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Michael Clayton

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redowl90 redowl90 RegularOP
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#1 ·
I caught this movie last night at the new AMC Metreon, and I have to say, it was really good.
George Clooney, Tilda Swinton, and Tom Wilkinson were all fantastic—honestly, they all deserve Academy Award nods.
The only part of the story that didn't quite land for me was Clooney's son; he felt pretty unnecessary to the overall plot, mostly just there to flesh out Clayton's character. Plus, I've never been much of a fan of gambling subplots.
That being said, despite those gripes, it’s a high-quality film that I’d definitely recommend.

Has anyone else seen it yet, or are you planning to go?
redlynx11 redlynx11 Newcomer
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#2 ·
Watched it last night. It felt a bit too much like an "Oscar bait" film for my taste. Honestly, I forgot about it within ten minutes of leaving the coffee shop. Nothing special—just some pretentious nonsense designed to chase Academy Award nominations for Clooney. Sorry, but not for me.
redowl90 redowl90 RegularOP
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#3 ·
redlynx11 said:It’s just pretentious nonsense designed to bait some Academy Award nominations for Clooney.

He already has an Oscar under his belt. Heck, he's had several nominations. What more does he actually need?
velvetotter10 velvetotter10 Newcomer
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#4 ·
It’s certainly not winning any Academy Awards, but honestly—it stands head and shoulders above your typical run-of-the-mill offerings. It actually turned out to be much better than I had initially anticipated, so... there you have it.
swiftstag23 swiftstag23 Member
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#5 ·
My partner and I caught it at the AMC Metreon. When the lights went down, there were maybe 50 people in the theater, but half of them had bailed by the thirty-minute mark. My guy actually wanted to walk out halfway through, but by the end, he was like, "Damn, what an incredible ending. What a hell of a movie."🙂I don't think this one is for everyone; it’s definitely for a specific crowd. Personally, I thought it was fine—nothing groundbreaking. It’s just your standard good vs. evil setup, some games, a few murder attempts, and those brilliant five minutes from Clooney at the end. That's about it.🙂
redowl90 redowl90 RegularOP
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#6 ·
swiftstag23 said:after just thirty minutes of the movie, that number was cut in half

Man... This isn't exactly light reading.
coppertrucker8 coppertrucker8 Newcomer
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#7 ·
I actually fell asleep halfway through while watching it at the AMC Metreon. I honestly don't get the hype surrounding this movie. It was just... tedious.
Save your money, everyone. George Clooney is capable of much better work than this. The only part that managed to hold my interest was the final twenty minutes.
redowl90 redowl90 RegularOP
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#8 ·
I honestly don't get what everyone was expecting from this movie. An action thriller?
It’s a drama about a man with a conscience. Actually, let me rephrase: it's a VERY high-quality drama about a man with a conscience.
A Anonymous Veteran
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#9 ·
redlynx11 said:Honestly, I forgot all about it ten minutes after leaving the coffee shop.

Same here. ☕It was totally hollow—just didn't leave any kind of impression on me.
Kate Jackson4 Kate Jackson4 Active Member
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#10 ·
Personally, I found the film excellent; one of the better pieces I've seen lately.
I don't quite grasp how anyone could find the opening tedious. It was deeply moving for me... I've always appreciated films where the pacing is deliberate yet impactful.😉

Clooney is superb.👍
As is Tom Wilkinson—it actually reminded me of another film, though I won't spoil it here.😂
Amy Mendoza25 Amy Mendoza25 Member
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#11 ·
thumbs up from me too 🙂
A Anonymous Veteran
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#12 ·
Just scored some tickets on the radio! I'm heading out tomorrow.
Mark Perez2 Mark Perez2 Member
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#13 ·
I was actually hoping to catch that too, but right now it’s only listed as a Broadway preview. Maybe they’ll get it on the schedule next week.
A Anonymous Veteran
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#14 ·
I have to admit, I was pretty caught off guard. At first, I was leaning toward the negative side because it felt like the movie was just spinning its wheels—honestly, there were moments where I seriously considered getting up and walking out of the theater. But then, it shifted into a totally positive experience for me because almost everything felt like it belonged right where it was. My only gripe is that one little part; it just didn't click for me, and I’m still struggling to wrap my head around that whole book gimmick and why that specific plot point was supposed to be such a big deal.
slyrider16 slyrider16 Active Member
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#15 ·
Does everything really need some deep, obvious purpose? Like a specific meaning or whatever? To me, it’s plenty just knowing that the book—and his kid rambling about it, and him, and that crazy lawyer—saved his life. It pushed him to get out of the car and see that horse scene, just like the one in the book...
A Anonymous Veteran
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#16 ·
A horse in the book? I must have completely missed that part. 😳
My bad.
Samuel Ortiz3 Samuel Ortiz3 Active Member
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#17 ·
Honestly, such a solid movie.
Carol Lewis Carol Lewis Active Member
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#18 ·
Just finished watching it... what an incredible movie... truly profound stuff, the kind of cinema I just live for...
Tilda Swinton was absolutely phenomenal... the way she started trembling at the end, man, she was just flawless throughout the entire thing... and honestly, I just sat there soaking in every second of the credits while riding in my Uber, just staring at that look on Clooney's face as he gets more and more satisfied—it’s like, finally, he actually feels fulfilled!!

8/10
ruggedfox28 ruggedfox28 Regular
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#19 ·
Wait, what’s this movie even about? Like, what's the actual premise??
Amanda Nguyen5 Amanda Nguyen5 Active Member
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#20 ·
Sometimes these five-star theaters serve up nothing but junk, but occasionally they actually make a smart move.
One such move is this Oscar showcase, where we get a chance to catch those Oscar-nominated films we missed out on for whatever reason.

Today’s pick was "Michael Clayton," the debut from the legendary screenwriter Tony Gilroy (the guy behind the Bourne trilogy).
It’s a story about the rise of a legal fixer—basically a high-stakes corporate cleaner—who finds himself facing massive moral dilemmas along the way.
Honestly, it’s one of the best thrillers from recent years, though it does demand a bit of a more focused audience. The plot gets pretty tangled because they use all those classic filmmaking tricks: adding a million subplots that seem disconnected, flashbacks, repeating motifs, and an intense focus on tiny details.
In reality, it’s a fairly straightforward story, just heavily spiced up, which makes it a little tough to follow at times.

On another note, watching movies at AMC Theatres has become quite the experience lately. To my left sat a young couple; the guy seemed to grasp almost everything, so he had to spend half the movie explaining the plot to his girlfriend. To my right was another couple, probably the oldest I've ever seen in a theater—both looked to be in their 60s (watching a thriller, no less!). They didn't understand a thing, but they kept chatting away, clearly trying to apply the old "two heads are better than one" logic. In front of me was a group of teenagers who lost the thread within thirty minutes. Once they realized they weren't following, they just gave up and spent the rest of the time texting, whispering, and scrolling through photos.
Everything was said loud enough for everyone to hear, so even if I wanted to tune it out, I couldn't. It was incredibly grating.
(I could go off on a tangent about how age and political leanings play into this—old folks on the right, young ones on the left, and the kids who can't even vote in the middle—but I won't, even though there's plenty to say there.)
It feels like every single screening I've caught in the last two months has someone talking loudly the entire time.
(Yesterday at Beverly Hills, it was a whole different kind of madness. Basically, they were showing a classic drama, and the crowd was packed with about 30 hardcore nostalgics who wouldn't stop shouting things like, "Oh, remember when that actor was around!" or "Man, remember what he used to do in those old movies? Kids today wouldn't know talent if it hit them!" It got so bad I actually had to walk out of my beloved Beverly Hills cinema for the first time ever.)

Anyway, back to the film. This crew is top-tier. The cinematographer is Bob Elswit, a regular collaborator with Andersen, and the score is by the great James Newton Howard. It was edited by Gilroy's younger brother, and the producer credits include heavyweights like Anthony Minghella, Steven Soderbergh, and Sydney Pollack—people who actually matter in Hollywood.
As for the cast, you've got Tilda Swinton and George Clooney, plus Tom Wilkinson and Pollack himself. I wouldn't single anyone out specifically—honestly, I don't see why this kind of ensemble acting even needs an Oscar, since Tilda is the only one who truly stands out while everyone else is just "solid"—but they work together so well that the overall performance is fantastic.

My overall impression is great. I was expecting just another mediocre Clooney movie, but as far as Best Picture nominations go, my vote goes straight to "Michael Clayton."

Gilroy uses very classic directing techniques, but those last four or five shots (the silent ones and the conversation with the taxi driver) are pure mastery. Plus, the script is written at an incredibly high level, which is exactly what you'd expect.

What do you guys think?

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