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Yasujiro Ozu

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Andrew Booth12 Andrew Booth12 NewcomerOP
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#21 ·
His approach to filmmaking is pure genius, serving as a blueprint for directors all over the world😉
goldenhound32 goldenhound32 Regular
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#22 ·
Andrew Booth12 said:His approach to filmmaking is nothing short of genius—a masterclass that continues to serve as a blueprint for directors across the globe. 😉

I fail to see the genius in it. The man simply sets up a camera in a room and records whoever happens to wander in. That's it. 🙂

Just because something is different doesn't mean it's better.

I’ve heard the rumors that certain directors look up to him as a major influence, though I can’t quite pull a specific name out of my memory right now. Could anyone provide a few examples?

I hear from people who have actually sat through his filmography that there’s a certain repetitive quality to his work—every movie follows essentially the same formula. It’s a frustrating realization, really. Even knowing the history, that lack of variety makes it difficult for me to truly respect him as a director.
Andrew Booth12 Andrew Booth12 NewcomerOP
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#23 ·
They’re mostly American, with some German influence, but that’s beside the point since I’m hardly a film director myself,
so I don't find the same things in Yasujiro Ozu films that someone else might. For me, they worked
because of the atmosphere, the pacing, and a very specific sensibility that you clearly just don't grasp.
You simply aren't on that same wavelength, because as Matsuo Basho once said:

Since ancient times, those who possess a sense for
sophistication... find pleasure in discovering the truth of things
and their perception of them... 😉
Paul Evans2 Paul Evans2 Newcomer
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#24 ·
So far, I’ve only managed to catch "I Was Born But..." on the big screen 😬 (it was part of some film festival in Chicago, if I remember right!)

But I finally picked up a copy of Citizen Kane... I am seriously dying to watch it! 🙂
Joseph Lee3 Joseph Lee3 Active Member
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#25 ·
It’s not like you just set up a tripod and hope for the best. His approach to blocking and staging is incredibly meticulous, almost punishingly so. Those low-angle shots he favors are practically his signature at this point. Personally, I found his return to a more theatrical style of storytelling—where the action feels staged rather than captured—to be a fascinating pivot.
Kate Torres Kate Torres Member
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#26 ·
goldenhound32 said:I know he’s an inspiration to some directors, but I can't think of any specific names. Can anyone give me a few examples?

He was actually the biggest influence on Wim Wenders; he even filmed a tribute documentary for him, Tokyo Story.
Andrew Booth12 Andrew Booth12 NewcomerOP
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#27 ·
I’m with you there, Joseph Lee3; it's as simple as that.
In reality, people reveal everything about their own character just by the way they comment.😉
goldenhound32 goldenhound32 Regular
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#28 ·
Andrew Booth12 said:mostly American, maybe some German, but that’s beside the point—I’m hardly a film director myself.

It would be far more elegant if you could actually substantiate your claims with evidence. You might find yourself a more formidable debater, and I, perhaps, might actually learn something.

You don't know me.

Your argument implies that "anyone who understands what Yasujiro Ozu is doing must love his work," which is simply untrue. For instance, I understand him perfectly, and yet, I don't particularly care for it.
goldenhound32 goldenhound32 Regular
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#29 ·
Kevin Lopez43 said:Wim Wenders is my ultimate North Star. He even went so far as to film a documentary as a tribute to him. Tokyo Story

Thanks for the heads-up. 🙂

Even Kairos captured a tribute to Yasujiro Ozu. I watched it, and honestly, I found myself quite taken with it. If anyone is interested, there’s more available on IMDb.
goldenhound32 goldenhound32 Regular
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#30 ·
Brenda Lee50 said:It isn't quite as simple as just setting up a camera and waiting for people to wander into the frame. It requires an incredibly demanding level of planning and mise-en-scène.

The emoticon is there for a reason.

Just because something is difficult to execute doesn't mean it's actually good. Take a look at some overproduced prog-metal by Dream Theater, for instance. High effort, questionable result.

And let me be clear: I am not claiming that Yasujiro Ozu is a bad director. I think he was masterful at doing exactly what he set out to do. It’s just that I don't particularly enjoy the result.

his low-angle "tatami" shots are almost unique

Do you have a specific example from Citizen Kane? That was the last one I watched, so my memory of his framing is a bit hazy.
Andrew Booth12 Andrew Booth12 NewcomerOP
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#31 ·
Look, I’m not making some grand proclamation here; this is strictly just my own personal take,
alright, maybe you actually grasp the nuances of what Yasujiro Ozu is doing, and nobody is out there claiming you're obligated to enjoy his work,

so, what kind of films actually do it for you, and which directors do you truly respect?
Kate Torres Kate Torres Member
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#32 ·
goldenhound32 said:Thanks for the heads-up. 🙂

Even Kairos shot a tribute to Yasujiro Ozu. I watched it and actually enjoyed it. If anyone is interested, there’s more available on IMDb.

It just crossed my mind that he actually was. Hou Hsiao-hsien The film was dedicated to him. Café LumièreIt’s honestly pretty sad when you think about it—this marks three different dedications already. I can't remember anyone ever being able to claim that for themselves.
goldenhound32 goldenhound32 Regular
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#33 ·
Kevin Lopez43 said:Now that I think about it, we’re looking at three different dedications here. I don't recall anyone being able to claim that kind of recognition for themselves.

Well, even Yasujiro Ozu can't claim that privilege.🙂

The fact that at least three major directors chose to dedicate films to him doesn't actually validate his filmography; it simply reflects how much those three specific individuals admired his work.

Consider this one example. There are people on this forum who absolutely worship David Lynch, and Lynch happens to be a fan of Rammstein. So what? Does that suddenly mean Rammstein is objectively good to every single Lynch devotee?
goldenhound32 goldenhound32 Regular
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#34 ·
Andrew Booth12 said:I’m not making a definitive claim here; it is merely my own opinion.

On what basis? I should like to know. You mentioned certain American directors who consider Yasujiro Ozu to be an influence...

What sort of films do you enjoy, and which directors do you hold in high regard?

This discussion is not intended to be a catalog of my personal preferences or the directors I favor. However, if you are truly so curious, you might browse my profile to find posts that will provide the answer you seek. There are plenty of them, as the vast majority of my contributions are located within this specific sub-forum.
Andrew Booth12 Andrew Booth12 NewcomerOP
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#35 ·
But you’re totally missing the point,
look, I fell in love with Yasujiro Ozu’s work first, and only later did I read all those pretentious takes claiming he’s some holy grail for
intellectuals—directors who act like he’s their patron saint (which, by the way, I’ll explain to you later),
but what actually drew me to Ozu was the raw portrayal of everyday life in America, the subtle social shifts similar to
what we see in modern society, and that light touch of Americanization. It was only through Ozu that I truly grasped the nuance of phrases used when arriving at or
leaving a home; this fascinated me because I was studying the language, and it ended up being incredibly useful when
I traveled through the States, since I actually knew how to carry myself and didn't need anyone to constantly explain

besides, my appreciation for his films is purely intuitive. Talking about it feels foolish, doesn't it? Because
the Tao that can be explained with words is not the true Tao. 😉
Kate Torres Kate Torres Member
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#36 ·
goldenhound32 said:even Ozu doesn't count🙂

The fact that at least three major directors dedicated films to him says nothing about the quality of his work; it just shows how much those three specific people liked him.

Here's an example. Some people on this forum absolutely worship David Lynch, and Lynch happens to like Rammstein. So what? Does that mean every Lynch fan suddenly has to think Rammstein is good?

That wasn't even my main point; I was just making a side observation while writing in this thread. To be honest, I'm not a fan either. As for Rammstein, everyone knows they're total garbage.😁
Andrew Booth12 Andrew Booth12 NewcomerOP
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#37 ·
Yasujiro Ozu is the absolute king—the master of outer space itself. Everything else? Just empty noise. 🙂
Amanda Robinson4 Amanda Robinson4 Active Member
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#38 ·
After hesitating for a few months, I finally sat down and watched Citizen Kane. I wasn’t really familiar with his filmography before this, but after doing some deep dives online and clicking through endless random links filled with people raving about his genius, I figured it was time...

I wouldn't say I'm blown away, but I definitely get why he's considered such a legend. The theme is pretty straightforward, and the way the story unfolds is just as simple. I think that’s actually where the magic lies—just showing everyday life in this nostalgic, yet totally non-melodramatic way.

Honestly, though, I found myself focusing most on the technical side of things. The camera work and the editing style are just fascinating. From the static shots and specific motifs to the frequent framing—you know, those mid and close-ups—down to the clever ellipses and that subtle music that creeps out of the silence right at the end of a scene to transition into the next... 😬

In the end, it’s really easy to get swept up in the story. It felt like I was getting a genuine glimpse into an American family living out their typical daily lives...

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