A Happy Child - Igor Mirkovic's Film

I just finished watching a movie and hopped straight in the car to head home. While digging through my old vinyl collection and CDs, I stumbled upon a chaotic mix of The Beatles, The Beach Boys, and some classic rock legends. I think my neighbors might have actually had a nervous breakdown from the noise. Thanks, Igor, for reminding me of all that great old music that’s been gathering dust in my storage bins for years.

Kevin Chavez3 said:I’ve still got the live from Los Angeles, the first studio album, and "Twilight Zone"... and, well, any one of those three has more good tracks than "Sun Shines." But if you look at it this way—if "My Home," "I Remember Our First Kiss," and "Heart on the Road" are each worth about four great songs—then "Sun Shines!" ends up having 12 great tracks and 7 really good ones. 😁

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can't believe anyone is still listening to "I Remember Our First Kiss" 😁 😂 or "Heart on the Road, my heart stayed there"... I only sing that stuff when I'm messing around 😁 😁 why'd you say that, wrong... you didn't actually listen to that much when they played it on the radio, did you?
but hey, they were just two-month pop hits anyway...

Not everyone can be cool enough to pull off acid jazz. 😳

like John Zorn - Reanimator

Honestly, that had nothing to do with the New Wave era—it was just standard pop music. Nothing more, nothing less. That whole movement probably wrapped up around '85, and then, like every other wave, it just lost its edge. I don't really get why you're bringing those things up in this context... 😕

It’s not a new wave, but it holds up. So what...

Jimmy, aren't you going to tease us just a little bit?
I have a feeling your musical taste is absolutely top-tier, but come on, don't leave us hanging.
You're basically our idol. Go ahead, give us something.

ruggedmarlin15

hollowseal33 said:So, I finally watched the movie. (Though, if I have any kind of eye for faces, was Antonio Banderas actually in it?)

It played Thursday and Friday.

hollowseal33 said:I knew the structure felt a bit off... personally, I don't mind the New Wave era of music and theater, but as people, they just don't do it for me (for example, Dirty Theater played at a GOP pre-election rally, and they and Stublica are basically the only ones using this movie as a promo tool—since they're among the rare few still making money from music, like with Electric Orgasm, for instance). I'm not a fan, nor do I think the movie should have centered so heavily on them; half the film is just their tracks playing, or them talking, so it revolves around them constantly. To be honest, the US had plenty of higher-quality New Wave bands that barely get a mention here. In the movie, they come across like street kids—free, independent, and wild—making you want to be them, when in reality, they aren't like that anymore. But like I said, this isn't an objective history of the New Wave; it's just a movie about Mirkovic's idols.

As for Stublica... they were out in Utrecht, and when they got back and made calls, they were told he'd been away for a week (even though he definitely wasn't), so all we see of Stublica is old footage from 20 years ago.

If we’re talking about the band Film, we’re talking about a group that broke up around '84/'85. As a unit, they were a massive phenomenon and one of our best. Later on, the whole crew moved on from Stublica. What we're seeing now isn't really Film, it's "Jura Stublic & Film"—basically Jura Stublic and a bunch of kids...
Udo, Max, and Piko, who later formed "Le Cinema," contributed heavily to the music and arrangements in Film, which you can definitely hear in Stublica's later tracks, which are a step down. Besides, I don't recall those three ever playing at a political rally. 😕

ruggedmarlin15 said:Jimmy, why don't you chill out a bit?
I'm pretty sure your taste in music is top-tier, but give us a break.
You're our hero. Now just go.

ruggedmarlin15

ruggedmarlin15 I have no idea who didn't get enough...😁
aaa... ever heard of using singular pronouns? 👋

The New Wave scene actually had its moment on TV back in the day—we used to get these dedicated Sunday afternoon specials, stuff like "Rock and Roller." That all changed the second Rundek went too far with his antics and flashed the camera middle finger. Suddenly, they weren't booking any New Wave bands anymore; they switched to playing Shemsa Suljakovic (or whatever that pop singer was called at the time). Needless to say, "Rock and Roller" went straight to hell.

BOA.

Look, I’ve been thinking about this. Americans have tried to produce TV series about the history of rock 'n' roll multiple times, and it’s always the same story. But one thing is absolutely certain: no one has yet managed to film a movie or a series that captures the entire history of rock 'n' roll in a truly objective way. Even here in the States, we’ve seen various attempts to tackle this subject. You have Janjatovic who put together an encyclopedia of the entire regional rock scene, then Lukovic had that interesting book back in the day that leaned more toward the pop scene—what people used to call the "easy listening" stuff—and then there's Outsider (which, if you ask me, is a fantastic film), plus now we have this documentary. I follow all of it with genuine interest! I’m sure this latest documentary will be fascinating to watch, but it's clearly impossible to create a truly comprehensive document about that era—which, if you think about it, is actually a testament to how rich and multifaceted our rock scene really was. We often get into debates about its quality, arguing whether we were second in Europe, third in the world, or maybe even seventh—but honestly, I won't weigh in on that right now; at the end of the day, it isn't a competition. Whether we like it or not, all of us who grew up in this subculture are products of that scene, so it’s only natural that everyone has their own specific vision of how it should be filmed and presented.

To give you a better idea of my perspective, here is a note from my wife. She’s currently staying with my parents in El Paso, while I’m out here in Portugal, and she wrote to me: "Hey, I was watching Smogovac yesterday, seeing them head off to some concert by a classic rock band. It’s much clearer to me now why you turned out the way you did."

Douglas Robinson12, give my best to Sarah👋

I watched Happy Child yesterday. I found it quite enjoyable, I suppose. It seems Igor Mirkovic is certainly the right person for this sort of thing; he produced a warm, informative, and engaging little Film that doesn't pretend to be some official video biography of the New Wave era. Though, I guess it isn't all that far from serving that purpose. I felt a bit disappointed that he didn't mention Paraf and Termite, at least formally—given the lack of original footage—as that might have truly completed the narrative. Still, even as it stands, it's a pleasant watch.

If you get the chance, track down the book "Happy Child." It’s excellent—way more objective than the Film and packed with all those gritty details the movie missed.

dustyridge12 said:Whether I want to admit it or not, all of us posting here are basically products of that whole era, so it’s totally natural that we all have our own specific vision of how things should be filmed and presented.

Preach!

Instead of me trying to make a point, I'll just give you a quote from my wife. She’s currently staying with my folks over in El Paso while I’m out here in Portugal, and she told me: "Hey, I was watching Smogovac yesterday, and they were heading to some concert by an old-school American rock band. Now it finally clicks why you turned out the way you did."

🙂 🙂 🙂

banderas said:When you talk about the band Film, you're talking about a group that broke up back in '84/'85. They were a massive, positive force and honestly one of our best bands. Eventually, the whole crew moved on from Jura Stublic. What we’re seeing now isn't really Film—it's "Jura Stublic & Film," which is basically just Jura Stublic and a bunch of kids...
Udo, Max, and Piko—the guys who later formed "Le Cinema"—made huge contributions to the music and arrangements in Film. You could really hear their influence in those later Stublicev tracks, which frankly weren't nearly as good. Plus, I don't recall those three ever playing at any political rallies. 😕

I have no clue. Film never really blew me away—not saying they weren't good, but there were better. That's why I think they got way too much screen time in the movie. I never said they played at pre-election rallies either. 😉
But like I said, I still think Film is a good band.

hollowseal33 said:But like I already said, I think the Film is good.

THEN WHY ARE YOU BITCHING IF IT'S GOOD?! 😠

🤣 so fan i can't believe 🤣

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Kevin Chavez3 said:So what's the deal then? If they're actually good, why are you still whining about them? 😠

👍 😁

Kevin Chavez3 said:No big deal, just Painkiller - Snake Eyes.

Offtopic - I've been scouring every single search engine out there for three days straight with zero luck. Seriously, if you stumble upon something absolutely genius from now on, please... just keep it to yourself. 🙄 Thanks.

😁

What do you mean, unsuccessful? I managed to snag two and a half albums from Soulseek in just three days, and I’ll have the third one wrapped up tonight. "Guts of a Virgin" (ha!), "Buried Secrets," and "Rituals - Live in Japan" are all pure grindcore... after that, they probably dive into some kind of dub...

So... does anyone happen to have a first pressing of Electric Orgasm sitting around? Or maybe you know where I can pick one up in New York City? The one I grabbed back in NYC still works, though only if you hit the sweet spot in the middle. It’s all glowy because it spent way too much time sitting out in the sun near the porch...
it's a rare masterpiece, honestly...🙏 essential for understanding how that whole flirting thing works...

And what does this have to do with the thread? Well, the new wave scene... those guys were recording in NYC back in the 80s😉 not sure if they even mentioned it in the documentary

Check out the latest album from Electric Orgasm at http://www.elektricniorgazam.com/. I was listening to it earlier this morning—just sitting there with my coffee—and it really struck a chord with me.