Homeopathy at Mayo Clinic

placidjackal97 said:Herbal remedies and homeopathy aren't the same thing. Homeopathy uses highly diluted preparations (which might originate from a plant or something else), so there isn't actually any active ingredient left. The "active" part is just water that has "remembered" the substance that was once dissolved in it (we already covered the specifics over on Science, so I won't repeat myself).

What? Honestly, my deepest apologies for not keeping up with your incredibly vital discussions over on Science. I clearly missed out on all those groundbreaking conclusions you all reached...😁 Truly missed the boat on such important info...🙂 Water "remembering" atomic crystal lattices... right...😁 Good grief... homeopathic remedies work based on the actual plant matter within them. That’s basic stuff taught in med school... maybe not yours... but plenty of others... Ms. "We talked about this on Science"...

placidjackal97 said:I'm with you, Luce. The base is just plant or mineral extracts... highly diluted.

Homeopathy works even on people who don't even know they're taking it. If there's research backing it, how else do you explain that?

Look, I'll say it again: homeopathy doesn't need your belief to function.

I used to be a massive skeptic—typical of me with anything untested—but it helped me through some pretty serious stuff. My dermatologist tried to put me on a month-long course of antibiotics that would've wiped out my entire gut microbiome...🙄

Ignoring the alternatives is basically just being brainwashed by big pharma into thinking their tech is the only solution.🙄

At the end of the day, everyone makes their own choices. I'll take conventional medicine IF nothing else works, but I refuse to pop pills for every little ache and pain. I won't do that to myself.

Finally, someone speaking from experience rather than just prejudice. You guys are hard to find...😉
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illegale said:Homeopathy is basically just a way for people who think they’re too smart to visit a psychic, yet are somehow too dim to grasp how this kind of treatment actually works.

Maybe "too dim" is putting it harsh, but hey, ignorance is bliss, right?

Honestly, looking at this science thread, it feels like you aren't even reading for comprehension—you're just circling back to your own biases. But hey, you work in politics, so I guess that's just part of the job description.😁
Give it another read. Maybe this time it'll actually click.😉

You can easily test the effects of homeopathy on animals and plants, where it shows incredibly positive results. So, calling it a placebo is out of the question.🙂 There are times when even a placebo would be more effective than standard allopathic drugs or those "Big Pharma" giants.🤣

Could one of our local geniuses explain what’s actually funny about my post?

Or is it just that homeopathy, religion, and all that nonsense are somehow considered unscientific?

Luke said:Herbal supplements and homeopathy aren't the same thing. Homeopathy uses extremely diluted preparations (which might actually come from a plant or something else), so there isn't really any active ingredient left. The "active" part is just water that has "memorized" whatever substance was dissolved in it once (we've already gone over the specifics of that on the science forum, so I won't repeat myself).

Jimmy said:Wait, what?! Man, I’m seriously bummed I don't follow your deep dives on the science boards more closely. I missed out on all those important discussions and whatever conclusions you guys reached...😁 I clearly missed some big stuff here...🙂 So the water "memorized" the crystal lattice of atoms, huh? Yeah, right...😁 Good grief... saying homeopathy works based on the plant matter inside itself? That's actual medical school curriculum... maybe not at your school... but certainly at most others. And ma'am, "we talked about this on the science board"...

Luke is right.

http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?s...a&pagenumber=3

AxMi-24 said:Can one of you local geniuses please explain what’s so funny about my post??

Is it because homeopathy, God, and all that crap are considered "unscientific"???

Look, I’m no genius, but let me try to break this down for you: you can’t really have a meaningful debate when you're talking past someone in a different language. If you don't actually have experience with a topic and don't know the facts, there's nothing to talk about. This isn't some academic journal where people defend formal theses; this is a Health forum where people come to share their own personal experiences and advice. And from what I can tell, you don't have any actual experiences to share. It would be like trying to convince people who actually live in the USA that the whole country is just a massive conspiracy theory. 😁
Some people are laughing because they don't know how to politely say your opinion is totally baseless, and others are just trolling to boost their post count. Nothing personal. 😉
God is definitely above science, homeopathy is somewhere in the middle, but total nonsense is perfectly consistent with science. 😁

To me, homeopathy is magic, not science. So, laugh all you want. 😁

Wild Card said:Look, to me, homeopathy is straight-up magic, not actual science. So go ahead and laugh if you want... 😁

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Oleander Somniferum said:If I want to get a laugh out of this and maybe hit my 50-post milestone a little faster...🙂 😂 😂
What an absolute load of nonsense! 😂

It’s funny how much it stings when the truth starts poking at your precious little convictions, isn't it?😛 😉

P.S. I'm just stirring the pot and looking for a reaction.😳 😁

Bradley Fisher20 said:Homeopathy is essentially just a way for people who think they’re far too sophisticated to fall for some backwoods witch doctor, yet lack the basic intellect to grasp the actual logic behind this kind of treatment.

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Wild Card said:If you ask me, homeopathy is pure magic, not actual science. So go ahead and laugh if you want.😁

It's just hard to admit the truth sometimes.😁

Wild Card said:Luke is right on this one.

http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?s...a&pagenumber=3

What kind of link is that? As far as I can tell, substances in solution actually work...🙂

shadowgardener12, I’m not quite following you 😕, what exactly do you mean by "solution"?

Maybe Alexander Parker69 could share some of his own experiences with homeopathy instead of tracking my every move and trying to trip me up 😛

sanja74 said:A friend talked me into visiting them last week, and now I'm wondering if anyone here has dealt with homeopaths—specifically when it comes to fertility stuff.

Never tried it. Personally, my fertility hasn't been an issue. 🙂
But hey, homeopathy seems like a decent enough concept to me. 🙂

Wild Card said:Maybe Alexander Parker69 should try sharing his own experiences with homeopathy instead of just following my every move and trying to trip me up. 😛

😉

It’s becoming a habit 😳 😁

Wild Card said:I’m no local genius, but let me try to explain that you can't really have an informed debate with someone who doesn't speak the language. If you lack experience and zero knowledge on a topic, what is there to talk about? This isn't a formal Science forum where theses are defended; this is Health, where people share their own experiences and advice. And from what I can tell, you don't have any such experiences. It would be like trying to convince people who have actually been to the USA that the whole country is just a Masonic conspiracy. 😁
Some people are laughing because they don't know how to say your opinion is baseless, while others are just here to farm engagement. Nothing personal. 😉
God is certainly above science, homeopathy is somewhat so, but total nonsense is perfectly in line with science. 😁

To me, homeopathy is magic, not science. So go ahead and laugh. 😁

I just thought it would be decent to include something scientifically proven. But if that bothers you, feel free to stick to your voodoo approach.

Well, she finally admitted it’s all just smoke and mirrors—complete abracadabra. Everything is perfectly clear now. 🙂 😛

slycrane94 said:I just felt like it was only fair to bring some actual scientific data to the table. But hey, if you guys prefer sticking to voodoo, be my guest.

Look, your intentions are totally fine 🙂, but we've already covered the science behind homeopathy over on ScienceHub, and honestly, the whole debate just turned into a bunch of people bickering. If anyone wants to dive into the data, the link is right there. People come to this Health forum specifically to share their personal experiences with homeopathy—that's really all there is to it. If someone's itching for a debate about proving or debunking evidence, they should probably head back over to the Science section.

First, do no harm. Most conventional drugs end up causing more side effects than they're worth and rarely live up to the hype. On the flip side, homeopathy isn't going to hurt anyone. Sure, the process can take longer, finding the exact right remedy is a bit of a puzzle, and it’s not a silver bullet for everything, but it works. We shouldn't just toss out a valid way of healing because it doesn't fit a certain mold.

Good grief, you’ve gone completely feral on us... What on earth happened to you? This certainly wasn't the usual fluff you peddle 😲 It actually had some substance to it—it was gritty, it was real—so, what gives? Are you feeling alright? 😁 😛

Seriously though, pull yourself together. I don't know how much longer I can deal with this if you just decide to stop being anything other than a total lightweight around here. 😁

jimmy said:Wait, what? Honestly, I feel pretty bad now that I haven't been keeping up with your incredibly "important" scientific debates. I have no idea what you guys were even talking about or what conclusions you supposedly reached...😁 I really missed out on all the big breakthroughs, apparently...🙂 So, she "memorized the crystal lattice of atoms," did she? Yeah, right...😁 Oh my God... homeopathic remedies work based on the plant matter inside them? That’s actually taught in medical school... maybe not yours... but definitely in plenty of others. And here we are, listening to "we discussed this in science"...

Look, Sorbonne University is top-tier, and in France, people actually buy homeopathic remedies at pharmacies, and they're even partially covered by insurance. However, they've cut back on those reimbursements this year because the lack of efficacy has been proven. That is the official stance of the healthcare system there.
As for the actual active ingredients and all that technical stuff, I’m pointing you back to that science discussion again. A lot of people over there—for example, smart folks like Smrkoci—actually cited research papers.
Did you even bother reading that thread? I highly doubt it.

Wild Card said:darkbison81 makes a fair point here.

http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?s...a&pagenumber=3

Thanks 🙂
(for taking the time to read this)