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New fan laws: What do we think?

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George Gonzalez George Gonzalez Newcomer
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#281 ·
And what about when Mamic managed to sneak onto the field during overtime against San Diego last season? I don't recall anyone getting slapped with a penalty then, either.
wiredfalcon2 wiredfalcon2 Regular
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#282 ·
Look, just stop throwing flares. Honestly, go out and rob a few million instead; at least the penalties aren't nearly as bad.
John Brown30 John Brown30 Regular
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joined Sep 2011
#283 ·
Not everyone gets a shot at pocketing a million 😢
Kevin Hall11 Kevin Hall11 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2013
#284 ·
What’s the point of them recording IDs...😕
Kyle Moore56 Kyle Moore56 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2013
#285 ·
Peter Barrett said:honestly, I think it’s pretty obvious by now that the war is already lost

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...08389124_n.jpg

Lost? What do you mean the war is lost? We’re gonna be right here, whether we’re inside the stadium or following our club from the parking lot. We aren't backing down, ever. Nothing is lost—we're just taking our inevitable wins later on.
Lisa White78 Lisa White78 Newcomer
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#286 ·
wiredfalcon2 said:People shouldn't be lighting flares; if you steal millions, the penalties are practically non-existent.

It’s always the fans facing jail time while millions vanish without anyone being held accountable.
Brian Newman38 Brian Newman38 Member
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#287 ·
It strikes me that very soon, beyond just the merger of the local hardcore supporter groups, we are going to need something much more significant on a global scale—a unified front for all ultras everywhere.
Is there anyone left who doesn't see that there is a movement sweeping across all of Europe to dismantle the entire supporter culture?
It is blindingly obvious that the system wants to break the spirit of young, defiant, and rebellious people, essentially turning them into nothing more than compliant, docile sheep.

http://www.casualultra.com/1508-leed...l#.Ut_0qvvR_ow

May we find some luck in this...
Brian Newman38 Brian Newman38 Member
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#288 ·
Oh, I almost forgot to mention some news coming out of Italy: the police have actually banned the leaders of the AC Milan and Inter fan groups from standing by the goalposts to lead the chants during matches. Apparently, if they try to take charge of the cheering, they’ll face strict bans... ☕
John Martin18 John Martin18 Member
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#289 ·
Well, it seems like we’re always playing catch-up, constantly staying at least one step behind them...
It’s just not worth insulting the police; you won't gain anything from it. Better to save that energy for when you actually get home..😁
And what can you even do if the entire stadium is losing its mind? (Which, honestly, is a rarity here—usually, it's only a handful of people shouting).
Whatever. That whole ACAB sentiment just hit a brick wall...🤣
A Anonymous Veteran
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#290 ·
http://sportska.info/index.php/navij...i-protiv-hns-a

The vouchers were scrapped recently. Honestly, it’s about what you'd expect, but it leaves a massive question mark hanging over everyone's heads: who is actually going to take the heat for this?
Aaron Richardson7 Aaron Richardson7 Newcomer
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#291 ·
IV. SPECTATORS
Section 24.
(1) Spectators aren't allowed to act up while heading to the game, during the match, or even on their way out.
(2) If you start causing trouble, you're banned from the game, kicked out of the stadium and the surrounding area, and you'll face whatever fines or jail time the anti-riot laws and other statutes throw at you.

Section 31.a
(1) Anyone caught brawling or attacking other fans, security, officials, athletes, or anyone else while traveling to or from the game—or during the game itself—is looking at three months to three years in prison just for being part of the fight...
Anthony Barrett37 Anthony Barrett37 Active Member
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#292 ·
The thing is, hooligans aren't just looking at fines anymore. They’re facing actual criminal charges now under those sports riot prevention laws.

124 milesI guess if you're out by the stadium, they file criminal reports based on fan control laws, but if someone's acting up in a luxury suite, they might just get hit with a misdemeanor for disturbing the peace... it's like there's a "higher goal" involved or something.
bluebear42 bluebear42 Newcomer
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#293 ·
Anthony Barrett37 said:The reality is that hooligans aren't just facing misdemeanor charges anymore; they’re looking at actual criminal records under the sports riot prevention laws.

124 milesIf you're out in the stands, you get hit with criminal filings under fan control laws, but if someone goes wild in a luxury suite, they just get slapped with a disorderly conduct citation... it's all about "higher priorities."

Don't be like that—you know how sensitive "Dad" can get.
John Martin18 John Martin18 Member
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#294 ·
Well, that's just how it goes. He’s one of them and we’re over here... but you know how it works with those laws where everyone is supposedly equal, yet some people are just "more equal" than others? 🤣
Nathan Foster23 Nathan Foster23 Active Member
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#295 ·
https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/...89327435_n.jpg

"The Department of Justice and US Soccer are rolling out new measures to crack down on unacceptable behavior in the stands as the club season winds down."

...
Nicole Jackson3 Nicole Jackson3 Active Member
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#296 ·
So, they’re going to shut down every single game where there's any insulting chanting, flares, or whatever? Can't wait! 🍿
Aaron Richardson7 Aaron Richardson7 Newcomer
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#297 ·
Hold on, what if Mickey actually bans you guys from cheering or lighting flares?

I mean, you pay good money for game tickets, yet you can't even figure out a train ride to $20 because things are a mess over in Cambodia...

Still, you gotta give Mickey some credit, and honestly, I don't see anything stopping you in this league anyway.
gentlemarlin102 gentlemarlin102 Active Member
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#298 ·
Jacob Newman74 said:Oh yeah, so they’re just gonna shut down every single game where there’s some trash talk or flares? Can't wait! 🍿

Fine, go ahead and cancel the Cup then, just so the Boys don't get blamed for once. 😍
Nicole Jackson3 Nicole Jackson3 Active Member
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#299 ·
Aaron Richardson7 said:Hold on, what if Mickey bans you from shouting and lighting flares?

Even if a guy pays for your game tickets, and getting a train to $20 in Cambodia is a total nightmare...

We should still give Mickey some credit, and honestly, I don't see what's bothering you guys about this league?!

If Mickey tells us to stop shouting and lighting flares, then we’ll just stop. I don't see any problem with that.

If Mickey wants to pay for our tickets, let him. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Doolittle sorted out the train to $27, but even if it were Mickey, who cares? I don't see an issue. Besides, in Cambodia, you can ride the train without any ticket at all, unless you're booking a sleeper car.

Go Mickey!! 👋
Mark Thompson2 Mark Thompson2 Member
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#300 ·
Aaron Richardson7 said:Hold on—what if Mickey bans you from shouting or setting off flares?

Even if someone pays for your game tickets, getting a train to $20 in Cambodia is apparently impossible...

Still, we should give Mickey some credit—besides, I don't see anything actually stopping you guys in this league.?!

So you think Mickey paid for the train... meanwhile, you've got six people in your group and get a 50% discount on tickets. Do the math on how much cheaper it is when 1,000 of you show up. Also, for Armada members and club fans, it’s $20, while everyone else pays $80 plus $30. I don't see the issue here.?!?
Or maybe you idiots from down south just love spitting on the river and the Ultras... you're just jealous.
They don't say it for nothing—the coast is a place where the water is clearer than the people living there. Go ahead, ban me, loser! 🙂🙂🙂

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