2010 British GP - Silverstone (July 11)

mistybear87 said:Look, they’re pinching pennies just to grab a coffee, let alone anything else... (I'll get into why in a few posts down the line) 🤣🤣🤣🤣

There you have it, exactly what I was getting at 🤣🤣

Nicole Reyes97 said:Look, you're wrong again, honey. 🙂

It isn't even about bad karma anymore; the reality is that he has become completely unstable and unsure of himself, or whatever you want to call it, 🤷 unlike how Fernando Alonso would have handled a start a year ago—especially back in 2005 or 2006. I mean, what on earth happened to him? 🤣 He certainly wouldn't be gambling with his prestige like this, going all-in only to end up failing miserably. And honestly, I still don't grasp why they penalized them when both drivers were clearly fighting for the position, especially since Robert Kubica ended up dropping out later anyway. 🤷 You follow me? Something is fundamentally broken with him. Hot blood is the least of his worries; he's already drowning. 😉

So I'm wrong again, am I? 🤷

I think I know when I was mistaken last time... but I'd prefer if we kept this discussion at a somewhat serious level...

Everything is going to turn out fine with Zalons...

Don't you worry about it...

Does anyone happen to recall exactly what kind of penalty Lewis Hamilton received back in 2008 at Spa-Francorchamps? Was it a drive-through penalty, or did he just have to let Kimi Räikkönen back past him?

Nicole Reyes97 said:If you look back at his prime—especially 2005 and 2006—Fernando Alonso wouldn't have had such a mediocre start. I guess maybe he's just lost a bit of that edge? 🤣 And he definitely wouldn't have been taking those reckless risks just to overtake; he was basically driving on pure adrenaline and failing. Honestly, I don't really get why they penalized him either, since they were both clearly fighting for the spot, and besides, Robert Kubica ended up dropping out anyway🤷. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing after the start today—I can't remember the last time Alonso actually had a decent launch.😁

It feels like he’s just completely burnt out or something.😳

But this penalty? It's honestly a joke.🙄

cosmicridge5 said:The guy's clearly losing his mind, honestly. 😳

I mean, who wouldn't be after two races like that?
At this rate, I wouldn't even be surprised if he shows up to the next race with a handgun just to take everyone out when they pull another stunt like this.🙂

Arthur Doyle70 said:And regarding Webber and that "not bad for a number two driver" comment... 🤣🤣 🙏

Honestly, after that exchange with the pit wall, I think Webber gained another fan in me. First off, they congratulate him from the pit lane by saying, "You won the United States GP" instead of "We won the United States GP," and they say it with such a cold, detached tone. Man, even if Alonso were congratulating Hamilton on a win, he’d probably be warmer and more sincere than those folks at Red Bull.

It makes total sense why Webber lost his cool and snapped back like that. But honestly, the response from the pit wall was even worse—something along the lines of, "Do you think you could manage a smile?" 😲

To top it all off, none of the bosses even bother to show up on the podium to meet him.😠

That last little jab from them gave me the definitive answer as to why his own team can't stand him. Apparently, he just isn't photogenic enough to sell their ridiculous energy drink!

I'd almost bet that Red Bull would rather see Hamilton take the world title if they can't find a way to make sure it's Vettel. Their marketing "experts" clearly couldn't handle the idea of Webber snagging the first championship for Red Bull. He looks too much like a regular guy who enjoys a beer (being from Australia and all) rather than one of those high-strung meatheads who typically drink their red chemical concoction.

I just don't get why they bothered extending Webber's contract if they can't tolerate him. Did they seriously think he'd just settle down and quietly wait for retirement?

Douglas Parker61 said:Honestly, who wouldn't be livid after two races like those?
I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up to the next race carrying a handgun just so he can take everyone out when they pull another stunt like that.🙂

Yeah, instead of just waving his hands around like a maniac, he might as well just start shooting. 🙏 🤣🤣🤣

hollowhawk412 said:I guess I was wrong again 🤷
I think I know exactly when I messed up last time... but man, this debate is getting pretty intense...
Everything is gonna be fine with Zalonso...
Don't even sweat it...
Does anyone remember what kind of penalty Hamilton got back at Spa in 2008? Was it a drive-through or did he just have to let Kimi back past him...

Honestly, I don't know. It doesn't really feel like things are clicking for him right now. I'm crossing my fingers that he turns it around, but still... 🤔

Hamilton got hit with a 25-second penalty after the race back then 😉

driftingbison4 said:After that exchange with the pit wall, Weber gained another fan in me. First, they congratulate him from the pits by saying, "You won the United States GP" instead of "We won the United States GP," and they say it with this incredibly cold tone. Honestly, Alonso would give Hamilton a warmer, more sincere congrats than those guys at Red Bull.

Naturally, Weber lost his cool and snapped back. And the response from the pit wall was even worse. Something along the lines of, "Do you think you could manage a smile?" 😲

Then, none of the bosses even bother to show up on the podium.😠

That last reply from them gave me the final answer as to why his own team can't stand him. Apparently, he isn't photogenic enough to sell their ridiculous energy drink!

I'd almost bet that Red Bull would rather see Hamilton be world champion if they can't somehow make it Vettel. Their marketing "experts" clearly couldn't handle the fact that Red Bull's first title went to Webber, simply because he looks more like a regular guy who drinks a beer (he is from Australia, after all) rather than some aggressive beast that typical consumers of their red chemical crave.

I just don't get why they extended Webber's contract if they can't stand him. Did they think he'd just settle down and wait for retirement?

Exactly.🙏
I feel for him; these idiots are screwing him over...

cosmicridge5 said:Yeah, I was actually thinking the exact same thing right after the lights went out—I honestly can’t remember the last time Alonso had a start that actually looked decent.😁

It feels like his nerves are just completely shot at this point😳

And man, this penalty is just absolute bottom-of-the-barrel nonsense.🙄

it’s honestly tragic, girl😢 when you think back to those days at Renault where he’d just launch from 5th on the grid and be sitting in P2 before they even hit the first turn... god, those were the days..

The penalty seems totally baseless to me too, but I don't even have the energy to argue about it because the Zalonso fans are just circling like vultures waiting for any excuse.🙄
and you can tell even he’s reached his breaking point—I mean, hearing him say everything is fine after the race and that we just have to respect the stewards' decision? that doesn't sound like the real Alonso at all. nooooooooot.☕

cosmicridge5 said:Looking at this race 🙏

Webber showed his true colors 🙏 That's how you squeeze a teammate and wreck your own team's chances. Bravo. 🙏 🤮

After that whole scandal, he goes and leaves him with zero space again today. Unbelievable. Just pure madness. 🙏 🤮

From here on out, I’d rather cheer for Hamilton to take the title than watch Webber 🙄

As for Zalonso and Kubik, Zalonso had nowhere to go. Where were the stewards looking?! This penalty and the way it played out is the joke of the season. 🤮 If he takes out half the officials and half the pit crews, I won't blame him one bit. ☕

Did I mention how nauseating this race has been?

🙂

You're right. Total disgrace from Webber. At this point, I'm rooting for Alonso or literally anyone else. There's just no point anymore...

Nicole Reyes97 said:I honestly can't say. I don't get the feeling that everything is quite right with him, though I suppose I'm holding out hope that things might turn around, even if I'm skeptical.. 🤔

Hamilton was slapped with a 25-second penalty right after the race 😉

Thanks for the trip down memory lane... clearly your gray matter is firing on all cylinders today 😉

hollowhawk412 said:If Red Bull loses this championship, they’re idiots. The car is a rocket ship,
they should've cruised to a few more wins...

Anyway, looking at the standings... doing the math, Zalonso could've easily been leading right now too. He dropped nearly 30 points in those last two races because of pure bad luck, and if you factor in his mistakes (like Monaco), Zalonso would be sitting at the top of the table easy.🙂

Zalonso is worse than Webber, Vettel, Horner, and the entire Red Bull crew combined.🤣

Was there a race today? 😲

driftingbison4 said:After that chat with the pit wall, Mark Webber gained another fan in me. First, they congratulate him from the box by saying, "You won the United States Grand Prix" instead of "We won the United States Grand Prix"—and they say it with such a cold tone, too. Honestly, Fernando Alonso would give Lewis Hamilton a warmer, more sincere congrats than those guys at Red Bull.

No wonder Webber lost his mind and snapped back like that. And the response from the pit wall is even worse. Something along the lines of, "Do you think you could manage a smile?" 😲

And then, not a single boss even bothers to show up on the podium.😠

That last reply from them gives me the definitive answer as to why Webber’s own team can't stand him. Apparently, he isn't photogenic enough to sell their stupid energy drink!

I’d almost bet that Red Bull would rather see Hamilton become world champion if they can't somehow force it to be Sebastian Vettel. Their marketing "experts" obviously couldn't handle the fact that Red Bull's first title went to Webber just because he looks more like a regular guy who drinks a beer (he's from Australia, after all) rather than some aggressive jerk that typical consumers of their red chemical sludge are.

I just don't get why they extended Webber's contract if they can't tolerate him. Did they really think he'd just calm down and wait for retirement?

Webber is a jerk and Red Bull should have kicked him to the curb already. Seriously, a driver who pushes his teammate off the track into the grass🙄 is an idiot no matter who it is, but when he does it to his own teammate—whom he’s already overtaken and has zero real chance of being beaten by—then he's a complete moron. Vettel is such a pushover; he doesn't realize what a tool this guy is. Instead of letting him pass or just crashing into him, he yields to the idiot at his own expense. What a pathetic team.

Old Grandpa, who's probably the dirtiest driver on the grid reputation-wise, pushes Vettel off the track during a duel, but he actually leaves him just enough room to stay on the asphalt without hitting the grass (okay, it's a damn millimeter, but there's space). He's showing how to drive. When you do that to a teammate, you're crazy, let alone pushing them off like Webber did. Right now, McLaren still has two drivers in P1 and P2 and is leading the constructors' championship—actually increasing their lead—all thanks to crazy Webber, Vettel struggling against a fool, and a totally incompetent team. They should have been leading MCM by at least 50 points in both drivers' and constructors' standings.

This season, Hamilton takes the title easily, unless Webber loses his head again and rams him. If that happens, Jenson Button wins. Everything else is a long shot.

stormybadger8 said:Mark Webber is a complete jerk who honestly deserved a kick in the teeth from Red Bull already. A driver pushing his own teammate off into the grass🙄 is an idiot regardless of who it is, but when he does it to a teammate he’s already overtaken—someone he has zero realistic chance of beating anyway—then he’s just a total moron.Vettel is such a pushover; I guess he doesn't realize what a clown Webber is. Instead of letting him go or just crashing into him, he yields to the idiot at his own expense. It's just ridiculous how that team operates.

If you push your teammate, you're not sane, let alone if you shove them off the track like Webber did. As things stand, McLaren still has both drivers in P1 and P2 and they've actually extended their lead in the constructors' championship, all thanks to the absolute madness from Webber.,Vettel is stuck fighting a fool while dealing with a completely incompetent crew. They really should have had at least a 50-point cushion over MCM in both drivers' and constructors' standings by now, especially given Red Bull's potential.

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I second everything said here, word for word.

If I were his boss, I probably would have lost it and hit him over the head with a trophy today just to make sure everyone saw what a disaster he was...

And the idiots on the team who just let it happen...

Jesus, my nerves are absolutely shot after watching this today.😬 It was definitely one of those races where I needed a heavy dose of tranquilizers; I'm still trying to recover from the sheer amount of stupidity and chaos.😁

Morgan Murphy7 said:Was there actually a race today? 😲

Yeah, there was, Vespa...

And that old Renault bucket of Robert Kubica's finally gave up the ghost. 👎 😁

That was an absolutely incredible race, seriously,

I'm genuinely happy for Mark Webber; I'm fully expecting him to snatch the lead in the championship standings at the next race 👍
Kamui Kobayashi 🙏 Rubens Barrichello
Nico Rosberg 🙏 Sebastian Vettel, Fernando Alonso
🙏
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Fernando Alonso 🙂

Honestly, those idiots... I’d be thrilled if they just fired the whole lot and replaced them with ☕. At least then Red Bull Racing might actually stand a chance at winning the Constructors' Championship, giving Mark Webber something real to brag about.

I said this ages ago: Sebastian Vettel should have just left them in the dust and bailed on Red Bull. The management there? Completely insane.

Everything just keeps getting better and better

🤣

Time for him to go fishing 🙂

With all this nonsense going on, I completely blanked on the fact that both Kamui 🙏 and Rubens 🙏

http://www.formula1.com/results/driver/2010/

Man, how Rubens started... he almost overtook his old man in the standings 🤣

And honestly, Kamui is doing a hell of a job holding onto 12th in that absolute wreck of a car. Seriously, props to him—he just keeps getting better. I’m really hoping he lands a decent ride next season 🙂