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Drug Policy: Safe Injection Sites (SIS)

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Megan Reed Megan Reed Active Member
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#41 ·
Honestly, I’d just scrap the whole public system entirely and switch exclusively to private insurance; then you'd see how things really work—it'd be a pure "pay-to-play" scenario where the money talks. 😬 but that's just me. 🥳
Megan Reed Megan Reed Active Member
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#42 ·
Yeah, obviously, I’m always watching my step when I’m walking through the local parks. 😬

And honestly, I pretty much only hang out with former addicts these days. 😳 😬
Edward Green Edward Green Regular
335 messages
joined Sep 2008
#43 ·
Megan Reed said:I’d honestly scrap all the public stuff and move strictly to private insurance. Then it’s simple: you get what you pay for. 😬 but that's just me. 🥳

Natural selection at work. If you can't afford it, die.

Don't you follow that logic yourself?
amberorca192 amberorca192 Active Member
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joined Oct 2005
#44 ·
Megan Reed said:Yeah, honestly? I’m super careful about where I step when I’m walking through local parks. 😬

And yeah, I mostly just hang out with former addicts anyway. 😳 😬

I don't know about you, but in my small town, I see kids hanging around the parks and messing around near the fences all the time. It wouldn't take much for some curious kid to pick up a discarded insulin needle while they're playing, and then someone else gets stuck with it. Now, how likely is it that you'd actually catch something from a stray needle? Who knows. But seeing used needles just sitting in the middle of a field or a playground is definitely not a great look. Unfortunately, there isn't really a designated spot to dispose of them properly, so they just end up wherever they land.
stormywolf39 stormywolf39 Member
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joined Dec 2008
#45 ·
Edward Green said:I don't see any point in continuing this conversation with you. 👋

Look, I’ve known people who died or ended up in rehab because of stuff like this. If it were up to me, making sure they stayed "safe" by keeping quiet would be the absolute last thing on my mind. I don't know about you, but for me, this isn't some moral dilemma—it's just common sense.
stormywolf39 stormywolf39 Member
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joined Dec 2008
#46 ·
Edward Green said:Natural selection. If you’re broke, you die.

So, you don't do that?


No. If you're short on cash, you just think twice before engaging in high-risk lifestyle choices—I'm not talking about your job here, I mean things like smoking or heavy drinking.
Edward Green Edward Green Regular
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joined Sep 2008
#47 ·
stormywolf39 said:a few people I know died

Positive outcome. 🙂
stormywolf39 stormywolf39 Member
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#48 ·
Honestly, my heart breaks way more for those few who actually made it out, only to be left completely burned by everything. 😢
Megan Reed Megan Reed Active Member
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#49 ·
amberorca192 said:I can't speak for you, but in my small town, I see kids hanging out by the parks or wandering near fences all the time. It wouldn't take much for some curious kid to grab a vial of insulin just to play around, and then someone ends up getting hurt.

The solution would be simple: just set up a dedicated bin for medical waste right next to the standard recycling bins for glass, paper, and plastic. 😍 😬

But I really want to know—even if we had a secure spot for disposing of this stuff, would people actually bother using it? 🤔 Or would this only ever work if it were handled within those specific facilities?
Edward Green Edward Green Regular
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#50 ·
They should just toss a medical waste bin right next to the glass, paper, and plastic recycling containers.

I mean, those bins are in every single park anyway. It would make it easy for everyone to just use them.
Megan Reed Megan Reed Active Member
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#51 ·
Edward Green said:Natural selection at work. If you can't afford it, you die.

Exactly. That’s precisely the direction this country is heading. Or did you just not bother to check what actually stays "free" under our healthcare system? Spoiler alert: not much.

Edward Green said:So you don't?

No, but I have my parents looking out for me while I finish my degree. And once I'm done, I actually have these wild dreams of living off my own paycheck.🥳
amberorca192 amberorca192 Active Member
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joined Oct 2005
#52 ·
Megan Reed said:then they should just toss a bin for medical waste right next to the glass, paper, and plastic recycling. 😍 😬

But I’m actually wondering—if there were a designated spot for safe disposal, would people even bother? 🤔 Or would it only work if it was kept inside those rooms?

Some people wouldn't use it either. Just like how some folks—who aren't even addicts—won't bother putting soda bottles, candy wrappers, gum, or cigarette butts in the trash and just litter everywhere instead. Honestly, what a joke. Some people are just animals, whether they're junkies or the "cool kids" in the wards.
Edward Green Edward Green Regular
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#53 ·
Megan Reed said:Sure, that's exactly how we're playing it.

Great. Just wonderful. I'm absolutely thrilled.
Edward Green Edward Green Regular
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joined Sep 2008
#54 ·
Megan Reed said:I mean, diabetics can barely even get their damn test strips

Then let them buy their own. 🙂
That's why I'd scrap the whole public system, move strictly to private insurance, and then it’s just simple math—you pay to play.

I’d love to see you try explaining to a parent with a kid fighting cancer that it’s perfectly fine for that child to die just because they can't swing the bill. 🙂
stormywolf39 stormywolf39 Member
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#55 ·
Man, honestly? It would've been better left in the pitch black. 😢 😁
stormywolf39 stormywolf39 Member
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#56 ·
Edward Green said:I’d love to see you try explaining to a parent whose kid has cancer that it’s perfectly fine for the child to die just because they can't afford the medical bills.🙂


Unfortunately, in America, that’s just business as usual.
Edward Green Edward Green Regular
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joined Sep 2008
#57 ·
stormywolf39 said:unfortunately, that's just business as usual in America

The keyword there is "unfortunately."

To me, it's an absolute nightmare. Knowing there’s a way to help you or someone close to you, but you just can't afford it? That's disgusting. So much for being a "civilized" society. 😠 🤮
Hannah Davis18 Hannah Davis18 Active Member
170 messages
joined Sep 2008
#58 ·
Totally.
Denmark’s been doing this for years now.
It gets people off the streets and keeps things somewhat under control, plus the public doesn't have to deal with someone injecting right there at a playground, and they can actually talk to the dealers.
If I had an addict in my house, I’d honestly prefer they had a place like that; instead of just being left out somewhere in the gutter without any medical help if things go south.
rustymoose54 rustymoose54 Active Member
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joined Jun 2006
#59 ·
Edward Green said:Let them buy it then. 🙂

😈 But seriously, what do you mean "buy it"? I need at least double whatever Medicare covers just to get some decent regulation—you know, stuff that actually keeps me from ending up in the ER with complications that would force me to miss work... which means Medicare ends up paying my disability instead. It's a whole cycle...

Edward Green, look, I know you were being sarcastic about the diabetics, but honestly? I'm with you on this one. Letting junkies have a "safe" way to shoot up should actually cut down on the costs we’re all footing right now—taxpayers like us—to treat them for Hepatitis and all that other nasty business... and it's not just about them, either. It's about their partners who aren't necessarily some filthy, bottom-of-the-barrel addicts themselves 😉
Megan Reed Megan Reed Active Member
170 messages
joined Sep 2005
#60 ·
Edward Green said:Let them pay for it themselves. 🙂

Oh, I get it—it's because diabetics are just bad people who chose this lifestyle and diet specifically to earn their illness, so the government shouldn't have to cover their insulin strips 😍 since we should instead use that tax money to build a dedicated lounge for junkies where they can shoot up without a care in the world. 😍

Edward Green said:You're basically telling a parent whose child has cancer that it's perfectly fine for that kid to die just because the family can't afford the medical bills.

Right, because I've certainly never heard of a single charity drive, benefit concert, or whatever else where people raised money to send a child for surgery. 🥳

I guess that's because the government covers everything for them, right?

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