American layout. it’d be a total ego trip if foreigners were proud of me for that. thinking about this stuff is just pure stupidity, like all those useless "innovations" dreamt up by people who think they're way smarter than they actually are. we don't even need a language for a bunch of four million nobodies; English would be perfectly fine.
Alex Johnson4 Alex Johnson4 Newcomer
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#17 ·
slybear13 said:This last update looks solid, thanks. But seriously, did anyone here actually think there are people out there who have actual responsibilities at work? I’m talking about multitasking, designing, and dealing with real-world problems—people who don't exactly have spare brainpower to obsess over some niche American keyboard layout. I definitely don't. And we finally found the fix: just stick to a standardized international layout. It’s funny how people act like this is some grand achievement. Expecting everyone to sit around overthinking this is just pure stupidity, like trying to reinvent the wheel or come up with some "innovative" nonsense that only a few local busybodies would care about. Honestly, with a population as small as ours, we wouldn't even need our own language; sticking to English would be perfectly fine.

Anyone who actually uses a computer for anything serious should know that the American keyboard layout has been the standard for decades and has absolutely nothing to do with whatever weird regional variations you're thinking of.

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