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Everything you need to know about Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease?

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restlessgull82 restlessgull82 NewcomerOP
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So, there’s been quite a bit of buzz lately regarding this topic, which has me wondering—is it actually true that this disease is present here in the States? And if so, what are the typical early warning signs to look out for? I'm also curious about what kind of diagnostic imaging or scans can help confirm a diagnosis or rule out any suspicions... just looking for some general insight on the whole thing.
Sam Hughes5 Sam Hughes5 Active Member
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It’s like madness jumping from cows straight into people with Creutzfeldt-Jakob
I really doubt we'd see anything like that here in the States, though I bet it pops up in places like England since they've dealt with those mad cow outbreaks before...
restlessgull82 restlessgull82 NewcomerOP
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Well, you know, I’ve been seeing reports all over our local news stations and in *The Wall Street Journal* suggesting that there might be cases of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease popping up here in the States—and the rumor is that officials are trying to keep it under wraps... That’s really why I decided to bring this up. I'm curious about what the actual symptoms look like, what kind of diagnostic tests are used, and all that good stuff. From what I’ve gathered, it sounds like an absolute nightmare to actually diagnose correctly...
Lawrence Wells Lawrence Wells Regular
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It’s a nightmare to diagnose—since there’s no immune response to flag, and the incubation period drags on for years. Then, suddenly, the symptoms just hit you all at once—it goes from zero to sixty incredibly fast, leading to rapid progression and, ultimately, death.
Christian Wood63 Christian Wood63 Newcomer
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restlessgull82 said:Well, they’re talking about Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease on our TV news and in major American magazines, saying there are cases here in the US and that everything is being covered up... That's why I asked. What are the symptoms? What kind of tests are used? I hear it's incredibly difficult to diagnose...

There isn't much information out there because we don't fully understand the pathology yet.
All we know for certain is that specific proteins—prions—accumulate in the brain, causing degenerative changes known as spongiform encephalopathy.
No virus has been identified as the cause; they haven't found any traces of a viral genome, or at least that's the official word.
Similar conditions have been documented for ages, such as those seen in ritualistic cannibalism in New Guinea.
A lot of this stems from feeding chickens, sheep, and cattle processed feed made from the remains of other animals just to cut costs. It's a horror story, isn't it?
You can search for the name on Google or Medscape.com.
If you want to dive into the deep end and learn everything currently known, that's where you should look.
Regardless, it all starts with Central Nervous System disturbances, and then the rest follows.
Lawrence Wells Lawrence Wells Regular
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It isn't just about what you're eating—it’s actually down to gene mutations.
Christian Wood63 Christian Wood63 Newcomer
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Michelle Cook83 said:It isn't just about what people eat; we're talking about actual gene mutations here.


If this only shows up in a tiny fraction of the population, yet everyone is eating the exact same diet,
then genes are quite clearly the deciding factor.
The real question is: are we going to keep fueling this with our current food supply, or are we just waiting to trigger more mutations?

I stumbled upon this just a moment ago. It’s a fresh piece of news.

http://www.yale.edu/opa/newsr/07-01-30-02.all.html
mellowraven32 mellowraven32 Member
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No genetic sequence has been identified in the human body that actually codes for those proteins
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redhound2 redhound2 Newcomer
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Is there an actual cure for this disease?
Linda Gonzalez16 Linda Gonzalez16 Member
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redhound2 said:Is there actually a cure for this disease?

Nope, no cure. Doctors try treating symptoms with pentosan polysulfate, but honestly, it doesn't really do much.

There are a few different versions of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease:
- Sporadic (we don't know why it happens)
- Familial, meaning it's hereditary
- A newer variant (first seen back in '96, similar to "mad cow disease")
Then you've got other prion diseases out there too, like Gerstmann-Straussler-Scheinker disease, fatal familial insomnia, Kuru (from those ritualistic cannibalism practices), and scrapie in sheep.

With the classic types, the symptoms aren't super specific and the incubation period is long. You see rapid-onset dementia, personality shifts, issues with coordination and balance (ataxia), hallucinations, muscle stiffness, myoclonic jerks—which is pretty characteristic—speech problems, and so on.
The newer variant usually hits younger people and starts with psychological changes or behavioral issues before the neurological stuff kicks in later.

For diagnosis, doctors look at an EEG (looking for those triphasic spikes), maybe an MRI showing thalamic changes in the brain, or checking for the 14-3-3 protein in spinal fluid.
restlessgull82 restlessgull82 NewcomerOP
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The reason I’m bringing this up is because a young woman who lived near me—someone who was always such a bright, upbeat person—suddenly just spiraled. She started losing her coordination and basically lost control over her own body. Her Physicians sent her for an MRI and an EEG, but apparently, those came back completely clear. So then they sent her to Psychiatry, followed by the Infectious Disease ward, where she passed away just a few days ago... That’s how I heard the story, anyway. I only knew her by sight, but there was some talk about Mad Cow Disease, and of course, everything was swept under the rug, just like usual. But it makes me wonder—how is it possible that an EEG or an MRI wouldn't show a single thing when she was clearly suffering from something serious?
It’s such a bizarre, unsettling illness.
Our whole neighborhood is feeling pretty shaken up by all this, which is why I'm asking.
Linda Gonzalez16 Linda Gonzalez16 Member
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restlessgull82 said:They were hinting at Mad Cow Disease, and of course, they just swept it all under the rug like they always do...

That is such an incredibly pretentious take 👎. Come on, people...
nimblemaker52 nimblemaker52 Member
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mellowraven32 said:No genetic sequence has been identified in the human body that encodes these specific proteins.

Prion proteins are actually produced naturally within the body and serve a legitimate purpose; the issue arises only when they undergo a conformational change and lose their biological function.
Christian Wood63 Christian Wood63 Newcomer
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Anything can happen when you're dealing with a CNS disease; a person could pass away within just a few days.
We have to consider everything from encephalitis and meningitis to even BSE.
Every individual has their own unique way of failing when it comes to vital brain functions.
The underlying mechanics might be similar, but the actual progression varies wildly from one patient to the next.
restlessgull82 restlessgull82 NewcomerOP
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James Watson84 said:That’s such an incredibly pretentious claim 👎. Come on, guys...

I was just mentioning that both doctors and locals were whispering about Mad Cow disease—though apparently, it never officially broke out, much like what happened with that girl from the Democratic party... Whether it truly was Mad Cow, I honestly can't say. I'm just repeating what was being discussed at the time. Plus, her hospital records mysteriously vanished, and now nobody has a clue what actually happened to her. Look, I'm no doctor—I'm just reporting what I saw and heard firsthand. The reality is that whenever you're dealing with CNS diseases, there's always this thick veil of secrecy wrapped around everything. She isn't the first case, nor will she be the last, and sure, stories can definitely get blown out of proportion—but the fact remains that something very strange happened to that girl. All her test results came back perfectly fine, yet she passed away, and no one can explain why. As for what the actual cause was? I really don't know, which is exactly why I'm asking...😳

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