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Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Traditional Chinese medicine revolves around three main pillars:
-herbal remedies
-acupuncture
-massage therapy

Why don't we have anything similar here? Why do we blindly copy the West in everything, even when modern medicine is increasingly struggling to keep up with alternative approaches? 😲
A Anonymous Veteran
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#2 ·
More specifically, it’s built on the principles of Yin and Yang, alongside the laws governing how the five elements interact.
That said, I’m sure there are people here who can break this down much better than I can.
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
Oleander said:More specifically, it’s based on Yin and Yang, along with specific laws and the interaction of the five elements.
But I'm sure there are people here who can explain this much better than I can.

Which five elements? I haven't the slightest clue.

😉
Gerald Palmer3 Gerald Palmer3 Member
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#4 ·
Honestly, if you put in a little effort, I’m pretty sure you’ll track down someone who specializes in that. 🙄 There are definitely people out there; I personally know plenty of folks who have tried acupuncture or experimented with different herbal teas and stuff like that.
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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#5 ·
Gerald Palmer3 said:If you put in the effort, I bet you'll find someone who specializes in that. 🙄 There are definitely people out there; I know plenty who have tried acupuncture or various herbal teas.

I know quite a few people like that. To be honest though, I don't know anyone who has actually tried acupuncture. Personally, the idea of being poked with those needles scares me a bit.🙂

The only thing I'd really be interested in is getting a great massage from a Chinese practitioner.😉
wiredsailor7 wiredsailor7 Member
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#6 ·
Amy Fox97:
Why don't we have anything like this here? Why is it that we just blindly mimic the West in everything, including official medicine—even though mainstream medicine is increasingly losing ground to alternative approaches?

We have our own alternative medicine too, it’s just been forgotten. It wasn't documented much, and knowledge hasn't been passed down from one generation to the next.
Take, for example, what's currently airing on the German second channel, PBS, on Sundays at 7:30 PM.
They're broadcasting a documentary series specifically about alternative medicine. So far, they've showcased ancient healing traditions from India, Iran, and South America. The healers in those old cultures knew exactly which plant could treat which ailment and how.
It wasn't just plants, either. They used techniques like Indian-style massage: "ayurveda," where they slowly pour warm or cool herbal oils onto specific parts of the body, or using heated stones placed strategically across the body.
Nowadays, top doctors in the States are studying these ancient practices using modern technology. They're planting those medicinal herbs and packaging them as part of a tourist experience to fund new projects.
Those ancient cultures have always occupied those regions, and they learned how to live in harmony with nature.
Today, people live right next to nature but choose to just swallow pills hoping for the best while ignoring the side effects, or popping synthetic vitamins... I won't go any further, or I'll end up drifting into economics, politics, and healthcare... and then I'll lose my mind.
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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#7 ·
wiredsailor7 said:Mainstream doctors here are basically blending ancient medicinal wisdom with modern tech. They grow these plants and market them as part of the local tourism experience to fund new projects.
Those traditional cultures have always been rooted in this land, learning how to live in total harmony with nature.
Meanwhile, the rest of the West lives right next to nature but chooses to just pop pills and ignore the warning signs, relying on synthetic vitamins instead... I won't go any further before I start spiraling into economics, politics, and healthcare... I'll lose my mind.


So... things are actually moving.
wiredsailor7 wiredsailor7 Member
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#8 ·
It all started a few years back. Big Pharma companies began digging into natural compounds that supposedly boost potency—stuff like rhino horns, specific lizard eggs, or some wild concoction of exotic plants. After all that expensive research, what did they actually end up with? Viagra.
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Jessica Wood6 Jessica Wood6 Newcomer
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#10 ·
wiredsailor7 said:This whole thing actually started several years ago. You had these massive pharmaceutical giants scouring the earth for natural ingredients that were supposedly capable of boosting potency—things like rhino horns, specific lizard eggs paired with certain botanical extracts, you name it... and what did they ultimately end up with? Viagra.

I suppose one might wonder how that relates to my specific topic. I truly believe we shouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions or let biases cloud our judgment here.
Kenneth Hernandez67 Kenneth Hernandez67 Regular
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#11 ·
Jessica Wood6 said:What does any of that have to do with my topic? You shouldn't be so biased.

YOUR topic 😕

The only bias I have is toward clones. ☕
dustybison15 dustybison15 Newcomer
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#12 ·
Amy Fox97 says:
What do you mean I have no clue about the five elements?

Aside from everything else, those five elements represent the five seasons.

Wood = Spring
Fire = Summer
Earth = Late summer
Metal = Autumn
Water = Winter

Take the Chinese approach, for example. When we think spring is starting here, their calendar puts us right in the middle of it. Each season lasts 72 days, and there are five of them. Plus, there’s an 18-day transitional period between each one that falls under the earth element.

It’s the same deal with food—everything we eat is categorized into one of these five elements. It goes all the way down to organs, and even a human life can be broken down into these five parts.

Anyway, that's enough. I don't feel like typing more.
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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#13 ·
dustybison15 says:

Amy Fox97 said:Wait, what are the five elements? I'm totally lost.

Besides everything else, those five elements represent the five seasons.

Wood = Spring
Fire = Summer
Earth = Late Summer
Metal = Autumn
Water = Winter

With the Chinese, for example, our start of spring is actually their mid-season. Each season lasts 72 days, and there are five of them. Plus, there’s a transitional period of 18 days between each one that falls under the Earth element.

It's the same for all living foods—they're categorized by one of the five elements. It goes all the way down to organs, and even human life
can be divided into these five elements.

Anyway, that's enough. I don't feel like typing more.

Exactly! I met a doctor here in the States who talked about all of this. 👍 And so much more.
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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PRESENTATION BY DR. BABAN ELEKTRO
October 7–9, 2004

For 15 years now, Dr. Baban Elektro hasn't relied on standard drugs or antibiotics. They conducted tests in Greece involving 10 diabetic patients, 10 cardiovascular cases, 10 oncology cases, 10 gynecological cases, prostate issues, and a placebo group. Those using Jessica Wood6 products and acupuncture saw real improvement and healing, while those sticking strictly to conventional therapy actually saw their conditions worsen.

Energy—TAO—is cosmic energy. It generates two forces: YANG and YIN. These two create the holy trinity, which in turn creates the five elements that make up everything around us. YANG is the intangible energy—the right side, the exterior, the masculine. YIN is the energy with form that generates new energetic shapes—the left side, the interior, the feminine. Everything possesses energy; every organ has its own yang and yin. Every soul has an organ where it resides and holds its emotions. Energy moves in a cycle, constantly in motion. Without movement, there is nothing; death follows. Movement is life, and balance is essential in everything.

The symbol brings peace and harmony.
And the Law - Yang - Yin
The II Law – The 5 elements: wood = Spring fire = summer earth, metal = autumn water = winter

WOOD: liver, gallbladder
FIRE: triple warmer, pericardium, small intestine, heart – the mother of the soul (psyche)
EARTH: spleen, pancreas, stomach
METAL: lungs, large intestine
WATER: kidney - the mother, bladder

Every organ has yang and yin. Illness starts in the mental (psychic) realm before manifesting physically. Jessica Wood6 supplements work at the psychic level, treating psychosomatic illnesses by acting directly on acupuncture points. We need to stay in step with nature. Whatever we possess exists in nature; everything is written in the universe. We can raise our chakra energy and see things others cannot.
The liver carries the emotion of anger. We can change so much once we identify the cause. When anger forms a "metallic ring" around a person, they get stuck in life. 2004 is the year of the Wood Monkey, a time when we should cleanse our livers, forgive everyone, and let go of the egoism that blinds us. When we forgive and love, those rings break and doors open. When a person passes away, ¼ of the soul leaves on the 9th day, and another ¼ leaves on the 40th day. Two souls—the liver and the heart—ascend, while the rest return to the earth. If the soul is hurting, the liver is sick. We should cross out anger and insults; don't take offense, because doing so harms both ourselves and others.

Liver support includes: cellulose, chitosan, tea, slim, weight loss pills, powders, and digest. Eat what the liver loves: low fat, less eggs, less
animal fat, and nothing fried. Opt for boiled, roasted, or steamed foods. Eat fruits and vegetables—three different types daily. Stick to greens if the liver is healthy; if it isn't, imbalance occurs. Steaming is best because it avoids
bloating. Anything that causes bloating affects the liver and the head (like beans or peas), which can trigger headaches or blood pressure issues. Once the liver is cleansed, you can eat anything. The liver is our most vital immune system component. The immune system senses wind, heat, and humidity. A pH of 7.35 provides health and prevents disease and cancer. When lymphocyte levels drop, microbes enter the body, circulate around cells, and kill them. Problems with ligaments, metabolism, and the immune system are precursors to oncological diseases.
The liver is the energy driver of the organism.

LIVER:
- ikan (use caution due to blood pressure), chitosan, cordyceps
- For hepatitis A, B, or C: up to 13 cordyceps daily
- Ant/tonic preparation – balances the kidneys
- Our longevity depends on us; all hereditary energy resides in the kidneys. The kidney is designed to let us live 300 years. We waste too much energy before age 28 for women (who favor yang) and until age 32 for men. This is the period of maturation and building families; this is when goals are achieved.
- Blood regenerates every 8 years in men and every 7 years in women.
- If the heart and soul participate in sexual energy, energy is not depleted. The female cycle lasts 30 days: 15 days of estrogen and 15 days of progesterone. Women without this cycle struggle to conceive. The male cycle spans 72 to 90 days.
- Pressure regulation device/comb – it automatically locates key points on the body. It helps memory, relieves stress, boosts circulation, and supports brain health. It’s also good for PCOS, restoring pigment to gray hair, balancing the pituitary gland, neutralizing negative magnetic fields, and soothing bloating. Use circular motions to balance your aura and magnetic field.
- Belt – worn on the spine to automatically balance energy. Place it starting from the navel up to the waist area. For weight loss, alternate the magnet placement daily—one day forward, the next day backward.

People with large, pink lips usually have great energy flow through the spleen. When we treat the nose, we are treating the lungs.
Treating the ear means treating the kidneys.
Treating the eyes means treating the liver.

Clean your tongue with a spoon every single morning.
- Use the spoon to thoroughly clean the tongue: left side, right side, and center.
a) Swish one tablespoon of olive oil in your mouth for 10–15 minutes. Spit the contents into a bag.
b) Mix anti-lipid tea with apple cider vinegar and gargle for 10–15 minutes. Spit the contents into a bag.
c) Mix anti-lipid tea with salt, sniff it, and then spit it out into your mouth.
In all three methods, always spit the contents into a bag—never down the toilet or the drain. Just toss the bag in the trash.
Using Jessica Wood6 products helps us stay positive.

- Every organ has both a physical and a mental sphere; every soul has its own home and emotion.

1. LIVER – HUN
2. HEART – SHEN
3. SPLEEN – JI-YI
4. LUNGS – PO
5. KIDNEYS – ZHI

- Liver – anger and resentment.
- Heart – connects all souls through love and emotions.
- Spleen – emotions, intrusive thoughts, and obsession (you need to trust and set goals).
- Lungs – melancholy.
- Kidneys – fear; this impacts the liver, the soul, and the heart.
- Men – when they receive heavenly energy through love, they gain triple energy, opening all doors to success.
- Constant "I" statements build walls that eventually crumble on us. We need to know how to say
"I'm sorry" and "I love you." Egoism causes illness and damages our organs, especially the heart (our connection to the mother). We should reach out to those we've hurt and say, "Forgive me, I couldn't give you what you needed." The more we give to others, the more we receive; everything opens up for us.

Every organ possesses its own soul and specific emotional traits:

LIVER – HUN, the general.
a) Eyes.
b) Generosity (aim for moderation; don't overdo it).
- All good souls arrive with a purpose.
- The face reflects the heart; if ego gets involved, everything is lost and illness follows. God is with us, helping us learn lessons. If we fail to learn, the soul departs. God grants glory when we serve selflessly without seeking material gain; respect others.
- For liver types, God provides; they should give moderately to receive more. If they refuse to give, God may take it away and give it to someone else.
c) Courage.
- The soul and heart are paramount. The kidneys are the mother of the physical body, containing both Yin and Yang. Energy must be conserved; the kidneys often sacrifice themselves for other organs.
- Yoga and Tai Chi are excellent for conserving, gathering, and renewing energy.
- There is no such thing as "I can't," only "I don't want to." People who constantly say they can't will find they truly can't do anything.
d) They set goals easily, but to achieve them, you need a solid idea and a strong gallbladder to execute it.
- The liver sets the goal, the gallbladder executes, and if the spleen is healthy, progress is rapid. Those lacking gallbladder strength struggle to reach their targets.
- Don't blame others for our mistakes. Never blame parents; that creates massive negative energy.
- We should manage our organs, not our children. If we haven't provided love, we shouldn't expect it. An imbalance between organs shows up in our relationships with our kids.
e) Good balance (they might get offended quickly, but they move on just as fast).
- Liver types should let go of offenses quickly, otherwise, their liver suffers more than others.
f) Strong and resilient individuals.
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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HEART – SHEN
- people with a vibrant heart radiate joy and love
a) thought
b) awareness
c) mind
d) intellect
e) memory
( all heart energy flows toward the head; brain functions relate directly to the organs—specifically the gallbladder and bladder )
- the mind and intellect originate in the heart; everything operates via Chinese meridians
f) thoughts
( drinking coffee = a tongue without a heart; thoughts exit the heart like bullets from a machine gun without any mindfulness)
drinking tea = the heart’s word; unsweetened tea represents a bitter heart; tea envelops the heart, leading to quiet, mindful, and intelligent conversation)
- the gallbladder and small intestine allow us to reach our goals; the small intestine filters nutrients—pure nourishment goes to the lungs, while waste moves to the large intestine
- a clean liver, gallbladder, and small intestine ensure the small intestine makes the right decisions, while the liver and gallbladder drive us toward completing our objectives; a clear small intestine results in pure thoughts
- if we maintain a pure heart, every intention leads us to our goal
- when our organs are clear, our souls are clear, and we are whole
- in this year of 2004, we need to find unity; first by uniting with ourselves, then with our partners. Through this unity, we achieve "oneness" and transcend earthly attachments

EARTH – SPLEEN – JI-YI
- spleen, pancreas, stomach
a) birth
b) ideas
- the spleen governs meditation; it transforms one form of energy into another, which is essential for meditation—converting lower energy into higher states; it is responsible for birth, new ideas, and transformation
- the soul's PO exits through the rectum
- every issue with cordyceps eventually manifests outwardly
- those with thyroid issues may find success through yoga and meditation

METAL – LUNGS – PO
- lungs, large intestine
- emotions and melancholy reside here; the lungs are the greatest yin organ (the "second mother")
- until age 28, women are often dominated by yang energy and may commit various transgressions; once their energy balances, they reflect, asking, "Did I really do that?" Children born at this age tend to be balanced. For men, this balance occurs around age 32, often reflected in their children. Ages 28 for women and 32 for men are critical periods where one should avoid overextending their energy
- thinking correctly matters—to think poorly is a sin
- the lungs are responsible for:
- the lungs act as the administrator
- cordyceps also manages and supports pulmonary processes
a) achieving set goals
b) the capacity for survival
- cordyceps lives underground for two years as a larva, a parasite existing without light, movement, oxygen, or food (in Chinese philosophy, stillness is death and movement is life); afterward, the cordyceps mycelium emerges, which is then hunted by a caterpillar, before returning to the earth; cordyceps is the alpha and omega in treating all ailments; in oncology, one might take 12-13 capsules daily
- all yin individuals must experience yang; sons must leave their mothers to live independently
c) endurance
- 5,000 years ago in Tibet, people took cordyceps and ikan daily; they remained healthy and lived long lives. In 457 AD, Hippocrates gathered herbs, knowing that plants and certain limits fall under zodiac signs
d) growth and development
( lungs are inherited from the mother, the liver from the father)
- teach children how to breathe from a young age; they will remember more, learn better, and develop their intellect. A pure heart facilitates better memory (atomism)
- slipping balances the psyche
e) breathing (asthma)
- learn to breathe properly; yin individuals need yang, and vice versa

KIDNEYS – ZHI
- kidneys, bladder; the kidney is the physical mother
- soul characteristics include memory, meticulousness, and willpower. When the kidneys are compromised, a person loses their willpower and becomes consumed by fear
a) the soul – zhi
b) memory—using sjubao and combs—points find themselves
c) willpower
d) wisdom
- urinary issues: utilize cordyceps (since the lungs regulate the kidneys and manage water retention)
- increase the dose by 2 capsules every 3 days; on the 14th day, take 9 capsules; every 3 days, decrease the cordyceps amount and extend the duration to 5-14 days; after that, taper down to 3 days until urination stabilizes
- bones and all related ailments depend on the kidneys; use Calcium, zinc, eel oil, and ants
- Sterility, cysts, and PCOS? Look at the kidneys first.
- The kidney is actually an endocrine organ.
- Thyroid issues can be a red flag for osteoporosis.
- Feeling cold all the time? That could signal calcium deficiency or bone density loss.
- Take Biocalcium from Tianshi: because CA+ carries a positive charge while our gut is negative, absorption hits a massive 95-98% without any buildup.
- Most synthetic calcium isn't recognized by the digestive tract, so you only absorb about 30-55%—the rest just turns into kidney stones.

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