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ruggedscout76 said:And from someone who is clearly struggling, it looks like 🤣
I suppose I should probably start predicting those dreadfully dull, predictable outcomes.☕
briskhound76 said:Hey competitors and everyone else looking to take us down 😋
So, silentbear49 and I don't have any teammates over at our College branch, and we’re looking to team up just so we actually stand a chance against the rest of you in this group competition. But since things are already moving, we’ve been chatting with the tournament director and figured we should probably check the temperature of the room first.
We’re ready to join forces and become one single unit, just some underdogs, but here’s the real question:
Is it cool if we carry over our current points to the new team?
If you think that gives us an unfair advantage or leaves the rest of you screwed for the rest of the season, then we could just have one of us drop their points over to the College squad to start from zero, while the other stays put with their existing score.
Thanks for listening, and hopefully we can find a solution that doesn't make everyone want to throw their keyboards at us 😌
stormytiger4 said:Look, I’m really not trying to make life difficult for briskhound76 or silentbear49, but this whole thing totally messes with the spirit of team racing. If they just spin up a new squad and scoop up points from both existing teams, it sets a nasty precedent. A brand-new team didn't actually earn those points. We could end up with two top-tier drivers teaming up mid-season in some newly formed outfit and just steamrolling their way to the Constructors' Championship.
Here’s how I see it working: since Soleri has more points than the Underdogs, briskhound76 should just leave the Underdogs and jump ship to Soleri. He can't take his points with him, so the Underdogs keep those points in the standings. It’s early days anyway, and Soleri starting with 45 points is a solid foundation. From there, they just stack points together under the Soleri banner. Even if they decide to rename the team later, they keep the points because they're legally the same entity as Soleri.
To put it simply: if Tsunoda moved to Aston Martin instead of Vettel—who hasn't even scored a single point—he wouldn't carry those 2 points over; they’d stay with AlphaTauri. And if AlphaTauri and Aston Martin tried to merge halfway through the season? There's zero chance the FIA would let them combine their points.
graniteharbor502 said:8. What happens if a competitor fails to submit a fresh prediction, or perhaps submits one only after the official deadline has already passed? In such an instance, the "Joker" rule will be triggered. You see, while it is mandatory for every participant to provide a new prediction for every single race, the rules allow for three "Jokers" per season; these are activated automatically whenever someone misses a submission, at which point their most recent official prediction will be credited for those specific races. However, once a player has exhausted all three of their "Jokers," no further points will be awarded to them, meaning they would be required to submit a new prediction if they truly wish to remain in the competition.
If a competitor fails to submit a fresh prediction for two consecutive races, their teammate is granted the authority to remove them from the team if they see fit; should this occur, that individual will simply proceed through the rest of the competition as a solo entrant, unless they explicitly state otherwise.
9. Is there any clarity regarding the protocols for submitting predictions? To ensure everything remains orderly, a participant may only post their predictions using the specific username they utilized when registering for the competition—unless, of course, an administrator has seen fit to modify that handle. Furthermore, we must establish that any participant facing a ban is ineligible to participate in the specific round during which the ban is active. This regulation applies to anyone whose suspension lasts at least until the submission deadline for that particular round; however, an exception exists if the individual managed to submit a fresh prediction prior to the ban being enforced, in which case that prediction will be honored regardless of their status. Additionally, should a banned participant possess an unused Joker prediction and fail to submit a standard entry for the round in question, that Joker prediction will still be applied to their score, just as it would for any other competitor. Does this sufficiently outline the expectations for everyone involved?
10. Is it not a fascinating thought that competitors might move between teams without any restriction whatsoever? In the event that such a transfer occurs, one must consider how the scoring functions; specifically, a competitor does not carry over the collective team points earned during their tenure with a previous squad, though their individual points remain entirely intact. Does this not seem like a fair distinction to maintain? This same logic applies to those who have been eliminated from the competition as well. Essentially, team points begin accumulating anew from the very moment a fresh team is established, whereas a simple change in a team's name carries no weight regarding the point totals. Each team is permitted two name changes throughout the duration of the season, yet prior to the start of the season, they may alter their designation as often as they see fit. Is there not a certain freedom in that level of flexibility?
11. If a participant chooses to include a driver in their prediction who doesn't actually appear on the official FIA entry list for a specific race, will they receive any points for that selection? The answer is a firm no; if the driver isn't part of the official roster, they simply don't count. Furthermore, one cannot claim points for drivers omitted from their submitted ranking, regardless of how logical or seemingly necessary it might feel to have left a specific individual out. The scoring process follows the exact positions a participant assigns to their chosen drivers; therefore, should there be a clerical error or a typo in those numerical rankings, the standings will be calculated strictly according to the numbers provided, however flawed they may be. If certain positions are left blank, no points will be awarded for them. Additionally, if a participant happens to list the same position number or the same driver more than once, all points associated with those duplicate entries will be forfeited entirely. What occurs if someone lists more drivers than would normally be expected to start a race under standard circumstances? In such an instance, no points will be granted for those surplus drivers or extra positions. For any driver where a position hasn't been specified, they shall be treated as NOP. However, if the entire ranking is submitted without any position numbers at all, the list will be processed as a ranking without any NOPs. Is it not essential that we maintain this level of precision to ensure fairness for everyone involved?
12. Is it not worth noting that copying someone else's prediction is strictly prohibited? It is a matter we take quite seriously, though we only move to investigate and issue penalties if a participant files a formal complaint, and even then, only once the deadline for submitting predictions on this thread has officially passed. For those wondering what constitutes plagiarism in this context, it is defined as posting more than 75% of the drivers—including all groups, rounded up to the nearest whole number—in the exact same positions as another prediction already submitted for that specific race. Naturally, any previous predictions being utilized as Jokers are excluded from this calculation. Should anyone be found guilty of such copying, the penalty is straightforward: the prediction will simply be disregarded entirely.
13. How exactly are the standings calculated? Well, they are determined strictly based on the official results released by the FIA immediately following the conclusion of the race—that initial preliminary order is what counts. Any subsequent corrections or adjustments made by the FIA after that moment are simply not taken into account for our purposes. As for the Non-Points scorers, we consider any driver listed on the official FIA entry list who fails to secure a finishing position, regardless of whether their status is marked as a DNF, NC, or Retired. Furthermore, if we look at the standard FIA regulations, a driver is technically considered to have retired if they complete less than 90% of the total race distance. And of course, the race itself consists of however many laps the FIA deems necessary, whether they decide that through their standard procedure or via some extraordinary ruling.
Drivers who fail to qualify during the qualifying sessions and therefore do not participate in the race will be calculated as NOP, provided they were officially included on the FIA entry list.
3. Should any controversial situation arise during the competition that isn't explicitly covered by the specific points within these Regulations, the Race Director shall make the final call, relying upon common sense and adhering to the fundamental moral principle of fair play. These Regulations take effect upon their publication within the Championship thread designated for rules and standings, though they may be subject to amendments if, as the season progresses, it becomes evident that such changes are absolutely necessary to ensure the smooth and effective operation of the competition.
4. It remains possible to replace the Race Director at any point during the competition, should a majority of the competitors elect a new director who is willing to accept the position. In much the same manner, any disputed rules may be modified, though under no circumstances can such changes be applied retroactively to previous events.
stormybadger8 said:Why are we even arguing about this when there's already a rule in place? 🤔
Amanda Kelly said:Fair enough, I can get behind that.
I was actually leaning toward one of the suggestions from briskhound76 (about transferring a driver's points over to the team), but if the rules are already set in stone, then there's really nothing left to talk about.