Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

Frank Kim26 said:What exactly are you guys doing that we aren't?🤷
We've been fighting this fight longer than I can remember.

Stop acting like an idiot and realize there is no "us versus them" here. There are just people fighting and people building.

Timothy Barnes8 said:Just chill out for a second and realize this isn't about "us vs them"... it's just people fighting and people building...

but what about those of us doing both...😕

Frank Kim26 said:Give the guy a break. That cop is just a regular person with a wife and kids at home. Nobody wants anything to happen to him.

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Don't you see the irony between your username and what you just posted? 🤷

wanderingpuma18 said:And honestly, there are plenty of fans out there who don't let anything stop them from acting exactly how they want to act.
I'm not saying we should mock him—it’s not like anyone actually enjoys seeing things go south—but still... why is everyone still bringing up Garcia? You really think people care about him? The guy's life isn't going to be easy moving forward, that much is obvious. He’s dealing with his own family issues too, yet people still insist on labeling him just because of what happened. At the end of the day, this whole police situation doesn't move the needle for me one bit.

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John Brown30 said:😲 😂Look, 😂you 😂really
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you can't miss the irony between your username and this post 🤷

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BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT HE SAID!!!

wanderingpuma18 said:Just because there's a bunch of fans doesn't mean they can act like total jerks...
I'm not saying we should mock what happened—nobody deserves that—but still... why does everyone keep bringing up Gallic? You think people actually care? His life isn't gonna be easy moving forward either, especially since he’s dealing with his parents' situation too, yet they still treat him like some hooligan who got exactly what was coming to him. Honestly, those cops don't really bother me that much...

They aren't all bad people, but personally, I think mocking someone with a disability is just way below any level of decency... but hey, that's just my take...😁

slylynx3 said:Can someone help me find the actual date for this post? I'm pretty sure I wrote this like five months ago...🤷

Yeah, I was just looking at that too. Sorry, my computer clock kind of reset itself, so now all my old posts are showing up with today's date instead of when they were actually made.😉

wearyorca75 said:🤣🤣

BUT I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT HE SAID!!!

I don't feel bad for that jerk one bit. If he hadn't thrown that tear gas canister right back at the crowd, none of this would have happened.

I was thinking, maybe people should just head out toward the north end or wherever the edge of the stadium is and actually show up to cheer. Not because of some self-righteous "holy war" or any of those ultra-group dynamics, but honestly, just to support the players and the front office... because, let's be real, this current management actually backs us. Every previous board we've had would have been spitting on the NFL Ultras in a situation like this, and we all remember how that went... I know the flares aren't exactly anyone's favorite thing and they’d probably prefer if they weren't around, but at least they aren't dragging our name through the mud. As for fighting against those idiots over at the Federation or those guys writing about "us versus them," I think there's definitely an "us and them" dynamic here, though you can interpret my little hint however you want... And please, don't think you're "saving" the fan movement by chanting things about corrupt officials or how they've ruined the game. The only thing that makes sense right now is focusing on the actual legal stuff and the code... because once the owners and the big shots leave, someone else will just step in and the laws will stay exactly the same... On the stands, we should just do what we've always done, maybe minus the stuff where we throw things onto the field. It seems like a lot of people in this thread are trying to frame this whole thing as some "ultra" manifesto, which for most people just means putting the group above everything else, and as long as that's the case, I'll be a hardcore realist. Because at the end of the day, the Kansas City Chiefs come first, then the NFL Ultras, and everything else comes after that.

Anonymous said:I don't care about that jerk one bit. If he hadn't thrown a tear gas canister back at the crowd, this wouldn't have even happened.

You're talking nonsense—none of us actually know exactly what went down, but the guy lost an eye, and it's just stupid to be debating whether he deserved it right now! And honestly, I don't believe for a second that we want anyone getting hurt like this, regardless of whatever heated crap people said or did in the moment!

slytrucker51 said:Personally, I think we should head out toward the north end or wherever possible near the stadium just to show up. Not because of some "holy war" or ultra-group politics, but just to support the players and the front office. Because, let's face it, this current management actually supports us. Previous boards would've been spitting on the NFL Ultras in a situation like this—we all remember that. I know the flares aren't exactly loved by them and they'd prefer we didn't have them, but at least they aren't screwing us over. As for fighting those idiots from the Federation or whatever this guy is writing... there's no "us vs. them." There is definitely an "us and them," though—take it however you want... and don't think you're "saving" the fan movement by chanting things about corrupt officials or how the league ruined football. The only thing that actually makes sense in the town square is dealing with the legal code. Because Markovic and the big bosses will eventually leave and someone else will step in, but the laws stay the same. On the stands, we should just do what we've always done, maybe minus throwing stuff on the field. It seems like a lot of guys in this thread are trying to frame this as some "ultra" thing. For many, that just means the group comes first, and as long as that's the case, I'll be a hardcore realist. Because the Kansas City Chiefs come first, then the NFL Ultras, then everything else.

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bluehound15 said:It’s not about just congregating—thousands of us standing under the North Stand trying to look tough while surrounded by a literal army of riot police. Any idiot suggesting we should just act like a bunch of hooligans misses the point entirely. I was talking about a genuine gathering of Kansas City Chiefs fans from every generation—a massive, unified show of support for our club...

There is absolutely zero point in "gathering" or whatever you want to call it—there's no such thing as a peaceful little get-together behind metal barricades when the goal is to actually get them removed!!
We need direct action, and then more action, and then even more action!!!

analogheron19 said:Does it not shame you to invoke Jesus's name in such a mocking manner?

Oh, hello there, my dear. 😍 You people staged massive choreographies spanning two entire stands featuring Vatican keys, checkerboard patterns, and depictions of King Tomislav—and then you have the nerve to ask Issa what he wants? Meanwhile, our lot stays "discreetly" devoted only to Saint Duke and John Paul II. 😁 Love just seems to overflow in every direction. One moment you’re showing affection, and the next, you’re taking out wearyorca75 and trampling the liberals. Ah, the good old church and its way of raising us. 🙂

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slytrucker51 said:I'm all for heading out to the north end or wherever they let us near the stadium just to show support. Not because of some "holy war" or ultra bullshit, but just to back the players and the front office. At least this management actually backs us. Previous owners? They’d spit on the Raiders in a situation like this. We haven't forgotten. I get that the flares aren't beloved and people wish they weren't around, but at least they aren't screwing us over. And regarding the fight against those idiots at the US Soccer Federation or whatever the news says—there isn't an "us vs. them." I think there definitely is an "us vs. them," and I won't say how I feel about certain local politicians... take that however you want. And don't think you're "saving" the fan movement by chanting stuff about corrupt officials or how the federation ruined the game. The only thing that makes sense right now is dealing with the legal stuff. Because once the big bosses leave, someone else will step in and the laws will stay exactly the same. On the stands, we should just do what we always do, maybe minus throwing things on the field. Seems like a lot of guys in this thread are trying to make this an "ultra" thing. To most people, that just means putting the group first. As long as that's the case, I'll be a hardcore realist. Because the Kansas City Chiefs come first, then the Raiders, then everything else.

Listen, guys, enough with the mindless slogans. Yeah, the Raiders are my number one, and the Chiefs come after. But don't give me that crap about traveling to small towns in the Midwest just to support the team. Support which team? For God's sake, what are you even talking about?

steeltrucker said:Listen, guys—cut the stupid clichés. Yeah, the Hell Angels come first for me, then the Los Angeles Dodgers. Don't try telling me you travel to Indianapolis or small towns in the Midwest just to support the Dodgers... what "Dodgers" are we even talking about? For God's sake...

that guy from Los Angeles.

Matthew Foster8 said:🤦

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Jesus, Mary Hajdukov's/Dynamo's army 🤣🙂

steeltrucker said:Look, guys, stop with those mindless clichés. Yes, the Hell Angels come first for me, and the Los Angeles Dodgers follow right after. Don't try to tell me that people travel from places like Indianapolis or small towns in the Midwest just to support the Dodgers. Support which team? For heaven's sake, what are we even talking about here?...

But really, why else would anyone go?
Of course, everything else is a nice bonus, but the core reason—the Dodgers—has never been up for debate, and I sincerely hope it stays that way; otherwise, there’s honestly no point in showing up at all.
And while we're on the subject, it isn't exactly surprising that you hear so much buzzing and grumbling coming from the stands when half the crowd there clearly couldn't care less about the game.

Tyler Scott8 said:So why even bother showing up?
I mean, sure, everything else might be a bonus, but let's get one thing straight—the Los Angeles Dodgers are the whole damn reason I care, and they always will be. If it wasn't for them, I wouldn't be wasting my breath or my time at all.
And honestly? It’s no wonder the fans in the stands are constantly buzzing and grumbling under their breath... half of them don't give a single crap about being there anyway.

Just ignore the idiots... the Los Angeles Dodgers are number one, no matter what kind of mess they're in, and behind them comes the Hell Angels and everything else... without the Dodgers, the Hell Angels wouldn't even exist... It's just like the late Ante Dorić used to say... 😉
P.S. Man, Tom did a killer job yesterday taking down those two guys, especially Vrbanović... seriously, props to you, Tom—or may Valsimot bless you!😉

Look, I’m not saying I’m mad—it’s just not that it's wrong, but throwing flares onto the field makes zero sense. If every group was lighting them up inside our own section—making the whole stand glow and keeping the fire on the floor—then I'm all for it. That’s what a flare is actually for, right? To create a massive spectacle where the entire stand is lit up. It looks incredible. But honestly, the Boys have this weirdly stupid habit where about 70% of everything lit ends up flying off the stands anyway. That’s why the pyro looks so pathetic sometimes—you get the feeling like maybe 6 flares were lit when it was actually 30, but half of them are already being doused in trash cans by the firefighters before they even catch fire in the stands. 🤷

Bryan Wright8 said:Look, I’m not even complaining, per se. It just doesn't make sense throwing flares onto the field. Lighting them up? Sure. I’d say God bless every single group if they lit every flare and let them burn bright... but keep them in your own section. Light them up and drop them on the floor. Isn't that what a flare is for? Creating a spectacle in the stands. It looks great when the whole section is glowing. You guys are being generous; I’m just surprised by how stupid the Boys' habit is—about 70% of everything lit flies right off the stands. That’s why the displays look like nothing. You get the feeling like maybe six flares were lit, when really it was thirty, except half of them are already being smothered in trash cans by the firefighters on the turf before the rest even catch fire in the stands. 🤷

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