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northernangler17 northernangler17 Member
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joined Oct 2006
#21 ·
Jerry Martin19 said:other people's opinions, which are basically forced on readers and viewers by some kind of media dictatorship, are just taken for granted 😠

I think I get what you're getting at, but honestly, nothing can be "forced" on you unless you actually let it happen 😉 so don't even worry about it. Like Discovery said—your own opinion is the only thing that matters here. If the "masses" want to follow whatever critic says, taking it for granted and pretending it's their own idea—fine. It's not really "bad," is it? It’s just... a choice 😉 just like choosing which movies you watch! 😉

Forget all that, Jerry Martin19, just watch the movies and enjoy them. That's literally why they make them. 😉
Jerry Martin19 Jerry Martin19 RegularOP
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#22 ·
Guess I’ll listen to you guys 🙂

But honestly, as much as it sounds harsh, I hope they just get their jobs terminated 😠

Now I'm probably getting hit with a hate speech ban 🙂
Henry Campbell5 Henry Campbell5 Active Member
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joined Jun 2008
#23 ·
Jerry Martin19, listen, would you actually bother writing about the movies you absolutely love or despise? Would you even want people reading your takes and respecting your opinion? And more importantly, could you pull off being subtle about it? You can only be subtle if you actually know your stuff. To be good, you need arguments you can actually defend—spotting layers in a film that everyone else missed. That’s when a reader feels grateful because you opened their eyes, making them value your reviews and trust your word. Personally, it’s all the same as getting a movie recommendation from a buddy whose taste you actually respect, rather than some guy who just thinks a flick is great because there was a shootout, fast cars, and a hot girl.
mellowtrucker44 mellowtrucker44 Member
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joined Jun 2007
#24 ·
Henry Campbell5 said:If you ask me, it’s basically the same bullshit as when some buddy recommends a flick just because they trust their taste, or maybe they just liked it because there was a massive shootout, the cars were flying everywhere, and the lead actress was hot...

That’s why I don't really take my friends' word for anything when it comes to movies. I mean, sure, if a buddy tells me a certain film is trash, I might go into it with a little bit of skepticism, but I’m never going to skip a movie just because of someone else's opinion...

I actually have this one friend whose taste is almost identical to mine. We sat through a movie together once where he absolutely hated it, but personally, I thought it was pretty decent, even good. If I had actually listened to him, I would've missed out on a perfectly fine movie...
Jerry Martin19 Jerry Martin19 RegularOP
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joined Nov 2006
#25 ·
Henry Campbell5 said:Jerry Martin19, look, would you even bother writing about movies you absolutely love or hate? Would you actually want people reading your takes and respecting your opinion? And more importantly, would you be able to stay objective? You can only pull that off if you actually know your stuff. To be good at this, you need solid arguments you can actually defend, and you have to spot layers in a film that everyone else missed. That’s how you earn respect—when a reader feels like you’ve opened their eyes and they start looking forward to your reviews because they actually trust your perspective. Personally, I think it's all the same as getting a movie recommendation from a buddy whose taste you actually respect, rather than some guy who just thinks a flick is "cool" because there was a shootout, fast cars, and a hot actress...

How do you even get good at it? Sure, you can be a walking encyclopedia of trivia, but being a walking database doesn't make you a good critic. You can't truly interpret what a film means just by knowing facts, no matter how much fancy vocabulary you throw around. 🙂
rowdybadger41 rowdybadger41 Active Member
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joined Jan 2008
#26 ·
Jerry Martin19 said:Cerberus and Tomislav, you two are my favorites tonight... 😁

🙂
Charles Evans Charles Evans Member
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#27 ·
electriccyclist15 said:Honestly, my favorite part is when he’s mid-rant about Vertigo, and then suddenly Ilinčić starts trashing Pirate from Caribbean 3 (which, for the record, I haven't even seen yet, nor do I claim to be some huge fan), only to admit he didn't even finish watching the damn thing! I mean, seriously, how does someone have the nerve to sit there criticizing and analyzing a movie if they haven't even sat through to the credits?

If he had actually watched it all the way through, then he would have had every right to tear it apart properly. Personally, I haven't spent a single second watching it, and I can already give it a solid 0 out of 10.

No, critics aren't always making sense to me either. I once knew a guy over in Sweden who rated "300" as an absolute train wreck—he wouldn't even give it a single star out of five; he actually gave it a negative 1.
Jerry Martin19 Jerry Martin19 RegularOP
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#28 ·
Charles Evans said:Nah, critics don't always make sense to me either. Some guy over here in Sweden called "300" a total disaster—didn't even give it a single star out of five, gave it a negative one...

I just gave it a 1/10 on IMDb ☕
Charles Evans Charles Evans Member
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#29 ·
Jerry Martin19 said:Personally, I gave it a measly 1/10 on IMDb.☕

Honestly, "300" is easily the best movie of the year—it’s right up there with Apocalypto. If you're looking for anything else that can even hold a candle to those two, you've really only got The Prestige to consider.
Jerry Martin19 Jerry Martin19 RegularOP
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#30 ·
Charles Evans said:"300" is easily the best movie this year, with Apocalypto right up there. Honestly, the only other thing even close is The Prestige.

By whose standards though?... ☕
Chloe Patel36 Chloe Patel36 Member
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#31 ·
Charles Evans said:"300" is easily the best movie of the year, though maybe Apocalypto is right up there with it. Honestly, the only other thing that even comes close would be The Prestige.

man, oh man!🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Charles Evans Charles Evans Member
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joined May 2007
#32 ·
Jerry Martin19 said:By what standard? ☕

Mine.
Charles Evans Charles Evans Member
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#33 ·
Tyler Hall83 said:Oh boy, oh boy!🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Why all the laughter? Unlike most other big-budget trash you see lately, "300" actually delivers exactly what it promises. It hits those high notes with top-tier action, a killer soundtrack, and a stunning visual style. Honestly, nobody was expecting anything more than that, and we got precisely what we signed up for.
Jerry Martin19 Jerry Martin19 RegularOP
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#34 ·
Charles Evans said:Mine.

Then go ahead and give it a 10/10 if you want... personally, it’s a straight up 1 for me, and one of my main reasons is right 🙂
Jerry Martin19 Jerry Martin19 RegularOP
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#35 ·
Charles Evans said:What's there to laugh at? Unlike most other big-budget trash, "300" actually delivers exactly what was promised. Top-tier action, a killer soundtrack, and a massive visual punch. Nobody expected anything more, and we got exactly what we wanted.

You're being way too modest about a spectacle of this scale... honestly, it should have been 🙂
Charles Evans Charles Evans Member
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joined May 2007
#36 ·
Jerry Martin19 said:You're being way too picky for a spectacle of this magnitude—honestly, it should have been more like 🙂

Look, everything needs its own balance and level of ambition. From the very first time I saw the trailer for "300," I wanted it to be exactly what it turned out to be. It’s about the vibe! Here’s a perfect comment from RT that really captures why people love this movie so much:

You don't go to Hooters for the chicken wings—no matter what you tell your wife—and you certainly aren't sitting down for "300" to analyze deep plot nuances.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#37 ·
Critics are just frustrated losers who obsess over French cinema, those little melodramas about gay rights and AIDS, or Tiger and Dragon—which, if you ask me, is total garbage, even though the critics treated it like it was some masterpiece. Now everyone thinks every single Chinese movie is somehow Tiger and Dragon... 👎
Jerry Martin19 Jerry Martin19 RegularOP
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#38 ·
Richard Wilson4, give me a break. You think Tiger and Dragon is trash? That's on you. But not every Chinese movie is Tiger and Dragon (I know what you're getting at), because every Chinese film in that genre brings its own vibe regardless of the choreography. It’s that specific Chinese style they stick to—kind of like how Koreans lean into those dark horror thrillers where everything feels similar on the surface, yet every single one is actually pretty original. Saying otherwise is like saying all Spanish films are Volver just because they share a stylistic heritage...
Jerry Martin19 Jerry Martin19 RegularOP
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#39 ·
Charles Evans said:Everything needs balance. Honestly, from the moment I saw the first trailer for "300," I just wanted it to be exactly what it promised. Here’s a comment from RT that pretty much sums up why people dig this movie:

You don't go to Hooters for the chicken wings—no matter what you tell your wife—and you aren't going to 300 for the deep plot nuances.

Should I probably take that advice to heart?
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#40 ·
Jerry Martin19 said:Richard Wilson4, man, you're tripping. You think Tiger and Dragon is trash? That's on you. But hey, not every single Chinese movie is Tiger and Dragon (if you catch my drift). Every Chinese flick in that genre has its own vibe, regardless of the fight choreography. It’s just that specific Chinese style they stick to. It's like how Koreans lean into those dark horror thrillers—they all feel similar at first glance, but honestly, every single one is pretty unique. Saying otherwise is like saying every Spanish movie is Volver just because they share a certain stylistic DNA.

Honestly, Koreans, Japanese, even Hong Kongers (though maybe not like they used to be) are just on another level compared to Chinese cinema...

The Korean movie Lost brotherhood is easily one of the best war films I've ever seen. It's a real story, too. I'd even go as far as calling it a heavy drama.
Takeshi Kitano is hands down one of the best Asian actors and directors out there...
Hong Kong's glory days might be fading, but they're still holding their own...

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