Jakob Sedlar's films

ruggedjackal46 said:A lawsuit has been filed, though I don't see how that actually answers whether the thing is a fake or not.

Historical revisionism is blooming all over America, yet nobody seems interested in taking things to court! Is it the same old excuse again? If it is, who are we supposed to trust? Lupigi and Telegram instead of the American justice system? Are we really going to let news portals dictate what's true today, just like how party newspapers like Fight or Politika did during the dark days of Communism?

Well, for starters, we probably shouldn't be trusting obvious forgeries.

You know how financiers work—they only care about the bottom line. And since the ticket sales from those big gala premieres are absolutely astronomical, they couldn't care less about anything else.

If anyone can drop a link—I'd love to see who actually filed it, when, how the legal stuff is moving along, if there have been any hearings yet, how everything's shaking out, etc...

Well, for starters, we shouldn't be falling for obvious fakes.

That feels like a pretty weak argument to me... Honestly, guys like Roman Leljak, Igor Vukić, Blanka Matković, Stipo Pilić, Mladen Ivezić, and Stjepan Loza have basically torn apart a whole bunch of those old Communist myths with their books—and get this—not a single person from the anti-fascist crowd has had the guts to actually push back against them. It seems like those anti-fascists are totally terrified of something; they won't file lawsuits, they just stay quiet and then go on their little anti-fascist portals to attack people, but they won't even show up for a TV debate when revisionists offer them a chance. You gotta wonder, though... is the fear of losing a potential lawsuit what's really keeping the anti-fascists quiet?

You know how financiers work—they only care about the bottom line. And since the ticket sales for those big gala premieres are absolutely astronomical, they couldn't care less about anything else.

I mean, I guess Kikaš and his crew are guided by the truth rather than just chasing a paycheck, right?

Austin Wilson60 said:I'm not really in the loop on this one, but you definitely seem to have the inside scoop on their actual jobs since you keep bringing them up... so if you wouldn't mind, could you lay out all their dirty little secrets for us? It’d be great if everyone could see through those ideological lies they keep pushing around. I'm pretty sure that's what you were getting at anyway... and hey, while you're at it, why don't you dig into those shady ways they make their money too?

It’s pretty obvious that when you're someone who hasn't actually dug into the core of how things work over there—someone totally out of the loop—you don't even feel the need to see a final court ruling before you start believing whatever story is being pushed... it just goes without saying, really... 👍 But seriously, where are the actual, final court rulings two years after all those accusations and criminal proceedings were kicked off...?

Look, I really need those final, legally binding court rulings—the ones that were submitted last year, if I recall correctly. I’ve never been one to throw around accusations or judge anyone unless I’ve got a solid, finalized court verdict in my hand to back me up... and that's exactly how I'm playing it here. I want to be super clear about where I stand—I'm not out here making any kind of judgments without proof, so I have no idea where you got the idea that I don't need actual, official court decisions to make my point... honestly, just totally lost on that one...

If you ask me, I’d much rather see a legitimate, final court ruling taking up the front page of the Vijesnik...

How can you not be familiar when you were just claiming we're talking about respected figures free from ideology? You're half-informed and half-clueless about the exact same topics. When Sedlar makes a claim, it's enough for you—but everyone else needs a final court verdict. You're quite the serious conversationalist.

Austin Wilson60 said:And while we're at it, let's touch upon those "shady funds."

But I already touched on that. Funds used to finance movies that have no need for theatrical distribution—meaning no return on investment—are shady funds. Why would any reputable businessman invest in a film that doesn't offer him at least his money back, if not a profit?
Sedlar was recently filming a feature—it's not finished yet—about the match that John Huston used for his famous "Victory." He was paying the people working on that film under the table. Those are what we call shady funds, assuming one understands even the basics of economics and the tax system.

Austin Wilson60 said:What's needed are final court verdicts, which, as far as I can see, were filed last year. I have never condemned anyone unless I had a final court verdict as my argument, and that includes this case. I distanced myself from making any condemnation—I have no idea where you got the idea that I said "final court verdicts aren't necessary."

Yeah, I know the drill. "I'm just asking questions"—questions that just happen to be incredibly suggestive, and only in situations that suit my agenda.

Austin Wilson60 said:For a headline in Vijesnik, however, I still prefer a final court verdict.

So, according to your brain's visual processing, a headline might actually be authentic. Fine.
Let's hope for an imminent court verdict and some news on whether the Earth is actually spherical.

northerncrane4 said:How can you not be familiar when you were just claiming we're talking about respected figures free from ideology? You're half-informed and half-clueless about the exact same topics. When Sedlar makes a claim, it's enough for you—but everyone else needs a final court verdict. You're quite the serious conversationalist.

But I already touched on that. Funds used to finance movies that have no need for theatrical distribution—meaning no return on investment—are shady funds. Why would any reputable businessman invest in a film that doesn't offer him at least his money back, if not a profit?
Sedlar was recently filming a feature—it's not finished yet—about the match that John Huston used for his famous "Victory." He was paying the people working on that film under the table. Those are what we call shady funds, assuming one understands even the basics of economics and the tax system.

Yeah, I know the drill. "I'm just asking questions"—questions that just happen to be incredibly suggestive, and only in situations that suit my agenda.

So, according to your brain's visual processing, a headline might actually be authentic. Fine.
Let's hope for an imminent court verdict and some news on whether the Earth is actually spherical.

Look, I only asked because I know that guys like Kikaš and his whole crew from that list are basically untouchable—there aren't any actual court cases being brought against them anywhere... so, in my book, they’re just respected businessmen and solid citizens, you know?
Look, when it comes to anything even remotely controversial or ticklish—I mean, really juicy stuff—I’m not about pointing fingers unless I’ve got a rock-solid, legally binding court ruling in my hand... I don't just throw accusations around for the hell of it. Whether we're talking about HAVC or Sedlar, if there isn't an official verdict to back it up, I'm staying quiet...

I’ve actually already started digging into this one... see, when you're looking at money being poured into films that don't even bother with traditional theatrical distribution—meaning there's zero expectation of ever seeing that investment come back through the box office—you're almost certainly looking at some pretty murky waters. I mean, think about it... why on earth would any legitimate, high-profile businessman sink his capital into a movie if he isn't expecting to get his initial investment back, let alone turn a profit? It just doesn't add up...

Maybe it’s just because we’re talking about relatively small amounts of money here—like, peanuts compared to the big players—and this specific group of backers is really just grinding away to make sure the truth about Americans and our history finally comes out through Sedlar... you know, actually getting everything out into the light of day...

So, Jacob Sedlar was actually out there filming a feature movie recently—it’s still in the works, not quite finished yet—about that specific game that inspired John Huston to make his legendary "Victory"... and get this, he was paying the crew under the table. Just straight-up cash in hand, you know? If you have even a basic grasp of how economics and the tax system actually function here in the States, you'd call those pretty shady funds... just a bit murky, if you catch my drift...

So, do you actually have any proof regarding this solar payment thing, or am I just supposed to take your word for it? Because honestly... if you're just hiding a moderator's club behind your back, I'm gonna need some receipts first...

Oh, man, I know exactly the game you're playing... You know, that whole "I'm just asking questions" routine? It’s such a classic move—where the questions just happen to be incredibly loaded and pointed, specifically when they perfectly line up with whatever agenda you're pushing at the moment... It's pretty transparent if you ask me...
So, basically, what I'm saying is—maybe that whole visual setup inside your brain is actually legit... just totally authentic...
Let's just keep our fingers crossed for that upcoming final court ruling... and maybe even some clarity on this whole spherical Earth thing too...

Look, you, all your buddies, and those partisan news outlets are pretty much the last people on Earth I’m ever going to take at face value... honestly. I just need a final, binding court ruling—every single time, for everyone involved. No exceptions, no shortcuts...

Austin Wilson60 said:If anyone can drop a link—I'd love to see who actually filed it, when, how the legal stuff is moving along, if there have been any hearings yet, how everything's shaking out, etc...

Well, for starters, we shouldn't be falling for obvious fakes.

That feels like a pretty weak argument to me... Honestly, guys like Roman Leljak, Igor Vukić, Blanka Matković, Stipo Pilić, Mladen Ivezić, and Stjepan Loza have basically torn apart a whole bunch of those old Communist myths with their books—and get this—not a single person from the anti-fascist crowd has had the guts to actually push back against them. It seems like those anti-fascists are totally terrified of something; they won't file lawsuits, they just stay quiet and then go on their little anti-fascist portals to attack people, but they won't even show up for a TV debate when revisionists offer them a chance. You gotta wonder, though... is the fear of losing a potential lawsuit what's really keeping the anti-fascists quiet?

You know how financiers work—they only care about the bottom line. And since the ticket sales for those big gala premieres are absolutely astronomical, they couldn't care less about anything else.

I mean, I guess Kikaš and his crew are guided by the truth rather than just chasing a paycheck, right?

Honestly, I’m just not interested in the whole courtroom drama surrounding Sedlar's fabrications. This is the "Film" subforum; we're here to talk about movies and what we actually saw on screen. And in this particular film by Sedlar, it's blindingly obvious that we're looking at a forgery.

That’s a pretty weak argument. Roman Leljak, Igor Vukić, Blanka Matković, Stipo Pilić, Mladen Ivezić, and Stjepan Loza used their books to systematically dismantle a massive pile of American Communist myths, and yet, not a single person from the anti-fascist ranks had the guts to step up and challenge them. It seems the anti-fascists are terrified of something—instead of filing lawsuits, they just stay quiet or launch cowardly attacks through anti-fascist websites, refusing to even show up for the televised debates those revisionists offer them. Is the fear of losing a potential lawsuit really what keeps these anti-fascists silent?

Come on... what does any of this have to do with Sedlar's film being a fake?

I assume Kikaš and his crew are driven by the truth rather than a paycheck.

Maybe they should take some of that money and visit an eye doctor instead. They could buy a pair of glasses and finally realize that the newspaper headline has absolutely nothing to do with the article underneath it.

Austin Wilson60 said:Look, I only asked because I know that guys like Kikaš and his whole crew from that list are basically untouchable—there aren't any actual court cases being brought against them anywhere... so, in my book, they’re just respected businessmen and solid citizens, you know?
Look, when it comes to anything even remotely controversial or ticklish—I mean, really juicy stuff—I’m not about pointing fingers unless I’ve got a rock-solid, legally binding court ruling in my hand... I don't just throw accusations around for the hell of it. Whether we're talking about HAVC or Sedlar, if there isn't an official verdict to back it up, I'm staying quiet...

I’ve actually already started digging into this one... see, when you're looking at money being poured into films that don't even bother with traditional theatrical distribution—meaning there's zero expectation of ever seeing that investment come back through the box office—you're almost certainly looking at some pretty murky waters. I mean, think about it... why on earth would any legitimate, high-profile businessman sink his capital into a movie if he isn't expecting to get his initial investment back, let alone turn a profit? It just doesn't add up...

Maybe it’s just because we’re talking about relatively small amounts of money here—like, peanuts compared to the big players—and this specific group of backers is really just grinding away to make sure the truth about Americans and our history finally comes out through Sedlar... you know, actually getting everything out into the light of day...

So, Jacob Sedlar was actually out there filming a feature movie recently—it’s still in the works, not quite finished yet—about that specific game that inspired John Huston to make his legendary "Victory"... and get this, he was paying the crew under the table. Just straight-up cash in hand, you know? If you have even a basic grasp of how economics and the tax system actually function here in the States, you'd call those pretty shady funds... just a bit murky, if you catch my drift...

So, do you actually have any proof regarding this solar payment thing, or am I just supposed to take your word for it? Because honestly... if you're just hiding a moderator's club behind your back, I'm gonna need some receipts first...

Oh, man, I know exactly the game you're playing... You know, that whole "I'm just asking questions" routine? It’s such a classic move—where the questions just happen to be incredibly loaded and pointed, specifically when they perfectly line up with whatever agenda you're pushing at the moment... It's pretty transparent if you ask me...
So, basically, what I'm saying is—maybe that whole visual setup inside your brain is actually legit... just totally authentic...
Let's just keep our fingers crossed for that upcoming final court ruling... and maybe even some clarity on this whole spherical Earth thing too...

Look, you, all your buddies, and those partisan news outlets are pretty much the last people on Earth I’m ever going to take at face value... honestly. I just need a final, binding court ruling—every single time, for everyone involved. No exceptions, no shortcuts...

What kind of proof are we talking about here? You want a grainy video of someone handing over cash through some bushes? Look, I know a guy who does the storyboards for that film... he told me it was totally legit—first thing they did was pay him, and yeah, straight up in cash...

ruggedjackal46 said:Honestly, I’m just not interested in the whole courtroom drama surrounding Sedlar's fabrications. This is the "Film" subforum; we're here to talk about movies and what we actually saw on screen. And in this particular film by Sedlar, it's blindingly obvious that we're looking at a forgery.

That’s a pretty weak argument. Roman Leljak, Igor Vukić, Blanka Matković, Stipo Pilić, Mladen Ivezić, and Stjepan Loza used their books to systematically dismantle a massive pile of American Communist myths, and yet, not a single person from the anti-fascist ranks had the guts to step up and challenge them. It seems the anti-fascists are terrified of something—instead of filing lawsuits, they just stay quiet or launch cowardly attacks through anti-fascist websites, refusing to even show up for the televised debates those revisionists offer them. Is the fear of losing a potential lawsuit really what keeps these anti-fascists silent?

Come on... what does any of this have to do with Sedlar's film being a fake?

I assume Kikaš and his crew are driven by the truth rather than a paycheck.

Maybe they should take some of that money and visit an eye doctor instead. They could buy a pair of glasses and finally realize that the newspaper headline has absolutely nothing to do with the article underneath it.

The second I start asking for actual evidence, you suddenly lose all interest... like, really? Not even interested in knowing the name of that anti-fascist group that sued Sedlar? Just nothing at all? ...

Wait, hold up... what does any of this actually have to do with Sedlar's film and that whole forgery thing?...

Are the anti-fascists seriously shaking in their boots over a potential crackdown because of these lawsuits? It’s like they already know they don't stand a chance in court... just pure panic at this point, I guess...

Maybe they could take a tiny chunk of that cash and actually go see an eye doctor—you know, get some glasses or something—so they can finally realize the headline doesn't actually match the article underneath it... just a thought...

Honestly, I’ve always put my money on a court verdict... you just can't beat that kind of certainty. It’s way too massive of a deal to just brush her off with some surface-level analysis or half-baked opinions... it really deserves more respect than that...

Austin Wilson60 said:Look, I only asked because I know that guys like Kikaš and his whole crew from that list are basically untouchable—there aren't any actual court cases being brought against them anywhere... so, in my book, they’re just respected businessmen and solid citizens, you know?
Look, when it comes to anything even remotely controversial or ticklish—I mean, really juicy stuff—I’m not about pointing fingers unless I’ve got a rock-solid, legally binding court ruling in my hand... I don't just throw accusations around for the hell of it. Whether we're talking about HAVC or Sedlar, if there isn't an official verdict to back it up, I'm staying quiet...

I’ve actually already started digging into this one... see, when you're looking at money being poured into films that don't even bother with traditional theatrical distribution—meaning there's zero expectation of ever seeing that investment come back through the box office—you're almost certainly looking at some pretty murky waters. I mean, think about it... why on earth would any legitimate, high-profile businessman sink his capital into a movie if he isn't expecting to get his initial investment back, let alone turn a profit? It just doesn't add up...

Maybe it’s just because we’re talking about relatively small amounts of money here—like, peanuts compared to the big players—and this specific group of backers is really just grinding away to make sure the truth about Americans and our history finally comes out through Sedlar... you know, actually getting everything out into the light of day...

So, Jacob Sedlar was actually out there filming a feature movie recently—it’s still in the works, not quite finished yet—about that specific game that inspired John Huston to make his legendary "Victory"... and get this, he was paying the crew under the table. Just straight-up cash in hand, you know? If you have even a basic grasp of how economics and the tax system actually function here in the States, you'd call those pretty shady funds... just a bit murky, if you catch my drift...

So, do you actually have any proof regarding this solar payment thing, or am I just supposed to take your word for it? Because honestly... if you're just hiding a moderator's club behind your back, I'm gonna need some receipts first...

Oh, man, I know exactly the game you're playing... You know, that whole "I'm just asking questions" routine? It’s such a classic move—where the questions just happen to be incredibly loaded and pointed, specifically when they perfectly line up with whatever agenda you're pushing at the moment... It's pretty transparent if you ask me...
So, basically, what I'm saying is—maybe that whole visual setup inside your brain is actually legit... just totally authentic...
Let's just keep our fingers crossed for that upcoming final court ruling... and maybe even some clarity on this whole spherical Earth thing too...

Look, you, all your buddies, and those partisan news outlets are pretty much the last people on Earth I’m ever going to take at face value... honestly. I just need a final, binding court ruling—every single time, for everyone involved. No exceptions, no shortcuts...

Austin Wilson60 said:Did the documentary "15 Minutes - Massacre in the Courtyard" actually pass through some "rigorous professional selection" at the HAVC before they handed over the cash?

Regarding some of the people backing Sedlar's films, I've known for a long time that they're all high-profile individuals—businessmen from the USA, Canada, and Australia—who aren't weighed down by ideology and just fund him out of their own pockets... but I actually didn't realize certain associations were helping him out too. Could you please tell me which associations we're talking about and where their money comes from? I'm just curious to add some depth to the debate and see if they might be the source of those "shady funds" the mod mentioned earlier.

Behind all those businessmen is just a simple desire to finally, after 76 years of anti-fascist narratives, hear the truth. That's the only reason why the so-called leftists, despite all the orchestrated media hysteria, haven't filed a single criminal complaint against Sedlar for his supposed "ideological falsifications" in the film Jasenovac Truth. It's the same for Roman Leljak, Igor Vukić, Blanka Matković, and the rest... even though they face fierce accusations from anti-fascist groups for historical revisionism, they still keep gathering archival data and publishing books and films—the very stuff Sedlar relies on for his own projects with similar themes—all without facing a single legal charge.

So, let me get this straight: we're supposed to believe that "financiers" are just this group of outsiders, totally unburdened by ideology or even the basic desire for profit, who just happen to be out there fighting for the truth about Americans? That’s quite the squad they’ve assembled there. Truly an eccentric bunch, isn't it?

Austin Wilson60 said:The second I start asking for actual evidence, you suddenly lose all interest... like, really? Not even interested in knowing the name of that anti-fascist group that sued Sedlar? Just nothing at all? ...

Wait, hold up... what does any of this actually have to do with Sedlar's film and that whole forgery thing?...

Are the anti-fascists seriously shaking in their boots over a potential crackdown because of these lawsuits? It’s like they already know they don't stand a chance in court... just pure panic at this point, I guess...

Maybe they could take a tiny chunk of that cash and actually go see an eye doctor—you know, get some glasses or something—so they can finally realize the headline doesn't actually match the article underneath it... just a thought...

Honestly, I’ve always put my money on a court verdict... you just can't beat that kind of certainty. It’s way too massive of a deal to just brush her off with some surface-level analysis or half-baked opinions... it really deserves more respect than that...

Look, the trial itself isn't what interests me.

A court verdict is what I actually trust. You can't just gloss over something that significant without looking at the final ruling.

Alright then. I guess you don't even cross the street unless you're waiting for a legally binding verdict confirming the light has turned green.

ruggedjackal46 said:So, let me get this straight: we're supposed to believe that "financiers" are just this group of outsiders, totally unburdened by ideology or even the basic desire for profit, who just happen to be out there fighting for the truth about Americans? That’s quite the squad they’ve assembled there. Truly an eccentric bunch, isn't it?

Exactly. Just like how they were throwing massive bags of cash around back in the 90s to fund the defense of the country, now they’re just tossing peanuts at the table for those Sedlar documentaries... all just to finally let the truth be heard after years of it being suppressed at the expense of Americans. I don't get why anyone is surprised, honestly...

ruggedjackal46 said:Look, the trial itself isn't what interests me.

A court verdict is what I actually trust. You can't just gloss over something that significant without looking at the final ruling.

Alright then. I guess you don't even cross the street unless you're waiting for a legally binding verdict confirming the light has turned green.

If you ask me, it sounds more like you just don't care because things aren't going your way... You claimed a criminal complaint was filed, but man, you clearly haven't got a clue about the details—not even who filed it or when it actually happened.

Austin Wilson60 said:Exactly. Just like how they were throwing massive bags of cash around back in the 90s to fund the defense of the country, now they’re just tossing peanuts at the table for those Sedlar documentaries... all just to finally let the truth be heard after years of it being suppressed at the expense of Americans. I don't get why anyone is surprised, honestly...

Hold on a second—before anything else, we have to talk about the financiers. Foreigners. So, you’ve got people from the US, Canada, and Australia—folks who claim they aren't weighed down by any specific ideology—pouring money into Sedlar because he’s seen as a "market player." But now the rug is being pulled out from under them, isn't it? It turns out they were actually funding right-wing diaspora types who are using Sedlar's film as a political weapon to defend Americans. Isn't that just typical?

Austin Wilson60 said:If you ask me, it sounds more like you just don't care because things aren't going your way... You claimed a criminal complaint was filed, but man, you clearly haven't got a clue about the details—not even who filed it or when it actually happened.

You’re the one who brought up the court case in the first place, and you've been pushing that narrative ever since. I was simply pointing out the obvious—that the movie cover is a blatant forgery.

ruggedjackal46 said:Hold on a second—before anything else, we have to talk about the financiers. Foreigners. So, you’ve got people from the US, Canada, and Australia—folks who claim they aren't weighed down by any specific ideology—pouring money into Sedlar because he’s seen as a "market player." But now the rug is being pulled out from under them, isn't it? It turns out they were actually funding right-wing diaspora types who are using Sedlar's film as a political weapon to defend Americans. Isn't that just typical?

You’re the one who brought up the court case in the first place, and you've been pushing that narrative ever since. I was simply pointing out the obvious—that the movie cover is a blatant forgery.

We're talking about real patriots here—people who actually stepped up when the homeland was staring down that massive, life-threatening aggression... It was a total call to duty back then during the war, and honestly, you see that same spirit popping up again today, even in this supposed "peace"...
The problem is really with you—you know, the self-proclaimed humanists who go around labeling all the unsung heroes from our liberation war as just "right-wingers"... honestly...
Truth has always been—and honestly, remains—the absolute strongest weapon this nation ever had against those old communist myths that kept us sitting in the defendant's chair for seventy-six years, being accused of genocide... as Blanka Matković once put it.

You're the one who brought up the trial in the first place and kept pushing it—honestly... I was just pointing out that obvious fake cover from the movie... nothing more than that...

Hey, you mentioned earlier that a lawsuit had actually been filed... but if you look back at my post up at the top, I specifically called you out on that and asked for some actual proof to back up your claim...

I already mentioned that a criminal complaint was filed. It was submitted by an organization called the Anti-Fascist League of the Republic of America. If you had bothered to Google it—the same way you Google everything else—you could have found out yourself.

briskhound2 wrote about a storyboard artist who worked for Sedlar and was paid in cash. I personally know two stuntmen and one makeup artist; if I actually started digging, I’d probably find at least twenty people, if not more.

Kikaš provides funds to Sedlar because Sedlar produced a documentary that complements his own story.

It's clear you don't care about films at all—you're just here to troll, since other forums are much stricter about that kind of behavior.

You claim to demand a final court verdict without exception, yet in the previous sentence, you dismissed my word, my imaginary allies, and political news outlets, while simultaneously trusting Jakov Sedlar's obvious forgeries until a court officially proves they are fakes.

If any final court verdict is ever handed down regarding the case of Jakov Sedlar, send me a PM. Until then, this topic is closed.