Resonatorov deleting posts on The Manolić Investigation and Boljkovac

Maria Nelson12 said:So I was having this decent back-and-forth with F10XX, but then Resonator went ahead and nuked my posts. One of them was actually pretty important because I was laying out why people like me shouldn't be lumped in with the whole instability thing, basically pointing out how certain totalitarian regimes share similar patterns. Resonator just wiped it anyway with this note: "Please refrain from discussing the motivations behind crimes committed more than 60 years ago".

The whole thread is about the investigation into two individuals regarding crimes from 60 years ago, yet we aren't allowed to talk about the motives? Like, what am I supposed to write about then? Makes zero sense.

Honestly, I think the edge and Resonator should probably lose their mod privileges since they're clearly biased as hell.

Susan Bailey said:Maybe that's why you guys get so incredibly worked up over the Nationalists vs. Partisan stuff?

Charles Chavez5 said:What you stand for and represent has been obvious for ages, and frankly, it’s completely irrelevant to this entire situation. Does your opinion somehow carry double weight just because you hold a moderator position?

Give me a rational explanation. How is it surgically possible to run a thread about the investigations into Boljkovac and Manolić without ever mentioning the actual charges they might be facing?

Any moderator who uses their own biases—rooted in some kind of ideological worship—to dictate what is considered relevant and what isn't, needs to be removed.

hollowtrucker77 said:I’m standing right behind Resonatorov on this one.
There really isn't any reason to drag this whole thing out into a massive debate.

Maria Nelson12 said:So, I guess if this whole discussion about the Manolić investigation and Boljkovac is centered on crimes committed sixty years ago, we aren't allowed to actually talk about the motivations behind those crimes because that would be "derailing"? I mean, if they didn't have some kind of reason for committing those crimes, they wouldn't have done them in the first place, and then there wouldn't even be a topic to discuss. That seems like a pretty valid way to expand the conversation.

But honestly, I think that's only being called derailing because I managed to prove something in my posts that directly contradicts what the other side is claiming. So apparently, proving facts is "derailing," and that's why certain posts get deleted just to hide the truth—whereas when Resonatorov and his buddy F10XX post stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject, it doesn't count as derailing and stays up: I haven't seen any 'leftists' hanging out at the local boardwalks or beach bars.

I mean, what does people gathering at the boardwalk or beach bars have to do with this investigation? Nothing, really. But hey, whatever helps them sleep at night...

Maria Nelson12 said:So, I guess if this whole discussion about the Manolić investigation and Boljkovac is centered on crimes committed sixty years ago, we aren't allowed to actually talk about the motivations behind those crimes because that would be "derailing"? I mean, if they didn't have some kind of reason for committing those crimes, they wouldn't have done them in the first place, and then there wouldn't even be a topic to discuss. That seems like a pretty valid way to expand the conversation.

But honestly, I think that's only being called derailing because I managed to prove something in my posts that directly contradicts what the other side is claiming. So apparently, proving facts is "derailing," and that's why certain posts get deleted just to hide the truth—whereas when Resonatorov and his buddy F10XX post stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject, it doesn't count as derailing and stays up: I haven't seen any 'leftists' hanging out at the local boardwalks or beach bars.

I mean, what does people gathering at the boardwalk or beach bars have to do with this investigation? Nothing, really. But hey, whatever helps them sleep at night...

Sam Green73 said:Look, there’s no question here: we are talking about actual crimes.
Any attempt to justify those crimes or list mitigating circumstances is something that belongs in a courtroom, not here.

I have no interest in seeing people try to downplay or relativize these crimes, even if they happened six decades ago, on the subforum I moderate.

hollowtrucker77 said:Do you even understand the concept of "derailing a conversation"??
We all know the reasons why someone committed certain crimes; analyzing motives isn't really a political issue anymore.
The actual political question is whether the people responsible will ever answer for their crimes, and specifically what can be proven against them and how much.

Maria Nelson12 said:Real classy. Honestly, I’m just sitting here wondering why all those massive posts from the left wing trying to excuse the crimes haven't been nuked yet, and how it works out that basically everyone except Adler gets banned while the conservatives get the hammer.

Sam Green73 said:During that specific discussion I went ahead and wiped out every single post that tried to make excuses for those crimes, regardless of whether they came from the "liberal" side or the "conservative" side.

Is there some specific reason you're looking to read "justifications" for committed crimes in this thread?

hollowtrucker77 said:Look, I'm the admin here, so my opinion isn't just worth double; it's effectively infinite.

Nobody is asking for surgical precision, but the whole point is to keep a topic within its actual scope so we don't have to start from the Stone Age, talking about Ilir, or digging through the Ilir investigations every single damn time.

Before you start lecturing me about ideological worship, maybe take a second to reflect on your own little cultish tendencies, and while you're at it, try looking at the bigger picture instead of being stuck in such a narrow lane.

hollowtrucker77 said:Look, I'm the admin here, so my opinion isn't just worth double; it's effectively infinite.

Nobody is asking for surgical precision, but the whole point is to keep a topic within its actual scope so we don't have to start from the Stone Age, talking about Ilir, or digging through the Ilir investigations every single damn time.

Before you start lecturing me about ideological worship, maybe take a second to reflect on your own little cultish tendencies, and while you're at it, try looking at the bigger picture instead of being stuck in such a narrow lane.

hollowtrucker77 said:Look, I'm the admin here, so my opinion isn't just worth double; it's effectively infinite.

Nobody is asking for surgical precision, but the whole point is to keep a topic within its actual scope so we don't have to start from the Stone Age, talking about Ilir, or digging through the Ilir investigations every single damn time.

Before you start lecturing me about ideological worship, maybe take a second to reflect on your own little cultish tendencies, and while you're at it, try looking at the bigger picture instead of being stuck in such a narrow lane.

hollowtrucker77 said:Look, I'm the admin here, so my opinion isn't just worth double; it's effectively infinite.

Nobody is asking for surgical precision, but the whole point is to keep a topic within its actual scope so we don't have to start from the Stone Age, talking about Ilir, or digging through the Ilir investigations every single damn time.

Before you start lecturing me about ideological worship, maybe take a second to reflect on your own little cultish tendencies, and while you're at it, try looking at the bigger picture instead of being stuck in such a narrow lane.

hollowtrucker77 said:Look, I'm the admin here, so my opinion isn't just worth double; it's effectively infinite.

Nobody is asking for surgical precision, but the whole point is to keep a topic within its actual scope so we don't have to start from the Stone Age, talking about Ilir, or digging through the Ilir investigations every single damn time.

Before you start lecturing me about ideological worship, maybe take a second to reflect on your own little cultish tendencies, and while you're at it, try looking at the bigger picture instead of being stuck in such a narrow lane.

hollowtrucker77 said:Look, I'm the admin here, so my opinion isn't just worth double; it's effectively infinite.

Nobody is asking for surgical precision, but the whole point is to keep a topic within its actual scope so we don't have to start from the Stone Age, talking about Ilir, or digging through the Ilir investigations every single damn time.

Before you start lecturing me about ideological worship, maybe take a second to reflect on your own little cultish tendencies, and while you're at it, try looking at the bigger picture instead of being stuck in such a narrow lane.

Sam Green73 said:Look, there’s no question here: we are talking about actual crimes.
Any attempt to justify those crimes or list mitigating circumstances is something that belongs in a courtroom, not here.

I have no interest in seeing people try to downplay or relativize these crimes, even if they happened six decades ago, on the subforum I moderate.

Sam Green73 said:Look, there’s no question here: we are talking about actual crimes.
Any attempt to justify those crimes or list mitigating circumstances is something that belongs in a courtroom, not here.

I have no interest in seeing people try to downplay or relativize these crimes, even if they happened six decades ago, on the subforum I moderate.

Sam Green73 said:Look, there’s no question here: we are talking about actual crimes.
Any attempt to justify those crimes or list mitigating circumstances is something that belongs in a courtroom, not here.

I have no interest in seeing people try to downplay or relativize these crimes, even if they happened six decades ago, on the subforum I moderate.