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gentlecrane25 gentlecrane25 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2008
#221 ·
Sandra Gomez56 said:Are you actually serious right now???? What does "recreational" even mean? Like, sometimes I want to, and sometimes I don't? What if tomorrow I decide I want something stronger for my "recreation"? Look, I'm not saying it shouldn't be legal in the Netherlands—that's a world away—but I'm talking about our own backyard here. It sucks that we aren't on the same page, but that's just how I see it. I really wish I could just say, "Hey, you were right for once."

Look, I've been smoking weed "recreationally" for ten years now—maybe five times a year, tops—and it never even crossed my mind to try anything else. Just saying, when I'm high, my brain hits 100 miles per hour; some of my absolute best business breakthroughs happened while I was stoned. I'm self-employed, things are going great, and I don't see any issue with lighting up once in a while. If someone wants to buy weed, they can find it just by asking for "cookies," so honestly, it would be way better to just legalize it. That way the government actually gets a cut instead of just all the dealers. Though, let's be real, in this country, some politician would probably end up being the exclusive distributor anyway.
Alex Fox4 Alex Fox4 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2008
#222 ·
Sandra Gomez56 said:Are you truly certain about what you're saying here? I'm struggling to grasp what you mean by "recreational" use—is it a matter of wanting it occasionally or not at all? And what happens if, down the road, you find yourself craving something more potent? While I don't object to it being legal in the Netherlands, that is a world away from our own immediate surroundings. It saddens me that we can't see eye to eye on this, but this is simply where I stand. I suppose I would love nothing more than to one day hear you admit that I was right.

I am quite certain of my position... there is no chance I will suddenly develop a desire for something stronger, and besides, one doesn't need marijuana to fall into destructive habits. To me, recreational use implies something moderate, perhaps similar to how gentlecrane25 might approach things, rather than a constant, daily dependency.
I would certainly welcome the opportunity to have you tell me that I was right for once.😁
stormyheron4 stormyheron4 Active Member
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joined Aug 2009
#223 ·
Alex Fox4 said:There's zero proof that weed kills brain cells. Period.

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. It doesn't necessarily kill them, but the brains of chronic smokers are objectively smaller than those of regular people. Plus, there’s a massive chance they end up having kids with serious developmental issues. It's all been proven.
Alex Fox4 Alex Fox4 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2008
#224 ·
stormyheron4 said:Go ahead and take comfort in that if you must, but I don't think it's about destruction so much as it is about how heavy drug use simply shrinks the brain compared to an average person. On top of that, there are significantly higher risks of birth defects in children born to those users. It’s all been scientifically proven.

I honestly don't even know what to say besides, haha.
stormyheron4 stormyheron4 Active Member
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joined Aug 2009
#225 ·
Alex Fox4 said:I’ll just say lol hahahah

😂 Honestly, the main thing is that it's fun 😂
Andrew Morris24 Andrew Morris24 Newcomer
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joined May 2009
#226 ·
I used to be just another programmed individual, shaped entirely by the media narratives and information streams fed to us through our fantastical news outlets. People don't even realize the extent to which we've been conditioned—and I’m not just talking about marijuana, but practically everything. Then, driven by this egoistic need to prove how "smart" we are because we follow the media and absorb their supposed 'objectivity,' people swear on their lives that they’ve personally discovered and researched all these truths, when they haven't. For instance, I used to think marijuana was dangerous; I feared that if I tried it, I’d become an addict, spiral into harder drugs, turn my brain into a shriveled, useless mass, lose touch with reality, and completely ruin my life. None of that happened, nor do I see any such consequences. Of course, weed can destroy a person's life if you aren't moderate. Not necessarily because it physically or mentally breaks you, but simply because of the inherent danger of excess in anything. Even water can kill you if you overdo it. And people constantly forget that the quality of product on the American market is incredibly questionable; people talk about specific strains like they're connoisseurs, claiming they're smoking some premium skunk, but it's all highly dubious. If you buy decent herb, people call it top-shelf; if you happen to get a pure female plant, they assume it's high-grade skunk—it's all guesswork. I honestly wouldn't trust the quality of most products sold out here. There are so many different varieties with wildly different effects. All these self-proclaimed experts who claim a joint is equivalent to five cigarettes, or that weed destroys the brain and leads straight to hard drugs, clearly haven't done any deep research into the actual characteristics of cannabis; they’ve just read those fairy tales on some website or heard them on the nightly news. Naturally, those narratives are the most widespread globally because legalization doesn't benefit anyone except ordinary people who want to smoke peacefully or patients for whom marijuana could provide relief—specifically because the chemical compounds in the plant aren't limited to just THC. Everyone else loses: from the massive pharmaceutical giants like Pfizer that keep us all buying their pills—only a tiny fraction of medicines are derived from natural resources, and ever wonder why? It isn't because synthetic drugs work better, it's because there's more money in them. The same goes for other industries: cotton, paper, fuel... Even the dealers don't benefit from stricter laws; it just means less profit for them.
I am in favor of decriminalization, specifically so that the quality of the product remains high and the price stays affordable for average Americans.
The current laws make absolutely no sense; nothing has been achieved with them. User numbers haven't dropped, there is zero control over drugs, and no real deterrent has been instilled in the public. Not to mention that the majority of charges against minor users are dismissed anyway, because judges clearly see the absurdity of the law—and besides, where would we even put all these people? Unless we start building new prison islands in the middle of the Atlantic. The only thing that has actually been achieved is that dealers are making more money than ever, and I'm certain some politicians are lining their pockets with kickbacks too.

Thankfully, thanks to the internet and the vast amount of information available that our mainstream media failed to mention, people's awareness is rising regarding many issues, including marijuana. Change is coming, and I hope it happens sooner rather than later.
Karen Edwards59 Karen Edwards59 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2011
#227 ·
Mad respect to my friend 😘
I’m right there with you on everything you said... I really try to show people that things don't always have to go the way everyone else dictates, but lately, it feels like most folks just choose to follow the herd instead of actually using their own heads...
Scott Allen10 Scott Allen10 Regular
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joined Jun 2005
#228 ·
I’m really not feeling this whole argument, so I think it’s best if we just lock this thread down...

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