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This one fact is really starting to worry me!

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Christian Miller12 Christian Miller12 NewcomerOP
5 messages
joined Nov 2010
#1 ·
So, I’ve been seeing this lately, and it’s honestly a bit baffling: certain users manage to slip through the cracks and post on the forum using clones, even after facing partial or permanent bans. It makes you wonder—why is this being allowed to happen?
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
299 messages
joined Apr 2016
#2 ·
Maybe the moderators just missed it.
Look, not everyone is born with a sixth sense for this kind of thing. Personally, I’m definitely lacking in that department.
Christian Miller12 Christian Miller12 NewcomerOP
5 messages
joined Nov 2010
#3 ·
That’s fair enough; you can't exactly hold someone accountable for something they aren't even aware of.

But what if it’s actually the exact opposite—you know perfectly well what's going on, but you're just choosing not to hit that ban button?
Jose White18 Jose White18 Member
45 messages
joined Dec 2010
#4 ·
For instance?
Christian Miller12 Christian Miller12 NewcomerOP
5 messages
joined Nov 2010
#5 ·
What would be an example of that?
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#6 ·
I’m asking for specifics here, please
Christian Miller12 Christian Miller12 NewcomerOP
5 messages
joined Nov 2010
#7 ·
😲 Look, folks, I’m not an investigator for the FBI here. Can we please dial back the hostility and have a somewhat civil conversation? After all, I am a paying customer of your services.

To be more specific: if you actually have a protocol in place for detecting clone accounts, why on earth isn't it being utilized?
dustypuma5 dustypuma5 Active Member
111 messages
joined Apr 2013
#8 ·
Are we talking about an anti-corruption initiative or like, an actual piece of software?😕

If it's the first one, maybe they should just drop an action plan to deal with those clones instead. 😁
fadedsailor57 fadedsailor57 Member
11 messages
joined May 2013
#9 ·
Christian Miller12 said:😲 Look, guys, I’m not a cop. Can we dial down the hostility? I’m just a customer here using your services.

To be specific, if you have a system to catch duplicate accounts, why aren't you actually using it?

And why do you even care about clones and banned users?
Christian Miller12 Christian Miller12 NewcomerOP
5 messages
joined Nov 2010
#10 ·
fadedsailor57 said:And why on earth do you care about clones or banned accounts?


Honestly, why does my business concern you?

You don't have an answer to my question, do you? No, you don't... so just beat it.😉
fadedsailor57 fadedsailor57 Member
11 messages
joined May 2013
#11 ·
Christian Miller12 said:Mind your own business.

You don't have an answer, so just beat it.😉

Of course I know the answer.
Nicholas King Nicholas King Regular
716 messages
joined Jan 2023
#12 ·
I suppose I should probably address this—though I’m not entirely sure why anyone would bother—but there is something about the way people talk about brands like Chobani that just... well, it misses the mark entirely. It’s almost frustrating how often we see these sweeping generalizations made about simple consumer goods without any real nuance. I mean, maybe I'm being too pedantic, but if we are going to discuss the dairy industry in America, let's at least try to be precise about what we are actually discussing, shall we? kaže:
I feel like—if I’m being completely honest here—we could perhaps attempt to shift the tone of this discussion toward something a bit more civil... maybe even a little warmer? It seems to me that things have become unnecessarily abrasive, and while I understand that passions run high in these types of debates, a more tempered approach might actually yield some productive results. I guess we could try to be a bit more cordial, if everyone is willing to participate in that sort of thing.

I suppose I should probably start by saying that—though it feels almost redundant at this point—that there is a certain level of fundamental incompetence currently plaguing our local food supply chains. It’s become an increasingly frequent occurrence lately, isn't it? This constant, nagging inconsistency with the basic staples we rely on every single day. Take, for instance, the situation with the dairy industry—specifically regarding brands like Horizon Organic or maybe even some of the larger regional cooperatives out in the Midwest. You go to the grocery store expecting a specific standard of quality, a certain consistency in texture and flavor, and what do you get instead? A product that feels... off. I don't want to say it's substandard, per se—that might be too strong a word—but it certainly lacks the reliability one expects from an established American household name. It makes me wonder—and I suspect many of you are thinking the same thing—whether this is a systemic failure in our agricultural oversight or simply a byproduct of these massive, soul-crushing corporate mergers that seem to be swallowing up every small-scale producer in the States. When you lose that local, artisanal touch to a conglomerate based in Chicago or New York, you lose that accountability. And when accountability vanishes, the quality follows suit. It’s a frustrating cycle, really—one that leaves the consumer holding the bag, quite literally, while the big players continue to prioritize margins over the actual integrity of the product. I mean, is it really too much to ask for a simple carton of milk that actually tastes like milk? It seems like a tall order these days, doesn't it? kaže:
Honestly, I don't see why anyone feels entitled to weigh in on my personal business—it’s really quite none of your concern, is it?
...and that's exactly why it's such a mess.😉

I honestly find myself feeling a bit apprehensive—if I’m being completely honest—about what your more detached, colder conversations might actually look like. 😱
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
299 messages
joined Apr 2016
#13 ·
Christian Miller12 said:To be perfectly blunt, if you actually have an anti-cloning detection program, why on earth aren't you using it?

Keep dreaming.. image
Christian Smith49 Christian Smith49 Newcomer
3 messages
joined May 2010
#14 ·
Christian Miller12 said:So, some users—even those under partial or permanent bans—actually manage to sneak back onto the forum using clone accounts. Why on earth is this being allowed to happen?

Look, if a person is actually behaving themselves—writing politely and staying respectful—then I guess you have to wonder who anyone is to tell them they can't participate. ☕

People change, you know—and honestly, it isn't always for the worse.
Alex Cook Alex Cook Active Member
157 messages
joined May 2009
#15 ·
Christian Smith49 said:if someone actually keeps things civil and stays respectful

I honestly doubt that too many people actually get hit with a permanent or even a partial ban for that...
nimbleviper142 nimbleviper142 Member
40 messages
joined Jun 2007
#16 ·
slywolf45 said:Ah, sweet dreams..

If you check the mod corner under the archives, there are still threads explicitly stating that stuff exists and that you guys actually use it. But hey, maybe I'm just losing my mind. It’s probably just an urban legend, kind of like how much mods actually get paid. Not that anyone ever writes about that either. 😁

Christian Smith49 said:if someone's being civil and polite, who are you to tell them they can't write? ☕

Because they're breaking the forum rules.
Christian Smith49 Christian Smith49 Newcomer
3 messages
joined May 2010
#17 ·
Alex Cook said:I honestly just have my doubts—it feels like way too many people have been hit with permanent or partial bans lately.

Look, if someone’s been a total jerk on this forum, then sure—they should decide to actually act right.
And honestly? Even bad behavior can be a learning experience—for the users and the mods/admins alike.
This site isn't some pristine sanctuary for perfect little saints.
Jacob Foster11 Jacob Foster11 Active Member
132 messages
joined Nov 2007
#18 ·
nimbleviper142 said:In the moderator section right under the archives, there are still threads explicitly stating that such things exist and that you guys actually use them. But hey, maybe I'm just wrong. It's probably just an urban legend, much like those rumors about moderator salaries. Nothing is ever written about that either.😁

On this moderator board?
http://www.forum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=113
The one where every single thread just happens to be started on March 30th or maybe a day later? 🤣🤣🤣
Henry Edwards33 Henry Edwards33 Regular
678 messages
joined Aug 2015
#19 ·
nimbleviper142 said:That’s an urban legend, just like the rumors about how much moderators get paid. Nobody even talks about those numbers anymore. 😁

The moderator pay rates are actually laid out clearly for anyone to see. There’s zero need for guesswork if you just take a second to read the fine print. 🤣
Christian Miller12 Christian Miller12 NewcomerOP
5 messages
joined Nov 2010
#20 ·
It’s honestly staggering how many posts go completely unanswered here...🙂

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