Formula 1 Indian Grand Prix - Buddh International Circuit (Oct 30, 2011)

William Bennett53 said:Watching the race, I wanted to share another impression: as a kid, I was obsessed with pro-wrestling and loved those ridiculous feuds that felt more like a daytime soap opera. Unbelievably, this recent collision between Massa and Hamilton reminded me of exactly that. It wasn’t just the fact that they’ve collided six times now; it’s the follow-up statements and the constant finger-pointing. Yesterday, Felipe didn't just refuse to entertain the idea that he might have messed up; he straight up claimed Hamilton is responsible for every single collision they've had. Even Hulk Hogan would find that dramatic. 😁

This looks like child's play compared to the driver rivalries we saw back in the 80s and early 90s.

This is milk and honey... nothing happens until people actually start throwing punches.

This is exactly why part of the fanbase—the older crowd—complains about modern F1. They feel the drivers lack character. If someone actually speaks their mind today, they’re immediately labeled a crybaby. It seems younger fans today prefer "nice guys" and introverted alcoholics.

I wouldn't even want to get into a debate about why that is.

darkmarlin16 said:Yeah, and if Fernando, Mark Webber, Michael Schumacher, and Nico Rosberg all retired too...

nah, darkmarlin16
it’s more than enough that the first two dropped out, so some total wimp can just coast into first place...😉

Jason Campbell70 said:[IMAGE DELETED]

You should be ashamed of yourself... 👎

hollowgull5 said:nah, darkmarlin16
it’s more than enough that the first two guys just checked out, so now some total crybaby gets to take the lead instead 😉

yeah, we all saw how he was basically trying to overtake a senior citizen 😳🤣🤣🤣🤣

darkmarlin16 said:So, did you guys see him out there absolutely shredding his grandpa's old records...😳🤣🤣🤣🤣

Come on, quit being such a hater... 😉

hollowgull5 said:And sure, Fettel and Button just made up, and now we get to see this soft kid standing on top of the podium👋

but that's all old news🙂

man, listen
the reality is just that Mark Webber plays bodyguard for Fettel, and he’s finally accepted his role in this little drama starting this year
so he isn't causing nearly as much drama anymore😬 🤣

though if Alonso hadn't completely blown it like he planned, we'd be looking at a totally different story right about now🙂

steelmaker83 said:compared to the absolute wreckage of driver relationships back in the 80s and early 90s, this is nothing

it's pure bliss... until they actually start throwing hands again

exactly how it is🙂 😁

Maria Lopez said:Look,
the reality is Mark Webber is just protecting Fettel's pace, and he's totally accepted that this is how things are from here on out.
That's why he isn't making such a huge scene anymore.😬🤣

But man, if Alonso hadn't completely tanked his plan, we'd be talking about a totally different story right now.🙂

Exactly.🙂 😁

Mark Webber is basically acting as a shield for Vettel against a dangerous Massa.🤣

And apparently, Massa and Lewis Hamilton just live for the spotlight.🤷 They probably act like idiots on purpose just so the media won't stop talking about them.

@ stormybadger8, if you could just dial back the fanaticism for once and actually show some consistency in how you judge things, you’d realize Tom is exactly where he needs to be, I'm positive 🙂

but unfortunately, that's just asking too much from you

Maria Lopez said:@ tbfd, if you could just set aside your fanboy emotions for a second and be even slightly consistent with your takes and logic, you'd realize this is how it is. I'm certain about it. 🙂

But unfortunately, you just can't manage that.

Seriously, if you think Mark Webber is out there covering Sebastian Vettel's back, you need glasses.

Another thing is that Mark Webber is clearly struggling, and he isn't aggressively attacking like he did last year—that much is obvious. ☕
He’s probably having such a garbage season because of it. 🤷

So the question is: is Mark Webber this slow and bad because Sebastian Vettel is just that much faster, leaving him in the dust, or is Red Bull Racing holding him back from being just as quick?
I don't know what you think, but to me, it looks like it's the first one.

Anyway, I can't remember a single race where Mark Webber held off a direct rival instead of just babysitting Sebastian Vettel. Name one. Just one.

stormybadger8 said:It’s a different story when Mark Webber clearly isn't getting absolutely hammered out there like he was last year, that much is obvious.☕

Right... and I guess that just happened by pure coincidence, totally his own idea, right? 😁

I'm not even gonna waste my breath arguing this with you, sorry.

Maria Lopez said:Oh sure... just happened by accident, right? Just totally out of nowhere. 😁

Not gonna waste my breath arguing with you, sorry.

Of course it wasn't an accident. Last year, the team basically let them run wild, and it was pure stupidity—not just from Webber's side, but Vettel's too.☕

You can let them drive how you want, but when your two drivers are constantly shoving each other at the start and bumping wheels mid-race, you're running an amateur outfit. That's amateur hour.

They're throwing points away and flushing all that money and effort spent on the car and the crew straight down the drain.
If those guys at Red Bull Racing actually used their heads last year, both Alonso and McLaren would have been right in the thick of the title fight.

Maybe watching idiots crash into each other is entertaining for us, but teams care about winning and money. They don't care about us laughing while two morons wreck their cars on track.

Maria Lopez said:@ tbfd, if you could just set aside your fanboy bias for once...

😂

Maria Lopez said:... and if you were even remotely consistent with your takes and predictions ...

😂

Maria Lopez said:...but unfortunately, you're incapable of that.

The guy is a total stubborn mule. 😂

Fine, at least it gave me a laugh. In this swamp of boredom and general apathy from the rest of the crowd, this is easily the funniest post on the thread. Even if there was a tiny grain of truth in it.

😁

I actually dig his vibe; he’s got solid insights and genuinely knows his stuff, unlike half the clowns hanging out in this thread ☕, but honestly, there are certain topics where you just don't pick a fight with him because he’ll absolutely steamroll you. amen. 🙂😳😁

Maria Lopez said:😁

I actually like him.

😲

Off to check if my wife left her laptop open in the living room.🤣

Maria Lopez said:😁
He can have great takes and he definitely knows his stuff, unlike half the people on this forum, ☕but there are some topics where you just shouldn't argue with him because he'll absolutely crush you. Amen. 🙂😳😁

🤣

Not totally, just a little.😬

stormybadger8 said:🤣

Not entirely, just a little bit 😬

I don't really have an issue with that 🙂😁

Chris Ortiz said:

What a clickbait headline 🤣

That sentence makes zero sense paired with Jenson Button in the same article. If it were Mark Webber, maybe I'd buy it, 🤣but definitely not with him.

stormybadger8 said:What a total clickbait headline 🤣

Pathetic 🙄

A little recap of the race 🤣🤣🤣

feltov thumb and jesss, jessss 🤣

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95863

Interesting stuff. Webber thinks Massu shouldn't have been penalized.

Looking at the actual move, I'm with him—but let's be real, it still looks like Massu was intentionally cutting him off to force a wreck. Then again, Hamilton drove into him like a total amateur.🤷