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Movies as a commodity

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northerncrane4 northerncrane4 Regular
384 messages
joined Aug 2005
#21 ·
Jesse Thomas7 said:Nah, you've got it all wrong... when a movie actually blows my mind, I'll Buy being original, which means that movie makes even more money off me. If the soundtrack is killer, I'll pick that up too—so, more money for them. Basically, anything that actually impresses me ends up earning an extra buck from my pocket. So yeah, I "pay extra" specifically when I feel like I've gotten way more than my money's worth.

That isn't "extra payment"—it's just an additional purchase. Extra payment would be walking up to the theater box office after the credits roll and saying: "That was so good, here's another $6.75!"

By the way, I watched Nightwatch—which was indescribable garbage—and after that, I wouldn't watch Daywatch even if I were tied to a radiator. Your mention of The Matrix and Quentin Tarantino as things you don't mind paying extra for just labels you as a consumer of the highest order.
Jesse Thomas7 Jesse Thomas7 Active MemberOP
54 messages
joined Nov 2017
#22 ·
northerncrane4 said:That isn't "extra payment"—it's just an additional purchase. Extra payment would be walking up to the theater box office after the credits roll and saying: "That was so good, here's another $6.75!"

By the way, I watched Nightwatch—which was indescribable garbage—and after that, I wouldn't watch Daywatch even if I were tied to a radiator. Your mention of The Matrix and Quentin Tarantino as things you don't mind paying extra for just labels you as a consumer of the highest order.

So don't come around trying to recommend anything to me, because it's pretty obvious we aren't on the same page... and look, I'm not insulting you or your taste, so maybe you could try being a little less aggressive in how you talk... though, I guess you're one of those people who thinks anyone who disagrees with them is just straight-up stupid.
Also, how is buying a DVD not just paying extra for the same damn movie? Most of that cash ends up in the same pockets as the theater ticket money anyway. I can borrow a disc, I can rip it, and the fact that I haven't done that just shows I actually think the people who made the movie deserve the extra cash....
northerncrane4 northerncrane4 Regular
384 messages
joined Aug 2005
#23 ·
Jesse Thomas7 said:So don't come around trying to recommend anything to me, because it's pretty obvious we aren't on the same page... and look, I'm not insulting you or your taste, so maybe you could try being a little less aggressive in how you talk... though, I guess you're one of those people who thinks anyone who disagrees with them is just straight-up stupid.
Also, how is buying a DVD not just paying extra for the same damn movie? Most of that cash ends up in the same pockets as the theater ticket money anyway. I can borrow a disc, I can rip it, and the fact that I haven't done that just shows I actually think the people who made the movie deserve the extra cash....

No, I'm simply pointing out that what you consider a masterpiece might be absolute garbage to someone else. It really highlights the absurdity of your stance—thinking you should get a refund just because a movie didn't meet your personal standards.
goldenhound32 goldenhound32 Regular
335 messages
joined Mar 2024
#24 ·
@Jesse Thomas7
You’re the one at fault here. You didn't bother to do your homework. It's the same scenario as someone taking out a massive loan and signing the paperwork without reading the fine print, only to lose their house because they weren't prepared for the interest rates. And then, predictably, they blame the bank. Give me a break.
Christian Taylor3 Christian Taylor3 Active Member
213 messages
joined Jul 2010
#25 ·
Life’s a mess. Just grab a damn helmet and deal with it, alright?

Jesse Thomas7 said:I just hope we can all agree on one thing here: much like how professional football has evolved, movies have completely stopped caring about the "art" of filmmaking. It’s nothing but pure business now—just money, money, money. Let’s be real, it’s going to be nearly impossible to get a major studio to greenlight some small, heartfelt story when they can just pump out another superhero flick or some high-tech CGI spectacle instead. That’s exactly why so many fresh, actually quality ideas never even stand a chance at reaching an audience...

They’re still finding their way through, honestly. You just have to be a little more proactive about staying informed. This PDF is basically designed for that exact purpose.

For instance, 127 Hours It’s hitting theaters across the States pretty soon. Honestly, looking at this thread, we’ve got about 40 posts and not a single person has trashed it yet, which is actually kind of saying something. Still, I’d say stay cautious, just in case. The enemy never sleeps. At the end of the day, all these forum posts and opinions are pretty much just subjective nonsense anyway.

We’re moving on to the next step before we head out to the theater—because honestly, if I don't get this sorted, nobody's going to give a damn about me. 😁):

So, I finally sat down to check out the Rotten Tomatoes score for 127 Hours, and honestly, looking at the consensus there feels a bit like staring at a weather report when you already know it’s going to pour. It's one of those movies that really sticks in your brain, mostly because it makes you feel slightly claustrophobic just watching it, which isn't exactly a relaxing way to spend an afternoon. It’s a heavy watch, sure, but pretty much what you'd expect from a story about survival against impossible odds.

So, I was scrolling through Metacritic and stumbled upon the page for 127 Hours. Honestly, looking at those scores, you can really see how much people were polarized by this one. It’s that kind of movie that either hits you right in the gut or just leaves you feeling incredibly uncomfortable and wanting to look away from the screen entirely. It’s definitely not your typical popcorn flick, though I guess if you enjoy watching someone go through absolute hell, it might be right up your alley. Still, even with the critical acclaim, there's something about those intense scenes that makes me wonder why we even subject ourselves to such tension in the first place.

We’re far from finished; there's still one final step left on the checklist—Power to the People!

Just did a quick little dive into the search results for 127 Hours on Twitter, and honestly, it’s pretty much what you’d expect to find when you go looking for a deep dive into survival stories and intense cinematic moments. It’s a weirdly specific corner of the internet, but I guess if you’re interested in seeing how people react to extreme isolation or just want to geek out over the film, this is where it all happens.

Alright, go ahead and grab a notebook and get ready to take some serious notes...

I'm pretty sure I've seen this before, but honestly, my memory isn't exactly what it used to be. Is this that PDF film everyone's talking about? Or am I just losing my mind again? +
Retweeted. +
I honestly don't know what to make of this one. It feels like we're just circling the drain at this point, staring at nothing while waiting for something actually interesting to happen. +
I don't really have much to say about this, honestly. Just sitting here thinking about how things turn out. +

Well, look at that. We hit the jackpot. Total bingo.

Tron: Legacy I’d probably end up with four strikes on that same test. Enough to satisfy anyone actually using their brain. 🙂

Choose wisely, because you usually only get one shot at getting it right.
Jesse Thomas7 Jesse Thomas7 Active MemberOP
54 messages
joined Nov 2017
#26 ·
northerncrane4 said:No, I'm simply pointing out that what you consider a masterpiece might be absolute garbage to someone else. It really highlights the absurdity of your stance—thinking you should get a refund just because a movie didn't meet your personal standards.

Do you honestly think I’m dense enough to believe that actually getting a refund for a movie ticket is a realistic thing? That wasn't my point at all. I was talking about some kind of accountability for blatant lies, which is something we demand in pretty much every other part of life. Like, if the producers behind a flick like 'You've Got Mail' slap a label on it calling it a "hilarious comedy" when it's clearly not, wouldn't it be great if they had to deal with Mirko Filipović, Mike Tyson, and Chuck Norris showing up at their door to force them to tell the truth? Hahahaha... okay, okay, I'm joking, but you totally get where I'm coming from...
Dennis Johnson3 Dennis Johnson3 Member
17 messages
joined Mar 2011
#27 ·
Ever since high-definition movies and Blu-ray rips became readily available to stream on my home setup, I haven't stepped foot in a movie theater. Why bother? Unless a film looks absolutely spectacular—or if I think a specific experience, say something in 3D, would actually be enhanced by the big screen—I simply won't shell out the cash. Otherwise, there is no way I'm dropping $20 or more on something so unpredictable.
Jerry Martinez50 Jerry Martinez50 Active Member
74 messages
joined Jul 2010
#28 ·
So, the trolling just keeps on going, doesn't it?☕
Watch out, Jesse Thomas7, you really stepped into this one yourself. There are people on this forum practically salivating at an opportunity like this...

At the end of the day, just download it online. Forget buying tickets and heading to the theater—unless, of course, you're absolutely certain about what you're spending your money on.
Walter Grant5 Walter Grant5 Regular
459 messages
joined Oct 2012
#29 ·
Jesse Thomas7 said:I just hope we can all agree on one thing here: much like how professional football has evolved, movies have completely stopped caring about the "art" of filmmaking. It’s nothing but pure business now—just money, money, money. Let’s be real, it’s going to be nearly impossible to get a major studio to greenlight some small, heartfelt story when they can just pump out another superhero flick or some high-tech CGI spectacle instead. That’s exactly why so many fresh, actually quality ideas never even stand a chance at reaching an audience...

If you flip that logic around, you'll find your answer.

Honestly, I'm sick of hearing people moan that "good movies don't exist anymore." Do better, people.
Jesse Thomas7 Jesse Thomas7 Active MemberOP
54 messages
joined Nov 2017
#30 ·
Christian Taylor3, thanks... even though your post is totally condescending and dripping with irony toward me, I’m just gonna look the other way and take everything you suggested and dump it into my spreadsheet...
P.s. Does it seriously have to be a grid-style sheet?
Jesse Thomas7 Jesse Thomas7 Active MemberOP
54 messages
joined Nov 2017
#31 ·
Jerry Martinez50 said:So, the trolling just keeps on going, doesn't it?☕
Watch out, Jesse Thomas7, you really stepped into this one yourself. There are people on this forum practically salivating at an opportunity like this...

At the end of the day, just download it online. Forget buying tickets and heading to the theater—unless, of course, you're absolutely certain about what you're spending your money on.

HAHAHA, well, hey—glad to be of service.😍 It’s always a little boost to have someone to tear apart; makes the day feel a bit brighter. Or what, are you all living in some kind of perfect symbiosis here or something?
Christian Taylor3 Christian Taylor3 Active Member
213 messages
joined Jul 2010
#32 ·
Jesse Thomas7 said:Christian Taylor3, thanks... even though your post is totally condescending and dripping with irony toward me, I’m just gonna look the other way and take everything you suggested and dump it into my spreadsheet...
P.s. Does it seriously have to be a grid-style sheet?

Once again, for those who actually bothered to listen:

"Life sucks. Get a F**king helmet, okay?"

There isn't much else intelligent or constructive to say here; the whole thread is basically turning into a playground for trolls (it's definitely ready to be locked). 😁

Jesse Thomas7 said:HAHAHA, well, hey—glad to be of service.😍 It’s always a little boost to have someone to tear apart; makes the day feel a bit brighter. Or what, are you all living in some kind of perfect symbiosis here or something?

The chat is extremely active, so feel free to go hunt for attention over there instead. 😬
Jesse Thomas7 Jesse Thomas7 Active MemberOP
54 messages
joined Nov 2017
#33 ·
Christian Taylor3 said:Once again, for those who actually bothered to listen:

"Life sucks. Get a F**king helmet, okay?"

There isn't much else intelligent or constructive to say here; the whole thread is basically turning into a playground for trolls (it's definitely ready to be locked). 😁

The chat is extremely active, so feel free to go hunt for attention over there instead. 😬

If the whole point of this topic is treating film as a commodity, then how is discussing it considered trolling?
Maybe it would be easier if you just wrote out exactly what we should all be saying in our posts, and we’ll all just copy-paste it? Then everyone can be happy and satisfied.
Also, I have one specific question, if possible—I'm really curious. Has anyone actually sat down and watched Enter the Void, and if so, can you give me your take on it?
Jerry Martinez50 Jerry Martinez50 Active Member
74 messages
joined Jul 2010
#34 ·
Jesse Thomas7 said:If the whole point of this topic is treating film as a commodity, then how is discussing it considered trolling?
Maybe it would be easier if you just wrote out exactly what we should all be saying in our posts, and we’ll all just copy-paste it? Then everyone can be happy and satisfied.
Also, I have one specific question, if possible—I'm really curious. Has anyone actually sat down and watched Enter the Void, and if so, can you give me your take on it?

Hehhehe. Now I'm starting to think you're the one trolling. 😁 There's an entire thread on the forum—just go find it! There are plenty of opinions there...
Or just ask in the chat room.

Don't take it personally, but Christian Taylor3 is basically the moderator over on that board.😬
neonsurfer6 neonsurfer6 Member
37 messages
joined Jan 2010
#35 ·
Jesse Thomas7 said:If the whole point of this topic is treating film as a commodity, then how is discussing it considered trolling?
Maybe it would be easier if you just wrote out exactly what we should all be saying in our posts, and we’ll all just copy-paste it? Then everyone can be happy and satisfied.
Also, I have one specific question, if possible—I'm really curious. Has anyone actually sat down and watched Enter the Void, and if so, can you give me your take on it?

http://www.example.com/thread/605575
Jesse Thomas7 Jesse Thomas7 Active MemberOP
54 messages
joined Nov 2017
#36 ·
Jerry Martinez50 said:Hehhehe. Now I'm starting to think you're the one trolling. 😁 There's an entire thread on the forum—just go find it! There are plenty of opinions there...
Or just ask in the chat room.

Don't take it personally, but Christian Taylor3 is basically the moderator over on that board.😬

Thanks. My bad, everyone—I'm pretty new here, so I haven't quite wrapped my head around why everything gets split into so many different threads. It feels like the second your mind drifts even slightly toward a related topic, people label you a troll... but hey, I guess I'll get the hang of it eventually.
Jerry Martinez50 Jerry Martinez50 Active Member
74 messages
joined Jul 2010
#37 ·
It doesn't matter, welcome! Even if nothing comes of it, you’ve made a truly groundbreaking impact... just look at how much dust you've kicked up😁
Joshua Smith5 Joshua Smith5 Active Member
68 messages
joined Jul 2010
#38 ·
I love watching new users fall for northerncrane4's sophistry. 😍
Jesse Thomas7 Jesse Thomas7 Active MemberOP
54 messages
joined Nov 2017
#39 ·
Jerry Martinez50 said:It doesn't matter, welcome! Even if nothing comes of it, you’ve made a truly groundbreaking impact... just look at how much dust you've kicked up😁

Haha, well... here I go again, standing alone against the entire crowd. Honestly, I’m surprised I even made it through that last round without getting shut down. But look, let’s get back to the actual point before everyone starts trolling me—do you guys seriously believe that movies, on a global scale, haven't just become nothing more than mass-produced commodities designed to be shoved down as many people's throats as possible? I mean, sure, there are always those rare exceptions that break the mold, but for the most part, it's just a product being pushed.
Lisa Ross65 Lisa Ross65 Active Member
108 messages
joined May 2009
#40 ·
Jesse Thomas7 said:Haha, well... here I go again, standing alone against the entire crowd. Honestly, I’m surprised I even made it through that last round without getting shut down. But look, let’s get back to the actual point before everyone starts trolling me—do you guys seriously believe that movies, on a global scale, haven't just become nothing more than mass-produced commodities designed to be shoved down as many people's throats as possible? I mean, sure, there are always those rare exceptions that break the mold, but for the most part, it's just a product being pushed.

Look, there is the actual film industry and then there is the factory line churning out mindless junk. It’s on you to choose. Some people here tell you they have endless pages of reviews to browse through. Personally, I rely heavily on Rotten Tomatoes. These days, dropping $25 or $30 at an AMC Theatres for some absolute garbage is a hard pill to swallow. For years now, I've been selective about what I see in theaters—I steer clear of the trash because I refuse to waste money on a bad ticket. That said, I'll happily pay for Paramount Pictures, Warner Bros., Netflix, or Disney. Occasionally, I'll go into a movie knowing it might not be great, but I go in prepared and I don't complain.

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