slytrucker51 said:Personally, I’m all for heading to the north end or wherever the stadium perimeter allows just to show up. It isn't about some supposed "holy war" or following strict ultra protocols; it's about supporting the players and the front office. After all, this administration actually stands by us. Previous boards used to spit on the Hell Angels in every way imaginable—we all remember that. I know the flares aren't exactly beloved and they'd prefer we didn't show up, but at least they aren't attacking us. As for fighting those bureaucrats at the Federation and the claims from the Boys that there is no "us" vs "them"... I think there absolutely is an "us" and "them," and I won't be specific about who I mean... take it however you want. And don't think you're saving the fan movement by chanting things about crooked officials or how they ruined American soccer. The only thing that makes sense in the public square right now is dealing with the legal code. Because Markovic and Mamic will eventually leave, and someone else will step in, but the laws stay the same. On the stands, we should just do what we've always done, maybe without throwing stuff on the pitch. It seems like a lot of people here are trying to frame this as some "ultra" movement issue. To many, that just means the group comes first, and as long as that's the case, I'll be a hardcore realist. Because first comes the Los Angeles Dodgers, then the Hell Angels, and everything else comes after...
Now is exactly when we need to throw things on the pitch!! And yes, those are "ultra schemes"! All of you sitting here talking trash about ultra culture clearly don't understand a damn thing. And if anyone tries to play the enlightened teacher, let me save them the trouble: I don't have the patience or the will, and you'll never get it. Unfortunately, we've tried a thousand times already...
Second point. My buddy NALER is a bigger Dodgers fan than half the people claiming they'll travel to Indianapolis just for the love of the team. Sure, maybe some will. But I think his point is clear. In a situation like our club has faced over the last decade, you travel out of love and romance, but don't lie to me and say you're driving to Orašje for the Dodgers. You're going for the party. A real party, without the pretenders and the fair-weather fans...