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Metastasis: Any hope for treatment?

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Participants Amy Roberts6Charles Edwards8neonrider13lonebadger6Angela Wrightrowdygull10Steven Murphy
Amy Roberts6 Amy Roberts6 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Two years ago, my mother underwent surgery for lymphoma. Now, it’s back, necessitating another operation six months ago—and now, we’re facing a new reality where it has metastasized to her spine (specifically the L4 and L5 vertebrae). Just a day before her recent surgery, the pain was so excruciating that even morphine couldn't touch it. Today, she had the procedure done, and while the pain has finally subsided, the doctor refused to offer any specific prognosis—he simply stated that chemotherapy and radiation are the next steps on the agenda.

Does anyone here have similar experiences or insight into what comes next?
Is this the end of the road?
Charles Edwards8 Charles Edwards8 Member
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#2 ·
Since I’ve dealt with my own battles with cancer, I know firsthand that getting a rock-solid diagnosis is everything. There are massive mistakes made in the process all the time, it's true, but I'll stick to what you wrote without playing guessing games. If you want to keep posting here or just shoot me a private message, go for it. One thing is for sure, though: doctors find it incredibly tough to give any kind of prognosis in these situations, and chemo or radiation are usually the next steps on the table.
As for whether this is the end of the road? You're going to get all sorts of subjective opinions, but if you actually want a meaningful answer, you've got to be more specific about what's going on. Based on what you said, I'm guessing we might be looking at some kind of lymphoma, but I can't say much else until we have a clear diagnosis.

Mary
neonrider13 neonrider13 Member
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#3 ·
What’s the exact diagnosis we're looking at here? And where exactly is the primary tumor located?
Basically, when you're dealing with lymphomas—whether it's Hodgkin or non-Hodgkin—surgery isn't usually the go-to move. Most of the time, doctors lean heavily on chemotherapy, and occasionally they'll mix in some radio-chemotherapy too.
So, just to clarify—are we talking about metastases in the lymph nodes that were actually surgically removed? What kind of procedure did they end up doing?
lonebadger6 lonebadger6 Active Member
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#4 ·
If we're talking about Hodgkin, there's actually a way through even in the most severe stages...
As for non-Hodgkin, it’s impossible to say without a specific diagnosis, though realistically, the odds aren't exactly in your favor...
Amy Roberts6 Amy Roberts6 NewcomerOP
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#5 ·
Here is the situation: my mother underwent two surgeries on her breast—the most recent one involved removing the lymph nodes under her arm. According to her doctor, the procedure was an absolute success. Following that, she went through chemotherapy and interferon treatments—I can't recall if it was 3mg or 3cc, but she managed five sessions before her white blood cell count plummeted to one, forcing them to halt everything. We moved on to radiation, completing 25 sessions, during which she began experiencing intense bone pain. It didn't even take a month before the lower back pain kicked in; after running X-rays, ultrasounds, and CT scans, her physician suggested it might be nerve compression or perhaps some spinal damage. The pain became so unbearable that even Tramadol—the stuff they give you before morphine—didn't touch it. At that point, we drove straight to a major medical center in Chicago; they took her in immediately without even asking for her paperwork, which we provided later. The agony continued unabated, so we eventually requested an anesthesiologist to put her under because even morphine wasn't working. She had surgery two days ago and now requires a brace just to function.
Now, the doctors are calling this "atypical." After the operation, the neurosurgeon indicated it looks like metastasis, and we are currently waiting on the pathology results from the university hospital.
Meanwhile, the plastic surgeon who handled the lymph node removal is in total disbelief that things could have escalated this rapidly.

I’ve heard whispers about certain medicinal mushrooms, and there's talk of a clinic in Europe offering a treatment based on minerals—or something similar—that supposedly helps and even cures.
I realize people tend to grasp at straws in these desperate moments, but there are also those who profit from such misery. I decided to post this here to see if anyone else has dealt with a trajectory quite like this.
Amy Roberts6 Amy Roberts6 NewcomerOP
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#6 ·
Ad Copy:
The Mushroom Against Metastasis

Available now: dried Ganoderma Lucidum—also known as REISHI. It is guaranteed to assist in the treatment of malignant conditions, including carcinomas and metastases. In the global market, it remains the most sought-after specimen due to its extraordinary medicinal properties—Igor
Amy Roberts6 Amy Roberts6 NewcomerOP
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#7 ·
Has any of this actually worked? Has anyone here actually tried using this stuff—and more importantly, could it potentially help with my specific situation?
http://www.vjesnik.com/Razno/SL/Megamin/PDF/006.pdf
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
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#8 ·
Gerald Hernandez32 said:Ad text:
Mushroom against metastases

Selling dried Ganoderma Lucidum-REISHI medicinal mushrooms. Guaranteed to assist in treating malignant diseases, carcinoma, and metastases. It is the most sought-after mushroom globally due to its extreme healing properties, Igor

Don't fall for this kind of garbage where someone guarantees a cure for cancer. If that were actually true, you can bet your life some ambitious scientist—or more likely, a massive, profit-hungry pharmaceutical giant like Pfizer—would have jumped on it immediately to grab the cash, and that scientist would be walking up to accept a Nobel Prize. People wouldn't be dying from cancer if this worked. The sick, twisted mind behind an ad like this is just preying on the desperation of people who feel helpless, trying to squeeze every last cent out of their misery. Sure, it might serve as a decent antioxidant supplement to help you weather the storm of chemo and radiation, but that's about it.
rowdygull10 rowdygull10 Newcomer
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#9 ·
hm..
So, I’m offering (not selling!) this mushroom called the Tibetan Mushroom. Not sure if you guys have heard of it, but long story short: an Englishman brought it back from Tibet after it helped him beat cancer. Now, what I can tell you for certain is that it really helps bring down cholesterol and stuff like that—blood sugar, all that good stuff. My parents' lab results have improved massively since they started taking it! My sister actually tried it too (she's dealing with a soft tissue tumor), but she ended up stopping because she’s already on a ton of other supplements, like those Dr. Breuss products, and maybe her stomach just couldn't handle any more. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that it's totally worth a shot. If anyone wants some, just shoot me a DM and we'll work something out
Charles Edwards8 Charles Edwards8 Member
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#10 ·
Here’s my take on this, Amy Roberts6. I haven't managed to find out exactly what kind of tumor we're dealing with or what the initial pathology report actually said yet, but I'll keep you posted. It’s busted. Let's talk about metastases.

Just take this as my two cents, okay? We really should wait until those hospital pH results come back before making any big calls.

Honestly, I find it a little weird when you say even morphine wasn't doing the trick for the pain. I get that Tridol isn't exactly a stepping stone to morphine, but hey, that’s probably not even the point right now.

I totally get that you want to do everything possible to help your mom out, but honestly? I wouldn’t touch any kind of mushroom supplements right now—especially not Megamin. I know some people might disagree with me on this one, but look, there’s been huge debates over those stuff before. Doctors have even gone on record calling them out publicly. Plus, the American pharmacological community has been super clear and laid out their arguments against using Megamin quite thoroughly. Just be careful!
Just your run-of-the-mill placebo effect.
Steven Murphy Steven Murphy Newcomer
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#11 ·
Angela Wright said:Don't fall for those articles where someone promises you a guaranteed cure for cancer. If that were actually true, wouldn't some ambitious scientist—especially one hungry for funding from Big Pharma—have jumped on it already? That researcher would be eyeing a Nobel Prize, and we wouldn't have people dying from cancer anymore... The twisted minds behind ads like that are just preying on the desperation of sick people to squeeze out a few extra bucks. Now, could it be a decent antioxidant? Sure. Maybe as a supplement to help you weather the storm of chemo or radiation.

I’m with Charles Edwards8 on this one; for now, just wait for the PhD results so we can figure out what we're actually dealing with. As for the claim that REISHI (Ganoderma) is merely an antioxidant—well, I don't think that's quite right. Reishi has been used for centuries in traditional medicine, and its most vital component is the polysaccharide structure of its cell wall, which primarily functions as an immunostimulant.
Unfortunately, I can't give you a definitive yes or no on whether it's a solution for tumor-related illnesses!

But I should point out that using medicinal mushrooms is a standard practice in the Far East. In Japan, certain mushroom extracts are even recognized as supplements in tumor therapies, allowing patients to potentially get their money back through tax deductions.
Steven Murphy Steven Murphy Newcomer
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#12 ·
Wait, I just realized—this whole thing is part of a propaganda campaign!
Amy Roberts6 started this entire thread about lymphoma just as a setup to sneak in a message about mushrooms later on!!
YOU'RE BUSTED
Charles Edwards8 Charles Edwards8 Member
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#13 ·
I’m pretty sure this isn't just some propaganda stunt. If you actually take a second to read through all the posts, you'll see that Amy Roberts6 is genuinely looking for help. It's not just about the mushrooms either; Megamin gets brought up too.
Amy Roberts6 Amy Roberts6 NewcomerOP
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#14 ·
Steven Murphy said:it just dawned on me—this whole thing is nothing more than propaganda.
Amy Roberts6 kicked off this thread about lymphoma just to pivot toward pitching some fungus remedy later on.
YOU'RE BUSTED.

IF ONLY it were that simple—I’d have a billboard up on my front door and be strolling through Times Square right now.

I'm waiting on my pH results; there aren't enough hours in the day to keep up with everything (including this forum), but it strikes me how little information is actually out there regarding this disease—unless, of course, my grasp of English isn't quite as sharp as I think it is.

THANKS to everyone for the comments.

A man will grab at any straw when he's backed into a corner.
Charles Edwards8 Charles Edwards8 Member
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#15 ·
Hey Zlix, if you want to dig deeper into what this disease is actually all about, just shoot me a DM!

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