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Are there any cheaper alternatives to Doximax?

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Andrew Peterson2 Andrew Peterson2 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
I figured I’d kick this thread off so everyone else can jump in too—doesn't look like anyone else has really started a conversation like this yet...
So, my grandma is buying this insanely expensive medication, Doximax, to help with her circulation. If she skips a dose, her legs swell up like balloons and the pain becomes just unbearable. The thing is, Medicare won't cover it, so she’s stuck paying out of pocket... and honestly, most of her monthly Social Security check goes straight to the pharmacy. It’s exhausting just watching it happen.
A friend of hers was actually asking why insurance doesn't cover certain meds that clearly work for people, and all she got was some canned response about how there are "free alternatives" available through the provider that could supposedly replace these pricey brands.
Does anyone here happen to know what the actual free alternative to Doximax would be?
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
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#2 ·
Andrew Peterson2 said:I’m starting this thread so everyone can jump in, since I haven't seen anyone else bringing this up yet.
My grandmother is currently buying this super expensive medication called Doximax to help with her circulation. If she skips it, her legs swell up and she deals with unbearable pain. Since Medicare doesn't cover it, she has to pay out of pocket, which pretty much eats up her entire Social Security check most months.
A friend of mine was asking why insurance won't cover certain drugs that actually work for people, and she just got told there are free alternatives covered by insurance that could replace these pricey brands.
Does anyone know what the free alternative to Doximax would be?

That’s what they call generics. It’s the exact same formula, just under a different name from a different manufacturer—usually way cheaper than the "brand name" stuff. In this case, you're looking for Calcium Dobesilate. Just ask the pharmacist which generic version is available at your local CVS or Walgreens.
swiftbear86 swiftbear86 Active Member
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#3 ·
Doximax and most generics aren't even registered here in the States, which basically means they can't be distributed through the normal channels. A pharmacy might be able to order them if you bring in a private prescription, provided www.fda.gov gives the green light (usually involves an agency seal on the back of the script). Since these drugs aren't officially registered, Medicare won't cover them—it’s pretty much always out-of-pocket for the patient unless there's a rare exception.
I saw Doxium 60x500 mg going for about $250-$90, though I'm not sure if you can find a better deal somewhere else.🤷
Your other option, besides going to a pharmacy in person, would be to drive over to Mexico or somewhere similar if the prices are lower and they'll actually honor an American prescription from across the border.🤷
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
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#4 ·
swiftbear86 said:Doximax and generics aren't even registered here in the States, which means they can't be distributed through standard channels. A pharmacy might be able to order them using a private prescription if www.fda.gov clears it (basically an official agency-stamped script). Since these drugs aren't registered, Medicare won't cover them either—with a few rare exceptions—so the patient is stuck footing the entire bill themselves.
Doxium 60x500 mg costs about $250$90, though I'm not sure if you can find it cheaper somewhere else.🤷
Besides physically going elsewhere, like maybe driving over to Mexico if it's cheaper and if they're actually allowed to sell it via a foreign prescription.🤷

If they’re selling chemotherapy drugs, I don't see why they couldn't handle this. Honestly, the issue isn't even with Medicare; it's with Pfizer, who hasn't even bothered to file the registration paperwork here in America. That's the absolute prerequisite for getting anything added to the Medicare coverage list. Why they're dragging their feet is anyone's guess.🤷
swiftbear86 swiftbear86 Active Member
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#5 ·
Back in the day—I’m talking way back like 1988—we used to have Doxium from Pfizer available here.
They didn't renew the registration, and honestly, I highly doubt they ever will.
The big question was whether there's a free alternative out there. The answer is no.
In this country, "free" basically means anything covered under the standard Medicare formulary.
For a drug to be on that list, it generally has to be officially registered, with just a few rare exceptions.
Years ago, maybe 15 or 20 years back, you could get circulation meds with just a simple prescription. I don't see that happening again. Nowadays, everything comes with a price tag, assuming the patient actually wants it and can afford it.
In this specific situation, the best bet is for the family to chip in and help grandma out, or perhaps try reaching out to the Department of Social Services or the local City Hall to see if there's any one-time financial assistance available.😢
Matthew Fox4 Matthew Fox4 Member
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#6 ·
swiftbear86 said:Man, I was just thinking back to way back when—like, 1988, if my memory serves me right—and I remember we used to have Doxium from Pfizer on the market here. Good times, though I can't say I miss all that old-school paperwork!
I don't think they extended the registration, and honestly? I’ve got a bad feeling it's not coming anytime soon either.
So, I was thinking about that question... you know, the one about whether there's actually a free alternative out there? Honestly? Nah. Not really.
Honestly, if you aren't looking at that basic Medicare formulary, you're probably paying way too much. Basically, the only stuff that's actually free is what's on that official list. Everything else? Yeah, you're digging into your own pocket.
Basically, you can only make the list if you're officially registered—well, there are a few tiny exceptions here and there, but mostly, that's the rule!
Man, I was just thinking about this the other day... back in the day, like maybe 15 or 20 years ago, you actually needed a prescription just to get your hands on circulation meds. It’s wild how much things have changed since then. Honestly? I highly doubt we're ever going back to that. Everything is so much more "over the counter" now, isn't it? Just my two cents!Everything’s got a price tag these days, obviously—well, that is if you actually want the treatment and can swing the cost, anyway. It's funny how things work out like that.
So, looking at how things stand, I guess it really comes down to the family stepping up to help Grandma out. Or, if that’s not an option, they could always try reaching out to the Department of Social Services or maybe even City Hall to see if there's some kind of one-time grant or emergency assistance available. It’s a bit of a process, honestly—reminds me of when my neighbor was trying to navigate all those local aid programs last summer—but it might be worth a shot!😢

It looks like you really know your stuff when it comes to this kind of thing, so I figured I’d pick your brain. Do you happen to have any idea why they haven't renewed the registration for Doxium yet? And what makes you think there's a chance it might not actually get extended?

Wait, so let me get this straight—are circulation meds just not covered by Medicare anymore? I mean, at least that’s how it sounds from what you said. It feels like such a huge shift from how things used to be. Did they suddenly decide that blood flow issues aren't exactly "life-threatening" enough to warrant coverage? Or did the big pharma folks, like Pfizer, basically prove that the old stuff wasn't doing much anyway? It’s just so confusing when the rules change overnight like that. One day you're all set, and the next, everything is different. I was chatting with a friend about this over coffee the other day, and she was just as baffled!

It’s funny how everything seems to have a price tag attached to it lately, isn't it? Like, you turn around and suddenly every little thing costs a fortune. But when it comes to health insurance—I mean, we pay our premiums and those payroll taxes to Medicare, right? Shouldn't that actually cover our prescriptions? I know there's usually some kind of co-pay involved, or sometimes you're fully covered, but honestly, the details don't even matter at this point. It just feels like we're paying for one thing and then getting hit with another bill immediately after.
swiftbear86 swiftbear86 Active Member
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#7 ·
That whole payment thing only applied to circulation meds. None of them were covered by Medicare.
When they pulled those drugs from the Medicare list, the reasoning was basically that they weren't showing any standout results. Since everyone and their mother was using them, the costs were just spiraling. Now, some of them have even been taken off the market entirely.
Even renewing a registration comes with its own fees and long wait times, so manufacturers often just decide it isn't worth the headache to even start the process.

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