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Participants vividpilot47silvertiger11Arthur Kim74Alexander Cruz32ironbadger18neonfalcon45Richard Wilson4
vividpilot47 vividpilot47 MemberOP
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#1 ·
Hey everyone, I wanted to get your take on

why most American actors—especially the ones with prestigious degrees—act like they couldn't care less when they're in movies or soap operas...
they constantly use these weird, forced accents and pronunciations like they’re stuck in a theater production, and their biggest hero is Ernest Hemingway.
It’s bizarre because half of these people are incredible on stage, but once they step in front of a camera, it’s a total disaster!
If I were the director, I’d be losing my mind dealing with them. To make matters worse, half of these actors act so high-and-mighty, behaving like they're massive Hollywood A-listers when they really aren't.

I just don't get why it's like this. Or maybe I'm just seeing things (hopefully).
silvertiger11 silvertiger11 Active Member
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joined Jul 2016
#2 ·
Honestly, I can’t even remember the last time I sat down to watch an American movie or series.
I’m just completely exhausted by all these local actors constantly overacting everything. 🤷
Arthur Kim74 Arthur Kim74 Active Member
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#3 ·
Maybe it’s just because they focus so much on stage acting at those academies, but film acting is a whole different beast...🤷 I mean, you aren't even really projecting your voice or worrying about that precise theater diction when you're sitting in front of a camera like that...
Alexander Cruz32 Alexander Cruz32 Member
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#4 ·
Everything would be fine if we didn't have this ridiculous literary emphasis in everyday speech—like when you're just hanging out at a bar or walking down the street. For anyone with half a brain, a movie like that just isn't believable.
It’s like making a movie about guys in a Brooklyn ghetto and having the actors speak with perfect British accents, pronouncing every single word exactly like they pulled it straight out of Merriam-Webster.

One of the few bright spots in acting lately was Metastasis, though even that would've been way more convincing if the actors hadn't been trying so hard to sound "fancy."
As for those soap operas, don't even get me started. They're clearly just aiming for that crowd that sits glued to whatever's airing on NBC at 8:00 PM, whether it's some cheap drama or a cheesy sitcom.
vividpilot47 vividpilot47 MemberOP
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#5 ·
Alexander Cruz32 said:Everything would be fine if they didn't insist on this stupid literary accent in street slang or at a bar. For anyone remotely sane, a movie like that just isn't believable.
It’s like watching a movie about Black kids in a Brooklyn ghetto where the actors speak with perfect British accents and pronounce every word exactly like the Merriam-Webster.

One of the few bright spots in acting was Metastasis, which would have been even better if the actors hadn't overacted so much.
Don't even waste my time talking about soap operas. They're clearly aiming for that audience that sits through whatever garbage is airing on NBC at 8:00 PM, whether it's some cheap drama or a cheesy sitcom.

You're right, but there's an issue—when they try to do trash talk or street slang, they still sound like they're performing in a theater. Street talk with perfect diction? 😁And once they start overacting, I'm out. :)
ironbadger18 ironbadger18 Newcomer
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#6 ·
Honestly, if you ask me, American movies are pretty rough. And don't even get me started on the TV shows... 🙂
neonfalcon45 neonfalcon45 Newcomer
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#7 ·
Bringing this topic back from the dead. This isn't just about how annoying and unwatchable American TV shows and movies have become. It’s also a failure of the acting academies. They clearly can't pick decent talent, and they barely even enroll anyone worth mentioning each year anyway.

First off, sorry if this gets long. 🙂 Second, I'm a total amateur here—just a viewer. I don't claim to know anything about getting into drama school. This is just my take on this whole "problem."

Basic rule: you have to separate stage actors from TV actors. They aren't the same thing. Sure, a theater actor might make it on screen, but that takes actual skill. Usually, though, those theater types stick out like a sore thumb on TV. They overact, their diction is weird, and they look totally fake.

Second thing—someone needs to realize that academy auditions aren't a fashion casting call. Not every actress needs to have a cute nose, perfect hair, long legs, and a tiny waist. Look, looks help sometimes, but ONLY if there's talent behind them. That’s clearly not happening based on the crap we see on screen lately. Most young actresses around here can't transform at all. They play the exact same character in every single show. It’s hard to explain, but they look fine, but they should be models instead of actors. One in ten actually has a hint of talent. I'm begging the drama academies to stop picking people based on looks and start looking for talent, because they've already missed a massive wave of gifted kids. 🙂

As for the guys, I don't even know what to say. I can't name a single one who has the potential of someone like a classic Hollywood legend or those old-school greats who were just raw, natural talent back in the day. 🙂 I honestly have no clue who's letting these guys into the academies or how they even graduate. And look, forgive me, but seeing guys like some of these modern leads is depressing. Their acting is terrible. Honestly, someone you'd pick up off the street would probably give a better performance. I just don't get who's choosing these people or handing out diplomas.

The saddest part? I'm convinced there are talented people in those schools we'll never hear from, while these mediocre faces are shoved down our throats on TV as "stars."

One last thing—shows like *Band of Brothers* or *The Wire* had production value we could be proud of. But when you look at the costume design and set dressing in some of our recent stuff, it's a joke. In some period pieces, they use stuff that doesn't even belong in that era, or a show meant to be set in the 90s looks like it's sliding into the 21st century with the clothes and everything else. 😕:
Who hired those costume designers? Where did they learn their craft if they don't know the absolute basics? And are the producers who hired them aware they're basically throwing money down the drain for zero results?

I'm ending this hoping things change. We have the talent, but everything in this country seems to be rotting. Our TV and film industry is still stuck at an amateur level, trying to pass itself off as high art. ☕

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Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#8 ·
The accents are a real mess.
Even those mobster characters talked like that.

Since those shows aired in neighboring countries, it kind of created this stereotype that Americans are all soft.

Metastasis isn't quite there, but they overdo it in other ways—the characters feel totally surreal.

Movies from across the border usually have leads who talk and act like actual human beings. They aren't theater-kid gangsters or caricatures like our stuff...

PS
Saving Private Ryan actually has realistic characters for a war movie.
neonfalcon45 neonfalcon45 Newcomer
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#9 ·
Excuse me, but I don't even know who’s writing this stuff. It sounds fake. Some sentences are just straight-up useless filler, making everything feel artificial even when they're stating the most obvious banalities imaginable. 😕
And people love to caricature Southern accents, pushing them way too far. It makes it look like Northerners are all sophisticated elites with perfect diction, while Southerners are just uneducated folks throwing around curses because they haven't cracked a book in decades. ☕
neonfalcon45 neonfalcon45 Newcomer
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#10 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:American movies have leads who actually talk like real people and act like normal humans. They aren't over-the-top theater gangsters or cheap caricatures like we see back home...

Spot on. The dialogue and acting feel way more natural and relaxed, which gives everything an extra layer of realism. Probably explains why audiences gravitate toward those films more. Plus, they nail that laid-back humor—even when it gets dark. It just works. 👍

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