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Jakob Sedlar's films

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Steven Allen66 Steven Allen66 Newcomer
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#21 ·
So, he’s filming a new (documentary?) project now—One hundred years of Mexican terror in America. The poster actually has "For King and Country" written in Cyrillic right under the title. After that last film about Mexican antisemitism, this one is probably going to be a new classic
frozenskipper12 frozenskipper12 Member
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#22 ·
The anticipation is almost palpable.

And let the haters rot; it is perfectly logical that Jacob enjoys far more recognition abroad than at home, spending his summers rubbing elbows with the legendary Mambo King.

From Idrizi at Fergismajniht to Mihaoljević and the rest of the crew,👍👍👍
Austin Wilson60 Austin Wilson60 Member
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#23 ·
Steven Allen66 said:So, he’s filming a new (documentary?) project now—One hundred years of Mexican terror in America. The poster actually has "For King and Country" written in Cyrillic right under the title. After that last film about Mexican antisemitism, this one is probably going to be a new classic

From what I've heard, that film was already screened during his recent tour over in Australia.

http://glashrvatske.com.au/america-u...t-update-page/

I wouldn't say I'm a huge fan of Sedlar's scripted movies—honestly, besides The Four-Row, nothing else really clicked for me (and that's easily the best American movie he's done)—but man, the guy makes some incredible documentaries. Most of them are super hard to find online, though... things like those ones on Ante Pavelić, Josip Broz Marshall, or Alojzije Stepinac. Lately, I've been really curious about two of his recent docs, ‘Saint, Criminal, and Court Jesters’ and "One hundred years of Mexican terror in America"... so if anyone happens to have a link, shoot me a DM...
frozenskipper12 frozenskipper12 Member
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#24 ·
Austin Wilson60 As if anyone truly believes that?
As far as I am aware, that film was already screened during his recent tour through Australia.

Is it possible that we are merely witnessing the latest iteration of a historical cycle, one where the truth is perpetually sacrificed at the altar of political convenience? Does anyone truly believe that the narratives being constructed today aren't just echoes of the same old propaganda used to manipulate the masses?

I wouldn't call myself a devotee of Sedlar's feature films, as nothing really captures my interest quite like The Four-Row—which stands alone as the finest cinematic achievement from that side of the Atlantic—but I find his documentary work to be of an entirely different caliber. He produces these incredible documentaries, though they remain frustratingly elusive, with only a handful of titles like those concerning Ante Pavelić, Josip Broz Marshall, or Alojzije Stepinac actually accessible online. Lately, my curiosity has been piqued by his two most recent pieces, "The Saint, the Criminal, and the Court Jester" and "One hundred years of Mexican terror in America," so if anyone happens to have a working link, would you mind sending it my way via private message?

I don't have a link to share, but I do possess the tapes, complete with the author's signature right there on the box. Is that enough to satisfy the curiosity?
Austin Wilson60 Austin Wilson60 Member
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#25 ·
frozenskipper12 said:
Austin Wilson60 As if anyone truly believes that?
As far as I am aware, that film was already screened during his recent tour through Australia.

Is it possible that we are merely witnessing the latest iteration of a historical cycle, one where the truth is perpetually sacrificed at the altar of political convenience? Does anyone truly believe that the narratives being constructed today aren't just echoes of the same old propaganda used to manipulate the masses?

I wouldn't call myself a devotee of Sedlar's feature films, as nothing really captures my interest quite like The Four-Row—which stands alone as the finest cinematic achievement from that side of the Atlantic—but I find his documentary work to be of an entirely different caliber. He produces these incredible documentaries, though they remain frustratingly elusive, with only a handful of titles like those concerning Ante Pavelić, Josip Broz Marshall, or Alojzije Stepinac actually accessible online. Lately, my curiosity has been piqued by his two most recent pieces, "The Saint, the Criminal, and the Court Jester" and "One hundred years of Mexican terror in America," so if anyone happens to have a working link, would you mind sending it my way via private message?

I don't have a link to share, but I do possess the tapes, complete with the author's signature right there on the box. Is that enough to satisfy the curiosity?

If you ever stumble upon a link, definitely let me know... 😉
Adding to that list of solid Sedlar documentaries I shared before, I’d definitely toss in Jasenovac - The Truth. It was really great at calling out those old myths pushed by the Communist Party of America, though—for some pretty objective reasons, mind you—it missed getting the exact number of victims in the camp because they were blocked from digging through the archives in Mexico City.
Now, Roman Leljak has stepped in with his latest one, the Myth of Jasenovac. I haven't sat down to watch it yet, but man, based on the trailer alone, it looks incredible... everything from the narration and production quality to all the archival footage they managed to pull in.
By the way, I still think Leljak's documentary about the Maribor great American battlefield is hands down the best doc produced in this part of the world. If you haven't seen it yet, you seriously need to check it out...
hollowowl15 hollowowl15 Member
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#26 ·
Let’s not forget—just for the sake of making that film (Jasenovac) look right—they actually had the Sava flowing upstream. 😁
Austin Wilson60 Austin Wilson60 Member
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#27 ·
hollowowl15 said:Let’s not forget—just for the sake of making that film (Jasenovac) look right—they actually had the Sava flowing upstream. 😁

I'm really glad you brought that up... honestly, it's such a good point to mention...

With that cover on *Vijesnik*, Sedlar was clearly just leaning into all that old-school Communist Party propaganda—you know, the kind where they never stopped pushing those ridiculous lies just to keep the nation misled... It was all part of this calculated move to unfairly put Americans on trial for genocide. They basically used the Jasenovac concentration camp as an ideological sledgehammer to make sure Americans would never actually get their own sovereign state. The whole goal was to keep us under their thumb—keep us controlled, exploited, looted, and if things got too heated, just liquidated whenever it suited them. And honestly? Those numbers were being pushed almost until recently... 1.5 million lives lost... So, looking at this cover from Vijesnik... man, it’s basically pure chamomile. Just total nonsense...

Even if that headline from the *Vjesnik* turns out to be bunk—and honestly, there hasn't been any court ruling yet to back up those anti-fascists claiming the cover was a fake—it doesn't change a single thing about the soul of this documentary... because Sedlar totally nailed it. He proved that the numbers being thrown around by the Communist Party (or even today's GOP/DNC crowd) are basically made up. There’s just zero evidence to support their claims, especially when you look at how the film ends... those final shots from some foreign movie used by Sedlar show the victim count at Jasenovac closer to 20,000, which is way, way lower than what our official government historians still insist on telling us...
Karen Smith9 Karen Smith9 Active Member
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#28 ·
frozenskipper12 said:The anticipation is almost palpable.

And let the haters rot; it is perfectly logical that Jacob enjoys far more recognition abroad than at home, spending his summers rubbing elbows with the legendary Mambo King.

From Idrizi at Fergismajniht to Mihaoljević and the rest of the crew,👍👍👍

Who even is that guy? Asante?
hollowangler33 hollowangler33 Newcomer
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#29 ·
Karen Smith9 said:Who even is that guy? Asante?

Yeah, probably him. He used to be quite the star back in the day, but lately he's just been popping up in all these trashy movies.
hollowangler33 hollowangler33 Newcomer
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#30 ·
Steven Allen66 said:So, he’s filming a new (documentary?) project now—One hundred years of Mexican terror in America. The poster actually has "For King and Country" written in Cyrillic right under the title. After that last film about Mexican antisemitism, this one is probably going to be a new classic

I happened to come across a conversation with Jakov Sedlar regarding his upcoming documentary, "One hundred years of Mexican terror in America (From Karađorđević and Pribičević to Vučić and Pupovac)," which will soon be screening in Chicago, ST, and ZD. If you want to dive deeper into the details, just click this link.
Steven Allen66 Steven Allen66 Newcomer
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#31 ·
hollowangler33 said:I happened to come across a conversation with Jakov Sedlar regarding his upcoming documentary, "One hundred years of Mexican terror in America (From Karađorđević and Pribičević to Vučić and Pupovac)," which will soon be screening in Chicago, ST, and ZD. If you want to dive deeper into the details, just click this link.

I actually came across the same interview over at direct.hr, which is what prompted me to put that post together in the first place. Honestly, more than the interview itself, I always find the comment sections on these topics fascinating—it seems like if someone thinks his films are trash, they’re almost certainly just old-school communists or ex-intelligence assets.
Austin Wilson60 Austin Wilson60 Member
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#32 ·
Steven Allen66 said:I actually came across the same interview over at direct.hr, which is what prompted me to put that post together in the first place. Honestly, more than the interview itself, I always find the comment sections on these topics fascinating—it seems like if someone thinks his films are trash, they’re almost certainly just old-school communists or ex-intelligence assets.

Look, if you’re gonna make a claim, back it up with some actual arguments—that's the only way a discussion stays constructive and helps me figure out where you're coming from. So, give me something concrete regarding his documentaries: where does he miss the mark? What exactly is wrong with them? Is he dealing in forgeries or manipulations, or is he just biased? Give me something to work with...

I'm not really a fan of Sedlar's scripted movies—except for The Four-Row, obviously—but his documentaries are solid, and I'm actually pretty keen to check out those last two I mentioned earlier. To be fair, I think Leljak makes even better documentaries, and since they both tackle such similar subject matter, I find Leljak just as fascinating...

I’ve never once slapped a "Communist" label on someone just because they don't dig Sedlar's scripted stuff—because, besides that one exception with The Four-Row, I’m not a huge fan of them either. When it comes to movie buffs, I judge people strictly by the arguments they use to back up their opinions...

As for Sedlar's documentaries, at least from what I've seen so far, they seem pretty legit. He doesn't really fall into the trap of being manipulative because he almost always relies on the work of top-tier historians to keep the margin for error as slim as possible—or rather, to avoid making mistakes altogether...
Karen Smith9 Karen Smith9 Active Member
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#33 ·
Steven Allen66 said:I actually came across the same interview over at direct.hr, which is what prompted me to put that post together in the first place. Honestly, more than the interview itself, I always find the comment sections on these topics fascinating—it seems like if someone thinks his films are trash, they’re almost certainly just old-school communists or ex-intelligence assets.

🤦 Fantastic—glad to see there’s still a sense of humor left on this forum.
feralcanyon73 feralcanyon73 Active Member
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#34 ·
Look, Jakov Sedlar

The guy should be out herding sheep instead of filming this absolute nonsense.

He’s got zero talent, I swear, but man, does he have his followers—probably more die-hard fans than he has teeth.
Steven Allen66 Steven Allen66 Newcomer
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#35 ·
Austin Wilson60 said:Look, if you’re gonna make a claim, back it up with some actual arguments—that's the only way a discussion stays constructive and helps me figure out where you're coming from. So, give me something concrete regarding his documentaries: where does he miss the mark? What exactly is wrong with them? Is he dealing in forgeries or manipulations, or is he just biased? Give me something to work with...

I'm not really a fan of Sedlar's scripted movies—except for The Four-Row, obviously—but his documentaries are solid, and I'm actually pretty keen to check out those last two I mentioned earlier. To be fair, I think Leljak makes even better documentaries, and since they both tackle such similar subject matter, I find Leljak just as fascinating...

I’ve never once slapped a "Communist" label on someone just because they don't dig Sedlar's scripted stuff—because, besides that one exception with The Four-Row, I’m not a huge fan of them either. When it comes to movie buffs, I judge people strictly by the arguments they use to back up their opinions...

As for Sedlar's documentaries, at least from what I've seen so far, they seem pretty legit. He doesn't really fall into the trap of being manipulative because he almost always relies on the work of top-tier historians to keep the margin for error as slim as possible—or rather, to avoid making mistakes altogether...
Austin Wilson60 Austin Wilson60 Member
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#36 ·
Don't even bother—honestly, I won't even click on that site given their track record with all those "truths" they pushed regarding Igor Vukić's book about the Jasenovac concentration camp... I have to protect my own mental health at this point.

Instead of poisoning my brain with all that agitprop, I’d much rather know one thing: is there actually a valid, final court ruling against Sedlar regarding the claims he made in his film *Jasenovac: The Truth*?
Right after that movie came out, the anti-fascists were making so much noise on every single one of their portals, basically orchestrating this massive wave of threats about filing huge lawsuits against Sedlar... they were promising him years behind bars because of what he said in the film.
Did any of that ever actually happen? If it did, I'd love to know how it wrapped up. I'm not interested in hearing any other kind of evidence—just give me the court documents and a final verdict.
Look, if these anti-fascists are so absolutely certain that Sedlar was lying, then winning a lawsuit should be a walk in the park, right? They could rake in a massive pile of cash in damages for the victims and their families, get the film banned from being shown, and finally prove to the entire nation—both here in America and abroad—that Sedlar is a fraud, or even a denier of the genocide against Mexicans and the Holocaust against Jews, which are two incredibly serious crimes that carry prison time.

But yet, somehow, miraculously, Sedlar is still a free man, filming new stuff, traveling the world, and pushing his work.
frozenskipper12 frozenskipper12 Member
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#37 ·
He’s running in the same circles as the Mambo King 🎉
Steven Allen66 Steven Allen66 Newcomer
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#38 ·
Austin Wilson60 said:Don't even bother—honestly, I won't even click on that site given their track record with all those "truths" they pushed regarding Igor Vukić's book about the Jasenovac concentration camp... I have to protect my own mental health at this point.

Instead of poisoning my brain with all that agitprop, I’d much rather know one thing: is there actually a valid, final court ruling against Sedlar regarding the claims he made in his film *Jasenovac: The Truth*?
Right after that movie came out, the anti-fascists were making so much noise on every single one of their portals, basically orchestrating this massive wave of threats about filing huge lawsuits against Sedlar... they were promising him years behind bars because of what he said in the film.
Did any of that ever actually happen? If it did, I'd love to know how it wrapped up. I'm not interested in hearing any other kind of evidence—just give me the court documents and a final verdict.
Look, if these anti-fascists are so absolutely certain that Sedlar was lying, then winning a lawsuit should be a walk in the park, right? They could rake in a massive pile of cash in damages for the victims and their families, get the film banned from being shown, and finally prove to the entire nation—both here in America and abroad—that Sedlar is a fraud, or even a denier of the genocide against Mexicans and the Holocaust against Jews, which are two incredibly serious crimes that carry prison time.

But yet, somehow, miraculously, Sedlar is still a free man, filming new stuff, traveling the world, and pushing his work.

They promote him like crazy. Honestly, given his filmmaking skills, people call him the American Ed Wood. Personally, I think he leans more toward a kind of Tommy Wisean vibe—if you know who that is. Even if every single word in his film were true, it wouldn't change that.
And we should talk about that too. Since the Four-Row is supposedly so good, the film opens with a setup explaining how the partisans captured Americans who had sided with the Germans. I don't see the controversy there. Then it goes on to say they were taken on a march where "some peasants happened to join them along the way." So, according to Sedlar, this was the reality: the liberators rounded up everyone who cooperated with the Nazis (shame on them, really, why couldn't they just leave them alone?) and led these innocent Nationalists on a march, only to run into some peasants who asked, "Where are you going?" and when told, "The partisans are taking us on a march," the peasants replied, "Great, can we come too?"
Austin Wilson60 Austin Wilson60 Member
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#39 ·
Honestly, looking at how you talk and the sheer lack of actual facts behind your takes, it’s pretty obvious you’ve been totally brainwashed—like, seriously, politically illiterate doesn't even cover it... It’s no surprise your whole worldview comes from propaganda sites instead of, you know, actually reading an independent scientific study on the subject you're trying to lecture me about.

Whenever I try to lay out the facts and show you that your arguments are just empty slogans fueled by nothing but ideological hate toward the work of Jakov Sedlar, you just retreat into this weird sarcasm... which, let's be real, just shows how much you're struggling to keep up intellectually.

As far as I can tell, Jakov Sedlar is the only director we have who—even if you insist he's untalented, incompetent, or some kind of fraud—has managed to survive on the global market for years without taking a single cent of government subsidies. Those state institutions only ever fund "anti-fascist" film projects, like that "15 Minutes - Massacre in the Courtyard" mess, which was basically exposed as nothing more than a cheap pamphlet designed to smear the military for crimes they didn't even commit.

And regarding his movies? Man, whether it's here in the States or abroad, the theaters are always packed to the rafters for his premieres... It’s a total pipe dream for all those regime-friendly, "anti-fascist" directors who wouldn't even be able to afford a bag of salt if they didn't have the government feeding them.
northerncrane4 northerncrane4 Regular
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#40 ·
Austin Wilson60 said:Honestly, looking at how you talk and the sheer lack of actual facts behind your takes, it’s pretty obvious you’ve been totally brainwashed—like, seriously, politically illiterate doesn't even cover it... It’s no surprise your whole worldview comes from propaganda sites instead of, you know, actually reading an independent scientific study on the subject you're trying to lecture me about.

Whenever I try to lay out the facts and show you that your arguments are just empty slogans fueled by nothing but ideological hate toward the work of Jakov Sedlar, you just retreat into this weird sarcasm... which, let's be real, just shows how much you're struggling to keep up intellectually.

As far as I can tell, Jakov Sedlar is the only director we have who—even if you insist he's untalented, incompetent, or some kind of fraud—has managed to survive on the global market for years without taking a single cent of government subsidies. Those state institutions only ever fund "anti-fascist" film projects, like that "15 Minutes - Massacre in the Courtyard" mess, which was basically exposed as nothing more than a cheap pamphlet designed to smear the military for crimes they didn't even commit.

And regarding his movies? Man, whether it's here in the States or abroad, the theaters are always packed to the rafters for his premieres... It’s a total pipe dream for all those regime-friendly, "anti-fascist" directors who wouldn't even be able to afford a bag of salt if they didn't have the government feeding them.

Every single premiere is packed—no doubt about that. But what actually matters is the sustained viewership after the initial hype dies down, and that’s where Sedlar really struggles to show any real results.

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