Slim Shady did the exact same thing, but I still got a warning

I actually got a warning for this post:

and then he just hits me with this massive rant in response to my one-liner:

so, I'm just thinking... either rowdyhawk10 gets a warning for his post too, or mine should probably be cleared...

honestly, it feels like a total misuse of moderator powers here...

it reminds me of back when I was a moderator over at Reddit—I almost got crucified just for posting a single smiley, right up until the higher-ups finally stepped in and gave me a pass...

either rowdyhawk10 gets a strike now, or let's just get mine removed...

anyway... ☕

Morgan Rodriguez57.
You’ve raised quite a few questions here, seemingly designed to justify banning minarets in Switzerland. For instance, you claim that "Islam is violent"... you even went as far as saying "mosques serve as training grounds for Islamic extremists"... along with several other accusations used to argue that minarets should be banned everywhere, not just in Switzerland. Some of you even pushed for bans on more than just minarets across Europe—which, frankly, borders on hate speech—and some suggested banning mosques entirely. One user even argued for the total abolition of Islam, claiming "it's never too late."

You also framed your question this way: "find me something in the Quran similar to what is in Jesus'..."... an attempt, I suppose, to suggest that "peaceful Christianity" is somehow superior to an "aggressive Islam."

If I had simply deleted your question, you probably would have claimed: "Here is rowdyhawk10, a Muslim who is bothered by my uncomfortable questions because he can't answer them," followed by something like, "rowdyhawk10 is abusing moderator powers to delete inconvenient questions he can't handle." Either way, it seems you would have been dissatisfied. 🤷

I temporarily locked the thread and noted that I would be removing off-topic comments. Regards.

If you just take a second to look back at what you actually wrote—honestly, just give it a quick read—you’ll see that you didn't even touch the post in question... you were busy talking about all these other things instead... 🙂

If my post is considered off-topic, then yours is too—so I’m really pushing the supermods and admins to make sure both posts get handled exactly the same way... just a fair shake for everyone... I don't want things being done according to that old "quod licet" Latin proverb logic where one rule applies to me but not to you... turns out fairness is actually a thing... anyway...

Morgan Rodriguez57, that was merely a yellow card—which, as you’re aware, doesn't actually carry any penalty points—intended only to suggest that such questions tend to derail the discussion. The topic at hand was specifically the Swiss referendum regarding the ban on minarets.

Perhaps we could find another time to debate whether the Quran or the Bible holds more merit. Does that work? Best regards.

Call it "just" whatever you want, I really don't care—I just want the same treatment everyone else gets, instead of seeing a moderator punish my actions while someone else's slip-ups go totally unaddressed...

It’s more about the principle of the thing for me... 🙂

Back in the day, I was the one getting targeted because I actually enforced the rules on the forums regarding nothing but smiley face posts—which, as a moderator myself, is exactly what I was supposed to do—but people didn't stop complaining until someone from upper management finally stepped in and handed out a formal warning...

So yeah, I'm looking for that same level of consistency here...

Just adding my two cents to this thread... regarding that one thing I mentioned before. It’s definitely not something anyone would want to go through.
Look, I don't know who it affects, but I ended up getting a warning. It wasn't from rowdyhawk10, though.
So, regarding the Uranium. Look, I get it. But honestly, my previous post was just taken out of context and used by rowdyhawk10 to... well, you know.
hate speech directed at Muslims 😕...with some pretty terrible accusations leveled against...
Me, and his little comment about how all this "hate" I’m getting is somehow my own fault. Like I only received "just, just, just..." because of it.
Yellow card. 🤦 Is it hate speech if I say that I find it absolutely nauseating when someone...
Who actually does this? Who leaves a mess in the bathroom like that? Honestly, I can't wrap my head around it. It doesn't matter who it is—if someone's doing it, they're just being inconsiderate.
Regardless of what someone believes or doesn't believe, I’d say the same thing: that... cultivate. But then again, that moderator...
It’s my expression. To cultivate. He used them to pull off some serious setups and twists, but which ones?
It’s like they think this should only apply to Muslims. I mean, what can I even say to that?

Then comes the ranting. The constant smear campaigns. Everyone gets labeled a fool or a fanatic just for having an opinion.
To the sick, the hypocrites, and those like them. After spending most of his time...
I'm getting hit with a red card in the off-topic and spam section just because I decided to reply.
Sorry if this is off-topic. I’m just asking him here on this thread—why did he delete my post?
I just got slapped with a one-day ban right out of nowhere. They even gave me a reason, too. On the topic of condemnation.
The moderator. Look, I messed up. Honestly, I didn't mean to call anyone out or try to play police officer here. That wasn't my intention at all.
So, I have a question. Of course, I asked this in the wrong spot—I should have gone to the Book of Complaints instead. But anyway...
They could have just deleted it like any other off-topic post. A one-day ban feels a bit much, honestly. 🤦

Then he just keeps going off on tangents, stirring the pot and looking for more trouble with everything he says.
Well, I guess you finally showed your true colors. Just sitting here, recounting the whole Satori thing—her version and mine.
He’s really making a case for his own arrangement. 🙄 Someone under the handle satori put out a warning that...
I’m about 90% sure I was just being offensive for the sake of it, and honestly, I ended up exposing myself in the process.

So, rowdyhawk10 is starting up again with the mockery, calling people out, and picking apart everyone on the forum.
The insults... yeah, they were all there. Of course, everything was wiped clean once the moderators "cleaned up" the thread, but still.
(visible to administrators and supermoderators). Speaking of my supposed "tolerance"...
Calling other people on this forum names—calling them idiots or mentally ill... it's just not right. It feels unnecessary. I don't really get why people feel the need to lash out like that. It’s better if we just keep things civil.

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rowdyhawk10:

When you look at those extremists and terrorists—the very people we’re all raising our voices against—they represent such a tiny fraction of the population. We're talking about less than one percent of the Muslim community, which consists of over a billion people worldwide. Standing against them is the other 99%... just regular, decent people who want peace and happiness for everyone. I think we've made that pretty clear right here on this forum, too. We've done our part to distance ourselves from the fools.

And while we’re on the subject, look at what’s happening right now, as we sit here typing this. Look at how fellow Christians in Iraq are being treated. You see them singing their hymns in what they call "Jesus' ecstasy"... but it's tragic. And I'm not just talking about the group of fanatics in that link—though we have plenty of those types right here on this forum, too—it’s the entire American machine. All these allied nations, acting under the pretense of a fake "war on terror" and searching for "Saddam's secret weapons," have been mobilized to launch an aggression against Iraq under this supposed "holy mission." At the top of that machine sits Bush and his inner circle. They all come from the same church. Even Adolf Hitler—based on his own documented words—claimed to be a devout Catholic. I mean, isn't even the symbol of Nazism shaped like a cross? Then you have Italy, which was essentially the cradle of fascism. For decades, European countries were colonizing Africa and Asia, and honestly, they still act that way. They carried out genocides across almost every continent. You only have to mention the Maya and Aztec civilizations, or what was done to the people of Latin America, to see it. Truly, there really isn't any other religion in human history where the followers have spilled as much blood, committed as much genocide, or caused as much violence as Christianity has. Even if you took every other religion in the world and put them on one side of a scale, and put Christianity on the other, the sheer scale of the crimes committed by its followers throughout history would still outweigh them all. It’s not just about what is written in the Bible; it’s about how people actually behave. So, honestly, it might be better to just stay quiet. You are the very last people who should be criticizing anyone else.
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It’s probably not our fault as Muslims that you guys aren't building churches, or that you aren't building enough of them. Even the ones you do have in places like Switzerland or Sweden... they sit empty seven days a week, except for Sunday mass. Muslims love their faith and stay dedicated to it. So, wherever there are thousands of us, we feel the need for a place of worship, and we build one. What's wrong with that? I think the reason you're building fewer churches is because you're gradually walking away from your faith... more and more... because eventually, you realize you don't really love it, or maybe you don't even need it. Going to church on Sunday has become more about tradition and habit than actual spirituality or devotion. More and more Christians see where this is heading and look for alternatives... Meanwhile, the word of Islam is alive, and the mosques are full, because we believe in God not out of custom or fashion, but because that's just what faith is. You shouldn't envy us for that; if anything, you should be critiquing yourselves more than ever. We won't trip you up; we'll just encourage you.

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That's why there was a referendum in Switzerland. It's democracy—you shouldn't get angry about it, right? You should cultivate it.

Oh, here comes our Christian sister in a new light... greeting us so warmly in the tea house.
Bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo! 👋
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as if they're actually allowed to build even the smallest Christian churches in Arabia EEK
So, should Switzerland start following their backward standards now?
Actually, they finally started... albeit with a small step.

Look. That isn't the point here. We are talking about civilizational achievements, and the topic is Switzerland and the recent referendum. The original post on the first page makes that clear. And we don't want this thread to shift in that direction (because we already have a thread for that).

And you don't need to keep repeating the same sentence; I think I've seen it at least five or ten times in this thread. Okay?
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Oh, here comes our Christian sister in a new light... greeting us so warmly in the tea house.
Bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo!

That little side comment about being a "Christian sister in a new light" says everything. I don't think I was
addressing you specifically, or any Muslim believer anywhere, including on this forum. So
I don't accept your "style" of conversation because I find it disgusting.

Yes, what's the problem? I offered a greeting and I will continue to do so, and just because I disagree
with the attacks by uncivilized people in major cities across Europe and the world, that is my right to an opinion.
Just like yours. But unlike yours, I don't disparage Islamic holy sites the way you do Catholic ones. So you've gone a bit too far, at least regarding me.
Besides, your previous posts say quite enough about the rage bubbling inside you.

What's the issue with me agreeing with the decisions made by the Swiss? It's their country
and they have every right to decide via referendum, just as they did. So what?
Are you going to try to lecture me on how to behave and how I call people out??? For what? And besides,
using the plural "we." Speak for yourself, because you're writing for yourself. You aren't a representative of a peaceful Islam,
at least that's not how I perceive you based on these posts. No matter how hard you try, you can't hide it,
your accusations against Catholics keep surfacing. And I am well aware of the insinuations
you use, so as far as I'm concerned, you can just keep on clapping. 👋 Halal. 😁

P.S. It would be more than helpful if you could tighten up your posts a bit, especially since you claim to be a believer.
If you can't see it for yourself, just take your notes to one of your spiritual leaders. Let them walk you through it.
What’s right and what isn’t... it's complicated. Honestly, you're just stirring up religious tension here, whether you want to admit that to yourself or not.
I’m not exactly seeing faith in what they do. If anything, I see the exact opposite—and honestly, more often than not, too. It's pretty disheartening.
It’s not really about "freedom of speech" anymore.
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Malevar... look, I’m sorry about that. I wasn't actually aiming that at you—it was directed at her. Honestly, if you read through her posts, they're just so full of hate. I just wanted to give her a bit of a reality check to make her stop and think. In medicine, there's this concept of a shock to the system to jumpstart healing. Sometimes a doctor has to be blunt with a patient to get through to them. So, please, don't take it personally. And just so you know—to answer your original question—I'm speaking to you from the heart here. They're trying to intimidate "us" because their whole goal is to drive a wedge between us. They see how much you crave the truth, and they'll do anything to make sure you don't like us. But believe me, all their efforts are just a waste of time. Best.
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That whole "Christian sister in a new light" thing says enough on its own. Honestly, I don't think I even need to say more.
You haven't reached out to me, and you certainly haven't spoken to a single Muslim anywhere—not even on this forum. So, I'm rejecting your "dialogue model." It’s honestly pretty disgusting.

Did you ever actually reach out to me or the Muslim community to explain why you're backing this essentially illegal, violent referendum and its disgraceful outcome? Because now, in Switzerland, it isn't just about banning minarets for those "uncultured people" you mentioned—it’s effectively targeting all Muslims. Even the ordinary people you claim to "greet" with respect. It looks like you’ve finally abandoned everything you stood for. All that talk about a culture of dialogue and mutual respect... it's all just gone down the drain.

As for me, looking at things from the Christian side, I’m not disputing anything that is genuinely good or worthwhile.

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Look, if I disagree with the outbursts from people lacking any sense of decency in major cities across America and around the world, that’s just my right to an opinion.

No, that’s not it. It isn't about banning minarets because of some perceived lack of culture. It’s about Muslims, period. Just... fundamentally. If you know what I mean. And honestly, the way you’re mocking this just gives you away. It really casts a shadow over those 2,800+ posts you've put on this forum. Believe me, you didn't even have to go that far.

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So, what’s the big deal? I said my prayers, and I’m going to keep saying them. Simple as that.

That’s all well and good, but if you aren't being sincere, eventually it shows. Just like it finally did with you. That last post gave you away. We might accept your greetings—we might even invite you out to dance!—but we won't be left with the bitter taste of a hypocritical greeting just because you chose to say it. When we offer a greeting, it comes from a place of genuine love. If we don't say it, then something simply isn't right.
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When you look at those extremists and terrorists—the very ones we’re all raising our voices against—they represent a tiny fraction of a percent. Even within a global population of over a billion Muslims, they are less than 1%. The overwhelming majority, well over 99%, are just regular, decent people who want peace and happiness for everyone. We've made that clear right here on this forum. As for the fools? We've already dealt with them and moved on.

Who actually proved that? And honestly, which idiots were they that you finally managed to get rid of and distance yourselves from?
Who actually got rid of them and pushed them away?

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Speaking of which, look at what’s happening right now. While you and I are sitting here typing this out, take a look at what some Christians over in Iraq are up to. You see them singing their hymns in that "Jesus-inspired" frenzy... but man, it's tragic. And honestly, it isn't just about the crowd of fools in that link. We have people acting exactly like that right here on this forum, too. Quite a few, actually.
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Who exactly are these "people"... you know, this "crowd of idiots" from the link... both on that site and right here on our own forum? What's the deal?
Are you even listening to yourself, man? You’re out here calling people idiots—by what right, exactly? Seriously.
Is someone actually moderating you with statements like that??? And then there are those remarks—"completely,
totally, absolutely... if you understand what those words mean"—directed right at me (I wasn't quoting, but they were in the previous
post). What kind of conversation level is that? In my book, that’s an automatic red card with at least 35 penalty points.

Honestly, you should just stay quiet because you're the LAST person who should be criticizing anyone else..
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Quiet before whom? Before you, making comments like that??? Your posts are
nothing but pure criticism, disparaging Catholicism and spreading hate. So
it would be wise if you took a moment to think about that.
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Did you ever actually address me or the Muslims because you support this essentially illegal and violent referendum and its shameful result? Because now in Switzerland, it isn't just "uncultured people" (as you put it) being banned from building minarets, but ALL MUSLIMS. Even the ordinary ones you "greet with a selam." So you've finally shown your true colors. All your talk of dialogue and respect... it's all falling apart.

As for me, on the other side, I don't dispute anything within Christianity that is truly good and worthy.

Regarding the "uncultured people," read my exchanges with Sofiapolis; that's what I mean when I say "uncultured." OK? And please, keep those angry outbursts of yours—the ones where you just want to pick fights and divide people—to yourself. It’s all falling apart, just like your supposed culture of dialogue and respect, which was visible in these posts and previous ones. A wolf changes its coat, but never its nature.

It's more than enough that you dispute and disparage the Cross, which is the greatest truth, even equating it to Nazi imagery in your last post. It's shameful.

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No, no. Minarets aren't banned for "uncultured people," they are banned for Muslims IN GENERAL, COMPLETELY, TOTALLY, ABSOLUTELY... if you know what those words mean. And your gloating (above) gives you away. It casts a shadow over your 2,800+ posts on this forum. And believe me, you didn't even need to write that.

The "shadow" belongs to you, so it won't stain my heart or my 2,800 posts, which
you probably envy. That's why you wrote that sentence about whether I should or shouldn't
have said something. From the very beginning, you've had it out for me, starting from my first entry
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That's nice, but if it isn't sincere, you'll eventually be exposed. Just as you finally have been. That post above revealed you. And we might accept your "selams" (maybe, we might even invite you to dance!)—but the bitterness of a hypocritical greeting doesn't stay in our mouths because you're the one who uttered it. When we say selam, it comes from sincere love. If we omit it, it means something is wrong.

Man, I have nothing to "reveal." I am who I am, and I write how I write.
I'm not acting, unlike how you are acting toward me here and before. And write for yourself, not
in the plural. When you give me a selam, it isn't a real selam, capisci? Because you don't have sincere
love for me; as for others, I don't know. It's just hypocrisy. Because in many
instances, you omitted it in our correspondence, which I pointed out to you.
So something really is wrong, but with you. I responded to you out of politeness anyway,
reminding you that I shouldn't have, since you didn't offer a selam, and the rules of etiquette forbid responding
to someone who doesn't offer one. Properly speaking.
But I did it anyway. And you see why. It's wonderful how you accuse me like this, so sincerely, just like
your true opinion of me. I grant you halaal and send you my selam.

Edit: rowdyhawk10, why was my post deleted and why did you give me a red card? Why is this being hidden?
Besides, I'm not gloating; I have a right to my opinion, and this is just an unfair provocation on your part.
I'll feel sorry for you because you've exposed yourself.
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You really showed your true colors after all.

Look, you're already in off-topic territory, so let's not clutter this thread any further. Honestly, the way you were gloating over those referendum results was just unfair and unkind, but whatever. Let's just move on. Let's give everyone else a chance to weigh in.
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You really showed your true colors after all.
Look, you're already in off-topic territory, so let's not clutter this thread any further. Honestly, the way you were gloating over those referendum results was just unfair and unkind, but whatever. Let's just move on. Let's give everyone else a chance to weigh in.

You spend about 90% of your time in off-topic threads, insulting people and acting like a know-it-all.
It's just that you act so arrogant because of your moderator status, deleting everything that doesn't suit you...

And then, while being super condescending and clearing out off-topic posts, you keep doing the same thing with this attitude of "I can do whatever I want because I'm a moderator."

Dear rowdyhawk10, you're actually the one who showed his true colors... I say that with a heavy heart.
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Okay, so now you're upset because I deleted your off-topic post (the one where you claimed to prefer atheism because "believers are full of hate") and later when Peter Stewart6 replied to that post, since what you were saying wasn't actually true. Both of those posts were definitely off-topic.

What I actually wrote was a response to a hateful outburst that equates Islam with the Inquisition while glorifying Christianity as something inherently peaceful. That's the post right here—me trying to prevent a biased and generalized image from being painted, which would then be used to cheer on the Swiss referendum in this thread, under the logic that "Islam is generally violent," so therefore "we, the peaceful Christians, have the right to ban minarets used for calling to jihad"... or as Morgan Rodriguez57 put it earlier, that "mosques truly serve as training grounds for radical Islamists..."... What else am I supposed to say to them?

I responded to that controversial post to point out that isn't how it works... I just offered a little reminder of history... that the Inquisition isn't the only thing on the conscience of those spitting on people like this; there's so much more from this century and the last (as I mentioned before). And then the off-topic chaos started (here comes my analysis of my own work). And naturally, every off-topic post will be wiped out, including my response, the second she reads it. Just like your post, and my reply to it.

Can we please just let the discussion continue, Satori?
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http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?t=501706&page=3
http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?t=501706&page=4

So, I am kindly asking the administrators to look into this and take action against
this particular moderator. Please apply the same standards used for all
other users on this forum, and strip him of the immunity he's managed to build up to
act however he wants without consequence. He told me days ago that I could file a complaint,
but that I'd need a lot of luck, and I won't go into the "categorization" of those
who complain. 🙄 It’s honestly sad. After I've spent so much time apologizing to this
moderator, overlooking his insults and belittling behavior, reaching
out, and being genuinely kind, he just gets emboldened, loses his temper, and starts this whole routine again.
Much like in Switzerland, I find myself wondering: where is the limit for my tolerance and the tolerance of other users on this site?

I also ask that you evaluate what truly constitutes hate speech and which side it's actually coming from in these instances.
This is actually the first time I’ve heard my posts being flagged for hate speech. And honestly, I’m not the only one getting that label on
this particular thread. It seems like I’m practically an expert at "hate" since apparently nobody can keep up with me—at least, that’s how
the moderator put it when talking to someone else who was also accused of "hate." 🙄

Thanks.

rowdyhawk10 is at it again—only this time it’s because the mods aren't doing their jobs properly, yet somehow I'm the one getting handed a ban for just trolling around... 🙂

"trolling (and calling out the mod mentioned above in the Book of Complaints)"

wait, what even is the Book of Complaints? 🙂

Morgan Rodriguez57 said:rowdyhawk10 is back at it again—this time because the mods aren't doing their jobs, yet somehow I'm the one getting slapped with a ban for "trolling"... 🙂

"Trolling (and calling out the moderators right above the Book of Complaint)"

Wait, what even is the Book of Complaint? 🙂

The Book of Complaint—where you post all your questions, grievances, debates, or suggestions regarding moderation and the mod team—is located up there in the PDF:

It should be visible to you every single time you enter this sub-forum. It’s been sitting right there for months now...

You go there first... and if things can't be resolved there, then—and only then—do you come here.

Susan Brooks83 said:Regarding my previous post on this same thread... it was about something that just wasn't pleasant to deal with...
Look, I don't care who it is, I still got hit with a warning. It wasn't even from rowdyhawk10, but...
Look, feralpilot0, fine. But that post of mine just got twisted by rowdyhawk10 to serve his own agenda...
Hate speech against Muslims... just some disgusting accusations being thrown around...
So he actually had the nerve to say that because of all this "hate," I only got "just, just, just..."... what a joke...
Yellow card... 🤦 Is it hate speech if I say it makes me sick when someone...
Who slaughters a sheep in their bathroom and leaves a massive mess behind? I mean, seriously... anyone would do that...
Whatever their religion or lack thereof, I’d say the same thing... Just cultivate it... But that damn moderator...
It's my expression... Just gotta cultivate it... He used it to pull some seriously shady stunts and twist everything out of shape...
So they think this should only apply to Muslims? What can I even say about that...

Then comes the whole rant... just straight-up trash-talking, calling everyone idiots or fanatics...
Sickos, hypocrites, and all that crap... after being mostly...
I get hit with a red card in off-topic and spam just because I posted a reply... unbelievable...
Satori, I know this is off-topic, but I'm asking you right here on this thread... why the hell did you delete my post?...
Just got slapped with a one-day ban right out of the gate... and they actually gave me a reason too... Just calling them out...
mod... My bad, I messed up. I wasn't actually trying to call anyone out or start a fight...
So, quick question. Of course I asked this in the wrong spot instead of on the Book of Complaint. My bad... anyway...
He could've just deleted it like any other off-topic post instead of hitting me with a day-long ban... facepalm...

Then he just keeps going with the off-topic nonsense, trying to bait people... just constant provocation...
Well, you finally showed your true colors... Just reliving all that Satori drama... hers and mine...
He’s totally pulling strings behind the scenes... 🙄 satori just dropped a warning that...
I'm basically 90% responsible for this whole mess... just out here offending everyone and digging my own grave...

So, rowdyhawk10 is starting up again with the mocking, the call-outs, and the whole "analyzing" everyone on the board... typical...
The insults... of course, they wiped all that out after the "thread cleanup," but still...
(Visible to admins and supermods). Speaking of my "tolerance"...
Calling people idiots and freaks on this forum... seriously? Just get a grip...

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Compared to those lunatics and terrorists we’re all calling out—who make up less than 1% of the billion-plus Muslim population—there's over 99% of us who are just normal people wanting peace and happiness for everyone. We proved that right here on this forum. And we finally kicked the idiots out...

And while we're on the subject, look at what they're doing right now, as we sit here typing this. Your fellow Christians in Iraq... just look at them singing their little hymns in some kind of "Christ-induced trance"... but man... it’s not just about the idiots in that link (and we've got plenty of those on this forum too)... it's the entire American machine. Every allied nation under the fake excuse of a "war on terror" or "Saddam's secret weapons" was mobilized to invade Iraq for that "holy mission." At the top of that machine sits Bush and his crew. All from the same church. Even Adolf Hitler claimed—and there's documentation to prove it—that he was a devout Catholic... I mean, even the symbol of Nazism is shaped like a cross, right? And fascism started in Italy... European nations were colonizing Africa and Asia just a few decades ago, and honestly, they still are. You guys carried out genocides on every single continent... just look at the Maya and Aztecs, or what was done to the people of Latin America. Seriously, there isn't a religion in human history where the followers have spilled as much blood, committed as much genocide, and caused as much violence... as Christianity. Even if you put every other religion together on one side of the scale and Christianity alone on the other, it would still outweigh them all based on the sheer level of crimes committed by its followers through history. It’s not just what’s written in the Bible, it’s what they actually do. So you might want to shut up, because you're the last people on Earth who get to criticize anyone else...
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It's not like we Muslims are to blame because you guys don't build churches, or don't build enough of them. Even the ones you have in places like Switzerland or Sweden... they just sit there empty seven days a week, except for Sunday mass. Muslims actually love their faith and stay devoted. Wherever there are thousands of us families, there’s a need for a place of worship, so we build one. What’s wrong with that? Honestly, I think you're building fewer churches because you're slowly walking away from your faith... more and more... because you finally realize you don't even like it, or maybe you don't even need it. Going to church on Sunday has become nothing more than a tradition or a habit, with zero actual spirituality or devotion left. More and more Christians see where this is headed and look for alternatives... Meanwhile, the Islamic word is alive and mosques are full, because we believe in God not out of habit or fashion, but because that's just how the faith is. Don't be jealous of us; instead, maybe you should start taking yourselves more seriously. We aren't here to trip you up, we'll just cheer you on...

Peter Stewart6 says: Check out the post
That's why there was that referendum in Switzerland. It's democracy, right? You shouldn't get mad at it, you should embrace it.

Oooo, look at our Christian sister reborn... giving us such a warm welcome at the tea party.
Bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo! 👋
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as if they can even build the smallest Christian churches in Arabia EEK
So should Switzerland start following those backward standards?
Actually, they finally started... even if it was just a small step.

Look. That's not the point here. We're talking about civilizational achievements and the Swiss referendum. Ego's post on the first page makes that clear. And we aren't letting this thread turn into that other topic (because we already have one for that)

And you don't need to keep repeating the exact same sentence, I think I've seen it at least five or ten times in this thread already. ok?
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Oooo, look at our Christian sister reborn... giving us such a warm welcome at the tea party.
Bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo!

That little "Christian sister reborn" comment says everything. I don't think I was
addressing you specifically, or any Muslim believer anywhere, including on this forum. So
I don't accept your "style" of conversation because it's disgusting.

Yeah, what's the problem? I said hello and I'll keep saying hello, and just because I don't agree
with the attacks by uncivilized people in major cities across Europe and the world, doesn't mean I can't have an opinion.
Same goes for yours. But unlike yours, I don't disparage Islamic holy sites the way you do Catholic ones. So you've gone a bit too far, at least regarding my small comments.
Besides, your previous posts say plenty about the rage you're boiling with.

What's the issue with me agreeing with the Swiss decisions? It's their country
and they have every right to decide via referendum just like they did. So what?
You're going to lecture me on my behavior and how I call people out??? For what? And besides
speaking in the plural. Speak for yourself, because you're only speaking for yourself. You aren't some representative of a peaceful Islam,
at least that's not how I see you based on these posts. No matter how hard you try, you can't hide it,
your accusations against Catholics keep bubbling up. And I know all your little insinuations
so you can just keep clapping for all I care. 👋 Halal. 😁

P.S. You really ought to clean up your posts if you’re gonna claim you’re a believer...
If you can't see it for yourself, just show your posts to some spiritual leader and let them walk you through it...
What's right and what isn't... you're just stirring up religious tension here, whether you want to admit it to yourself or not...
I’m not exactly reading their faith in these posts... it’s more like the exact opposite. And honestly, it happens way more often than I'd like to admit...
That's not even "freedom of speech" anymore...
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Look, Malevar... sorry about that, but I wasn't even talking to you, I was aiming at her... just read those hateful posts of hers... I just wanted to give her a reality check to snap her out of it. In medicine, they call it a shock treatment to wake someone up. A doctor's gotta slap some sense into a patient sometimes. So don't take it personally. And listen (to get back to your main point), I'm speaking straight from the heart here... they’re terrified of "us," because they want to drive a wedge between us. Your heart is searching for the truth, and they'll do anything to make sure you don't like us. But trust me, it's all for nothing. Peace.
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That whole "Christian sister in new clothing" crap says it all... I guess I don't even need to say more...
You didn't say a damn word to me, or even to a single Muslim anywhere, let alone on this forum. So you can take that "dialogue model" of yours and shove it... it's absolutely disgusting...

So you guys actually went after me and my fellow Muslims because you’re backing this totally illegal, violent referendum and its pathetic result? Now, thanks to you, it's not just about banning minarets from "uncultured people"—it's a ban on ALL Muslims in Switzerland. Even the regular folks you claim to "greet"... So I guess all that talk about "dialogue" and "respect" was just a load of crap...

Look, from my side, being a Christian... I'm not out here denying anything that's actually good or worth something...

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I don't care what anyone says about me hating on those lowlifes tearing up major US cities... it's my right to have an opinion...

No, no. It’s not about banning minarets because people lack manners... it’s about Muslims IN GENERAL, period. If you get what I'm saying... And all this mocking you're doing? It totally gives you away. You just dragged your entire 2,800+ post history through the mud. Honestly, you didn't even have to go that far...

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So what? Big deal. I said hello, and I’m gonna keep saying it...

That’s all well and good, but if you aren't being real, people are gonna see right through you eventually. Just like they finally did here. That last post totally blew your cover. We might even welcome your little greetings—maybe even invite you to the party!—but we aren't swallowing that fake, bitter crap you're dishing out. When we say hello, it actually comes from the heart. If we don't say it, then you know something's off...
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Look, compared to those lunatics and terrorists we’re all calling out—who make up less than 1% of that billion-plus Muslim population—there’s over 99% of us just regular, normal people who want peace and happiness for everyone. We proved that right here on this forum. And we finally got rid of the idiots...

Who actually proved that? And just how many idiots did you guys kick out to get here...
Who actually got rid of them and kicked them out...

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And while we're on the subject, look at what they’re up to right now, as we sit here typing this... your fellow Christians in Iraq (click). You see how beautifully they sing their little hymns in some sort of "Christ-induced trance"... but man... it's not just about the bunch of idiots in that link... (we've got plenty of those on this forum too, and way more than you think)...
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Who exactly are these "people"... you mean that bunch of idiots from the link... and on this forum too? man...
Are you even listening to yourself, man? Calling people idiots... who do you think you are? Seriously...
How is anyone letting you moderate with comments like that??? And then using phrases like "totally,
completely, absolutely... if you catch my drift" directed at me (I didn't quote you, but it was in your previous
post). What kind of conversation is that? In any other arena, I’d be getting a red card and a 35-point penalty for that crap.

So maybe just shut it, because you're the LAST person who gets to criticize anyone else..
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Shut up to whom? To you and your attitude??? Your posts are nothing but
pure criticism, bashing Catholicism and spreading hate. So
maybe take a second to actually think about it.
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Did you even address me or the Muslims because you're backing this basically illegal and violent referendum and its pathetic result? Because right now in America, it's not just "uncultured people" (as you put it) who aren't allowed to build minarets—it's ALL MUSLIMS. Even the regular ones you claim to "peace greet." So you finally showed your true colors. All that talk about dialogue and respect? Gone down the drain.

As for me, on the Christian side, I don't dispute anything that is truly good and worthy.

Regarding those "uncultured people," go read my thread exchange with Sofiapolis; that's what I mean when I say "uncultured." OK? And you can keep those angry outbursts to yourself if you're just looking for a fight. It’s all falling apart, just like your fake culture of dialogue and respect shown in these posts and before. A wolf changes its fur, but never its nature.

It's more than enough that you dispute and smear the Cross—the greatest truth—even comparing it to Nazis in your last post. Disgraceful.

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No, no. Minarets aren't banned for UNICULTURED PEOPLE, they're banned for Muslims IN GENERAL, TOTALLY, COMPLETELY, ABSOLUTELY.... if you know what I mean. And your gloating (above) gives you away. It casts a shadow over your 2800+ posts on this forum. And believe me, you didn't even need to write that.

The "shadow" is yours, so it won't stain my heart or my 2800 posts, which
you probably wish it would. That's why you wrote a sentence about whether I should or shouldn't
have said something. You've been targeting me from the jump, ever since my first entry
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That's nice, but if it isn't sincere, you'll eventually be exposed. Just like you were. That last post gave you away. We might accept your little peace greetings (maybe, we might even invite you to dance!)—but the bitterness of a hypocritical greeting doesn't stay in our mouths because you're the one who said it. When we offer a greeting, it comes from genuine love. If we leave it out, something is wrong.

Man, I have nothing to "expose." I am who I am, and I write how I write.
I'm not acting like you're acting right now. Speak for yourself, not
in the plural. When you give me a greeting, it isn't a real one, capisci? Because there's no genuine
love for me—as for others, who knows. Just hypocrisy. Because you left it out so many
times in our correspondence, and I called you out on it.
So something really is wrong, but with you. I only answered out of politeness,
reminding you that I shouldn't have, since the rules of etiquette say you shouldn't respond
to someone who doesn't offer the greeting first. Properly speaking.
But I did anyway. And you see why. It's wonderful how you accuse me like this, being so honest, just showing
exactly what your true opinion of me is. I grant you peace and send you my greeting.

Edit: rowdyhawk10, why was my post deleted and why did you give me a red card? Why hide it?
Besides, I'm not gloating; I have a right to my opinion, and this is just an unfair provocation on your part.
I'll just laugh it off because you've exposed yourself.
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You guys finally showed your true colors.

But look, we’re already off-topic, so let’s not keep spamming this thread. Honestly, the way you were acting over those referendum results was totally uncalled for and just plain rude, but whatever, moving on. Let's just let everyone else get their say.
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You guys finally showed your true colors.
But look, we’re already off-topic, so let’s not keep spamming this thread. Honestly, the way you were acting over those referendum results was totally uncalled for and just plain rude, but whatever, moving on. Let's just let everyone else get their say.

you spend 90% of your time in off-topic threads, insulting people and acting like a know-it-all
except you act all high and mighty from your mod position and delete everything that doesn't go your way...

and then after being all arrogant while deleting off-topic stuff, you keep doing the same thing with an attitude of "I can do whatever I want because I'm a mod"

dear rowdyhawk10, you're the one who showed your true colors... saying that with a heavy heart...
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Okay, so now you're pissed because I deleted your off-topic post (where you claimed you prefer atheism because "believers are full of hate") and later Peter Stewart6 replied to that post, since what you're saying isn't even true. Both of those posts were definitely off-topic.

What I actually wrote was a response to that hateful outburst where Islam is equated to the Inquisition while Christianity is glorified as something peaceful. That's the post right here—so they can present one biased and generalizing image that serves as a basis to cheer for the Swiss referendum in this thread, because "Islam is inherently violent," so therefore "we, the peaceful Christians, have the right to ban minarets used for calls to jihad"... or whatever nonsense Morgan Rodriguez57 throws out about how "mosques truly serve as training grounds for radical Islamists..."... What else am I supposed to say to them?

I responded to that controversial post to say that's just not how it is... I briefly pointed out some history... reminding them that it wasn't just the Inquisition that left a mark on those who spit like this, but plenty of things in this and the last century (as I wrote there). And then a wave of off-topic nonsense hit (here's my work analyzed). And of course, every off-topic post will be deleted, including my reply, as soon as she reads it. Just like your post, and my response to it.

Can we please just let the discussion continue, Satori?
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http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?t=501706&page=3
http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?t=501706&page=4

So, I'm asking the admins nicely to look into this and take action against
this particular moderator. Use the same standards applied to all
forum users, and strip him of the immunity he's built up that lets him
do whatever he wants according to the Book of Complaint PDF. He told me days ago that I could file a complaint,
but that I'd need a lot of luck, and I won't go further into his "categorization" of those
who complain. 🙄 It's pathetic. After I've spent so much time forgiving this
mod, overlooking his insults and belittling, reaching out
with an olive branch and actual kindness, he gets cocky, loses his cool, and starts this whole routine again.
Just like in Switzerland, I wonder how long the tolerance of myself and the other users on this PDF will last?

Also, I'm asking for a real assessment of what actually constitutes hate speech and which side it's coming from in these cases.
First time I'm hearing my posts are flagged for hate speech. And I'm clearly not the only one getting hit with that label on
this thread. Honestly, apparently I'm such a pro at "hate" that nobody can even keep up with me, or at least that's what
the moderator told some other person he was also calling out for "hate." 🙄

Thanks.

Bro, you really think anyone’s actually reading this?🙏🙏🙏

So I get hit with a warning for making a sarcastic post in all caps, just because some mod thought I was being aggressive.
gg

Morgan Rodriguez57 said:rowdyhawk10 is at it again. This time it’s because the mods aren't doing their jobs, yet somehow I'm the one getting a warning for trolling... 🙂

"Trolling (and calling out the moderators above the Book of Complaint)"

Yeah, it's very similar to what happened to me. For instance, regarding this specific text where I was responding to his
really ugly writing—which was basically just tempting and provoking believers—I was punished with a
7-day ban that just expired today. All because of "calling out the moderators on the
thread"! 🙄 I can't even post in the banned users section because the option isn't enabled for me.
I have no idea why.

It would be really helpful if the admins actually read his posts across various
threads so they could see how he targets other users. Especially when he doesn't like
a Catholic presenting an argued case. He starts this cynical taunting, waving around
mod powers like a weapon, using bans or warnings as revenge. Just because "His Majesty"
dared to criticize him, or rather, the text he wrote.

Yet rowdyhawk10 is allowed to do it, hiding behind the rules to justify being rude.
He even admitted to "slapping users in the face" when they complain about the DNC,
saying they act "as if they're going to Clinton instead of the police, or the Book of Complaint PDF." What am I supposed to read in the Book of Complaint?
Over and over again, it's the same thing. It's the same old story, two mods in a row, we all know which ones. ☕

Well, here comes yet another complaint regarding rowdyhawk10...

The whole thing started over in the Politics section, but then it got moved over to Religion—right into rowdyhawk10's hands... He just couldn't wait to take a thread that followed all the political guidelines and suddenly start applying religious rules instead, just so he could hand me another trolling strike...

Look, rowdyhawk10, you could have easily just deleted that post if it was actually bothering you so much, but nope—you just waited for the perfect moment to pile another trolling strike on my record...

Hey admins, supermods—I really don't think it's fair that the second a thread gets moved, the criteria shift so strictly from one section to the other... I'm asking that this strike be removed... thanks...

rowdyhawk10 just keeps going with the harassment—it's like he literally can't help himself from handing out trolling bans, and honestly, they're totally unjustified this time...

In that thread, I actually wrote this this post, where I was explaining how Pontius Pilate was a completely different kind of guy than what you see in the Bible...

But then kom1 comes at me with insults and this weirdly twisted claim that I’m arguing Pilate *is* the guy from the Bible (check this post):

I've already warned you not to talk to me in such a rude, trolling manner. You're just like Epignosis and a few others—a religious fanatic who doesn't even belong in this discussion. On top of that, you've seemingly made it your life's mission to tear down my writing.

The thing is—the real issue here is that you just don't know how to have a rational conversation. Your post is so illogical... First, you paint Pilate as this figure described by other historical writers, yet you seem unable to realize that Pilate's actual character differs significantly from the Biblical descriptions. See, in those other accounts, Pilate always acts in a way where he deals with the Sanhedrin strictly through force. So, it stands to reason that the Pilate in the Bible is a bit of a fabrication, because you just can't imagine the Pilate found in the writings of Joseph or Philon engaging in debates with the Sanhedrin like that.

But anyway, like I said, there's really no point trying to argue with you.

For this particular post, kom1 actually deserved the trolling ban he got from feralpilot0...

I'm responding to that specific post with this post regarding the actual content:

It's obvious you don't know how to read properly since you're just writing whatever comes to mind fueled by emotion... I'm saying Pilate isn't the man from the Bible, but rather a bloodthirsty savage who kills over the slightest provocation... but you, much like the Bible itself, are constructing a fictional Pilate who wouldn't condemn Jesus unless he were seen as a Zealot or a rebel... whereas I say he would...

And then rowdyhawk10 just swoops in and hands me a trolling ban that is completely uncalled for...

So, I'm calling on the admins and supermods to please remove this unfair ban and maybe look into protecting me from rowdyhawk10's constant badgering... I've picked up three trolling bans from him now because he just can't resist tagging almost every single one of my posts... He even gave me one once for moving a thread from politics to religion, though he did end up pulling that one later—maybe he finally realized he went a little too far himself...

Well, in most other cases, he isn't able to do that, so I'm just asking the admins and supermods to step in and keep things orderly...

Thanks in advance...

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Like I mentioned in our private messages, there’s a fundamental disagreement here: what you label as "falsehoods," he views as absolute truths. To be fair, kom1 is an incredibly mild-mannered guy; his only real offense is taking an anthropological approach that seems to rub you the wrong way. It feels like you expect me to report him just because he isn't adhering to your specific standards of truth—which, I suppose, means writing strictly from a Catholic worldview. It almost seems as though you want the freedom to insult him without any moderation, simply because his perspective doesn't align with your version of "the truth."

I suppose it was only fair that kom1 received a penalty from feralpilot0 for insulting you. Honestly, I might have even rated him higher than a 45, given how heavy those insults were. Then again, you were essentially giving him similar energy right back earlier. popularly Below his cartoonish post. And even before that. Well, man, you... You just won't stop watching.I suppose that’s all there is to it. It applies to quite a few topics, not just this one that's currently causing a stir.It seems like you just can't stand him. Honestly, it’s more about his writing than anything else. You’ve been shadowing his every move for weeks, maybe even months now—it’s pretty obvious. I get that people with views like his aren't exactly popular, especially since he challenges church dogma using historical facts, scientific data, and anthropological perspectives, but just because you don't like him or what he has to say doesn't give you the right to insult him or troll him constantly.

Morgan Rodriguez57 said:😁 Obviously. I suppose you lack the capacity for reasonable reading. I suppose you're just letting your emotions get the better of you when you write like that.

This is just trolling, plain and simple, and this reply is nothing more than a reaction to his insults. If you take a moment to look at your own writing toward him—just looking back at your last few posts—you’ll see that your tone is consistently aggressive. I don't think I've ever seen you actually agree with him on anything. It feels like you're just relentlessly picking him apart from one thread to the next, and honestly, it's been going on for far too long. And that’s always the case with those anthropological threads he tends to start.That's why I actually think he’s somewhat right when he tells you:

kom1 said:It seems you have made it your mission to dismantle my writing.

To be honest, Morgan Rodriguez57, I haven't actually seen kom1 rushing around to attack, dispute, or deny anything you’ve written. Yet, somehow, you seem to show up in every single thread he posts in just to take him down. Even in that one controversial topic. I suppose I should mention Temu. He opened it. If you can't engage with him at an acceptable level, then perhaps it's best to simply ignore his posts and topics altogether. If you do choose to discuss things with him, I'd suggest following the forum rules. Should he direct any insults toward you, we will step in to protect you—just as we do for him.

One more thing I should probably mention to catch the administration's attention, since they’ve been called out—and that includes feralpilot0. In all the years since kom1 first registered back in December 2002, I honestly can’t recall a single instance where he was ever disrespectful to anyone. He’s an incredibly quiet, level-headed member of this community—the kind of guy who even his harshest critics tend to respect. To be fair, nobody has ever directed insults at him until you came along. He hasn't breathed a word of disrespect toward anyone else in these eight years. Looking back at how this whole mess started—which I was actually reading about just this evening—it seems he was practically baited into insulting you. Of course, that doesn't make his behavior okay, but it does shed some light on why you've been following him from one thread to the next. I guess the guy just finally hit his breaking point. 🤷

I suppose I find it unfair that he’s the only one receiving warnings during your little disputes—and it always seems to happen within threads HE starts, which clearly get under your skin. Meanwhile, you seem to dodge any penalties entirely, despite the fact that you’re practically breathing down his neck and occasionally trolling him. If I really wanted to, I could easily list dozens of examples here to prove it, but I just don't have the time right now. Still, if you insist, I suppose I could. 🙄 Best regards,

Whatever I sent his way wasn't trolling—honestly, you're just being way too biased and soft to see that—he was definitely trolling and being insulting...

It’s actually kind of sweet seeing how much you're singing his praises... really touching stuff, that love right there... you two can do whatever you want, but that doesn't change things for me. All I care about is getting fair and unbiased treatment from the mods, which clearly isn't happening here... It’s not my fault that user1 broke the rules by attacking me personally. He needs to learn that other people are allowed to have different opinions without turning every single thread he touches into his own personal blog... I'm not even sure if that's allowed under the rules...

It’s pretty interesting how feralpilot0 gave his post a warning, but mine didn't get one—instead, you waited forever just to hand me a warning myself... why does feralpilot0 think I don't deserve a strike, while you seem to think I do? 🙂

I'm not sure. You should probably check with her about that. 🤷
I am merely responding regarding my own actions. Best, 🙂

Morgan Rodriguez57 said:It’s funny how feralpilot0 gave his post a strike, yet mine went untouched—until you decided to come after me much later... why does feralpilot0 think I don't deserve a strike, while you clearly disagree? 🙂

He assumes it isn't trolling, just staying on topic—because apparently, you can't troll someone by explaining the controversial parts. 🙂

feralpilot0 said:I suppose the post isn't trolling, but rather on-topic, since you can't really troll just by attempting to explain a disputed point. 🙂

😁 It could be, provided they phrase it like this:

Morgan Rodriguez57 said:you clearly don't know how to read sensibly

When phrased that way, it could mean anything, including implying the subject is stupid. 🤷
And Morgan Rodriguez57 didn't actually specify what they meant. They simply stated that com1 "doesn't know how to read sensibly".

Morgan Rodriguez57,
with perhaps a bit more goodwill and caution (meaning, without the condescension), you might find a decent conversationalist in com-u1. 🙂 Best,

Hyperbole and nitpicking.

He can imply, insinuate, infer, or follow a line...
Anything can be stretched into an argument—but that isn't grounds for a ban, is it? Otherwise, you can never actually tell anyone they’ve misread a text without everyone walking on eggshells like a bunch of sensitive toddlers just to avoid a single misinterpreted letter.

rowdyhawk10 said:😁 Sure, if they phrase it like this:

With wording like that, it could mean pretty much anything—including implying the subject is just being dense... 🤷
And Morgan Rodriguez57 didn't actually specify what he meant by that. He just mentioned that Drew Reed6 doesn't know how to read critically.

Morgan Rodriguez57,
if you show just a little more goodwill and maybe a bit of caution (you know, without being dismissive), you could actually have a great conversation going with Drew Reed6 over on this board... 🙂 Best,

By doing this, you've basically shown why you shouldn't be a moderator—because that wasn't an insult, especially if you look at my whole sentence... a moderator is supposed to step in for direct insults, like calling someone names...

Post after post, you're showing a clear bias toward one specific user, so I'm asking you once again to just take down the warning. And if you won't, then I'll have to ask the site admin to handle it...