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Dealing with Escherichia coli

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electricgardener14 electricgardener14 NewcomerOP
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joined Jul 2007
#1 ·
Greetings to everyone,
I am reaching out because I’m looking for some insight regarding a hospital-acquired infection caused by Escherichia coli. My husband has been battling this for two weeks now—following surgery to address brain metastases—but we aren't seeing any progress; his fever simply refuses to break. The doctors have already cycled through three different antibiotics, yet nothing seems to be touching it. I would truly appreciate hearing about any experiences you might have had... any ideas on how to finally get rid of this damn thing.
Best regards,
electricgardener14
Lawrence Wells Lawrence Wells Regular
312 messages
joined Jun 2006
#2 ·
It really depends on which strain of Escherichia coli we're talking about. Was it being treated with methicillin?
wearycobra48 wearycobra48 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2007
#3 ·
hm... mother milk?
Scott Allen10 Scott Allen10 Regular
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joined Jun 2005
#4 ·
If we're looking at a hospital strain of *Escherichia coli*, there's a good chance it's MRSA—methicillin-resistant *Escherichia coli*. Also, you didn't mention where they actually pulled the sample from—was it blood, sputum, urine, spinal fluid, or what?
The go-to treatment here in the States is usually just Vancomycin for at least ten days or so; honestly, anything else is pretty much useless and just ends up causing more harm than good.
But look, the most important thing is being 100% sure that's the specific strain we're dealing with. Even more importantly, doctors need to look at the whole clinical picture instead of just obsessing over the antibiogram—you know, that single piece of paper that lists the bacteria and its sensitivities.
Basically, it might just be a case of colonization rather than an actual active infection. In my experience, finding MRSA in a urine sample often isn't even treated as an infection unless things look bad; if the white blood cell count or CRP levels are totally normal, there's really no reason to jump straight to antibiotics and start a heavy regimen...and so on, and so forth.
Plus, I've seen plenty of cases where someone goes through super aggressive antibiotic therapy only to end up fighting systemic fungal infections, which can be a real nightmare to get under control.
Sam Hall15 Sam Hall15 Active Member
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joined May 2006
#5 ·
Is monotherapy really the only way? For an immunocompromised patient facing a hospital-acquired infection—specifically a postoperative infection following a craniotomy—shouldn't we be looking at combined therapy instead?
Scott Allen10 Scott Allen10 Regular
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joined Jun 2005
#6 ·
Honestly, there’s usually no point in doing that. Most of the time, the period right after surgery is already covered by prophylactic doses—we're talking a standard combo of Kefzol and Efloran. And if we're dealing with a confirmed MRSA infection, nothing in the US beats Vancomycin. If a patient happens to be allergic to Vanco—which doesn't happen often, but it does—doctors might look at Teicoplanin or Linezolid, though those can get pretty pricey and sometimes have to be special ordered.
Vancomycin basically wipes out everything Gram-positive. You’d only really start adding things like Imipenem, Meronem, Cipro, or Tazobactam if the lab confirms something else is hanging around, like Pseudomonas, Serratia, or Acinetobacter. But even then, it’s all done in close coordination with the microbiologist because you have to be super careful; Vancomycin isn't exactly a "social butterfly" when it comes to playing nice with other antibiotics.

The absolute worst-case scenario for a patient is when an infectious disease specialist or a pulmonologist swings by and just starts throwing three or four different antibiotics at them because they saw it mentioned in some textbook somewhere, acting like they've cracked the code.
Scott Allen10 Scott Allen10 Regular
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joined Jun 2005
#7 ·
I totally forgot to mention—all this talk about antibiotics is pretty much a waste of time if the actual issue hasn't been handled surgically, you know? If there's an abscess hiding somewhere or if the patient is dealing with meningitis—which isn't exactly rare after these kinds of neurosurgeries—then meds alone won't cut it.

It might be worth checking in with the neurosurgeon to see what their take is, or just find out if they’ve run a recent CT scan or done a lumbar puncture lately...
Sam Hall15 Sam Hall15 Active Member
225 messages
joined May 2006
#8 ·
The situation is worsening, please evacuate immediately...
Timothy Thomas10 Timothy Thomas10 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2007
#9 ·
If they’ve isolated Escherichia coli, there really should have been an antibiogram performed on that specific strain. In that scenario, you’d want to stick with whichever antibiotic(s) the isolate actually shows sensitivity to; otherwise, Vancomycin is essentially the last resort used in those cases.
Brenda Sanders44 Brenda Sanders44 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2016
#10 ·
Hey there.
I'm dealing with this bacterial infection on my scalp, and let me tell you, it’s a nightmare—my hair is incredibly greasy and the itching is just relentless. I tried a course of Augmentin and used some Mupirocin ointment; things seemed to be looking up for a bit, but then two weeks later, everything came crashing back. I did some digging online and read that people were using some pink bubbly cleanser from Neutrogena to help out, so I grabbed some. I’ve already burned through more than half the bottle, and honestly? It hasn't done a damn thing. Has anyone actually managed to kick this nasty bacteria for good? Any natural remedies that actually work?🙏
redranger2 redranger2 Active Member
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joined Aug 2008
#11 ·
Brenda Sanders44 said:Hello!
I'm dealing with this bacterium on my scalp, which causes my hair to get incredibly greasy and leaves me with this constant, terrible itching... I took some Augmentin and tried using Mupirocin ointment... the symptoms cleared up for a bit, but they came roaring back after two weeks... I read online that some people use Neutrogena pink foaming wash for this, so I bought some... I've already gone through more than half the bottle, but there's been absolutely no improvement... has anyone actually managed to get rid of this nasty bacterium? Maybe some kind of natural remedy??🙏

I have it on my leg right now, appearing as a large red patch on the outer side. I've been taking Synergy for six days now, mostly because this thing is stubbornly resistant to just about every other antibiotic out there.

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