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Participants Peter Morris58Jamie Sanchez48lonescout2Richard Hernandez13fadedsailor932swiftviper6Daniel Martin72Henry Barrett11Robert Murphy492Jose Miller17driftingnomad68frozentiger6Gary SanchezRyan Sanchez55Robert Cooper41Melissa Moore32lonemarlin40swiftmaker20gentlefox14
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
211 messages
joined Apr 2007
#21 ·
Has anyone actually sat down and watched that Bambi? You know exactly what kind of vibe it gives off 😉
Gary Sanchez Gary Sanchez Active Member
59 messages
joined Dec 2004
#22 ·
It’s definitely an ice age out there!
I don't get it, how on earth are those monsters everyone's obsessed with?
Personally, I can't stand that cartoon at all.
But Ice Age 👍 👍
Gary Sanchez Gary Sanchez Active Member
59 messages
joined Dec 2004
#23 ·
Alright, I haven't seen The Emperor's New Groove yet.
What's it like?
lonescout2 lonescout2 Active Member
57 messages
joined Dec 2002
#24 ·
I find 👍
to be absolutely excellent.
Jose Miller17 Jose Miller17 Active Member
162 messages
joined Sep 2003
#25 ·
I’m down for everything except ENG... personally, I think Ice Age is way below Shrek, especially since you seem to be such a huge Shrek fan.😁
Peter Morris58 Peter Morris58 MemberOP
32 messages
joined Mar 2003
#26 ·
Look, ENG is hands down the best out there. Go jump on the video and watch it right now. That's an order! 😉
Ryan Sanchez55 Ryan Sanchez55 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Sep 2003
#27 ·
I find myself watching a few animated films every single day—mostly because I have a little three-year-old running around... and honestly, they’re all pretty great. He’s obsessed with monsters, among other things, much like his old man😁. Right now, he’s glued to Fantasia. That particular film really does have some incredibly stunning moments
Jose Miller17 Jose Miller17 Active Member
162 messages
joined Sep 2003
#28 ·
Peter Morris58 said:Look, ENG is easily the heavyweight in this group. 😉

And you know what happens if they don't🙂 😉
Robert Cooper41 Robert Cooper41 Member
47 messages
joined Dec 2002
#29 ·
Disney Inc. stands as one of those massive "big six" media conglomerates—you know the type, like Time Warner, News Corp, Vivendi, Viacom, Sony, or even Disney + Bertelsmann acting as an international powerhouse—that basically hold the entire media landscape of the USA and the rest of the world in their hands. Can you even wrap your head around that level of control? I mean, look at what Disney actually owns:

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Book Publishing Imprints

Walt Disney Company Book Publishing
Hyperion
Miramax
Magazine Subsidiary Groups

ABC Publishing Group
Disney Publishing, Inc.
Diversified Publications Group
Financial Services and Medical Group
Miller Publishing
Magazine titles include:

Automotive Industries
Biography (alongside GE and Hearst)
Discover
Disney Adventures
Disney Magazine
ECN News
ESPN Magazine (distributed by Hearst)
Family Fun
Institutional Investor
Jane
JCK
Kentucky Prairie
Farmer Kodin
Top Famille
US Weekly (50%)
Video Business
Quality

Disney - Broadcasting
(this includes the Capital City/ABC subsidiary)
Television

ABC Television Network
Owned and Operated Television Stations

WLS - Chicago
WJRT - Flint
KFSN - Fresno
KTRK - Houston
KABC - Los Angeles
WABC - New York City
WPVI - Philadelphia
WTVD - Raleigh - Durham
KGO - San Francisco
WTVG - Toledo
Radio Stations

WKHX – Atlanta Radio Disney
ESPN Radio (syndicated programming)
Cable Television

ABC Family
Disney Channel
Disney Channel
SoapNet
ESPN Inc. (80% - Hearst Corporation holds the other 20%) which covers ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN News, ESPN Now, and ESPN Extreme
Classic Sports Network
A&E Television (37.5%, shared with Hearst and GE)
History Channel (with Hearst and GE)
Lifetime
Lifetime Movie Network (50% with Hearst)
E! Entertainment (shared with Comcast)
International Broadcast

Disney Channel UK
Disney Channel Taiwan
Disney Channel Australia
Disney Channel Malaysia
Disney Channel France
Disney Channel Middle East
Disney Channel Italy
Disney Channel Spain
ESPN INC. International Ventures
Sportsvision of Australia (25%)
ESPN Brazil (50%)
ESPN STAR (50%) - providing sports coverage all over Asia
Asia Net (33%) owners of The Sports Network
Other International Ventures
(all involving minority ownership)

Tele-Munchen - German television production and distribution
RTL-2 - German television production and distribution
Hamster Productions - French television production
TV Sport of France
Tesauro of Spain
Scandinavian Broadcasting System
Japan Sports Channel
Television Production and Distribution

Buena Vista Television
Touchstone Television
Disney Television
Disney Television Animation (which maintains three full production facilities outside the US - specifically in Japan, Australia, and Canada)
Disney - Movie Production and Distribution

Disney Pictures
Touchstone Pictures
Hollywood Pictures
Caravan Pictures
Miramax
Buena Vista Home Video
Buena Vista Home Entertainment
Buena Vista International
Disney - Financial and Retail

Financial

Sid R. Bass (partial interest - involved in crude petroleum and natural gas production)
Retail

The Disney Store
Disney - Multimedia

Walt Disney Internet Group

ABC Internet Group
ABC.com
ABCNEWS.com
Oscar.com
Mr. Showbiz
Disney Online (various websites and content)
Disney's Daily Blast
Disney.Com
Family.Com
ESPN Internet Group
ESPN.sportzone.com
Soccernet.com (60%)
NFL.com
NBA.com
NASCAR.com
Skillgames
Wall of Sound
Go Network
Toysmart.com (majority stake - educational toys)

Disney Interactive (develops/markets computer software, video games, CD-ROMs)

Disney - Music

Buena Vista Music Group
Hollywood Records ( popular music and soundtracks for motion pictures)
Lyric Street Records (Nashville based country music label)
Mammoth Records (popular and alternative music labels)
Walt Disney Records
Disney - Theater and Sports

Theatrical Productions

Walt Disney Theatrical Productions (productions include stage version of The Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, King David)
Professional Sports Franchises

Anaheim Sports, Inc.
Mighty Ducks of Anaheim (National Hockey League)
Theme Parks & Resorts

Disneyland - Anaheim, CA
Disney -MGM Studios
Disneyland Paris
Disney Regional Entertainment (entertainment and theme dining in metro areas)
Disneyland Resort
Disney Vacation Club
Epcot
Magic Kingdom
Tokyo Disneyland (partial ownership)
Walt Disney World - Orlando, FL
Disney's Animal Kingdom
Disney - MGM Studios
Walt Disney World Sports Complex (golf course, auto racing track and baseball complex)
Disney Cruise Line
The Disney Institute

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The Disney animated films we see here—wrapped up in all this imagery of innocence and pure-heartedness—actually serve to mask a massive, sprawling multinational corporation, and frankly, the message being beamed into children's heads through these movies is often deeply problematic! Have you noticed how female characters are frequently reduced to mere caricatures, overly sexualized, or, more predictably, constantly waiting to be rescued by some male lead? And don't even get me started on the representation of African Americans and Asian Americans, who are almost always pigeonholed into a handful of tired racial stereotypes... The whole animation production is essentially just one giant engine designed to peddle toys, video games, and kids' clothing featuring these very same characters. It’s all part of the machine, much like what Michael Eisner, the Disney CEO, once admitted: "To make money is our only objective."

And yet, people just sit there and think the movies are charming. 🙄 😁
Melissa Moore32 Melissa Moore32 Active Member
127 messages
joined Jan 2004
#30 ·
Like someone already pointed out, it's clearly just Disney... so I could only really give my vote to him. 😛

But all three are somewhere in my list... I think Monsters, Inc. is awesome because of the Crystal Goodman duo, IA is charming and actually restored my faith in Americans, but ENG is still somehow the best for me. I mean, they just don't have any other Disney movies with such great dialogue... it's a shame Disney had to ruin everything with nonsense like Atlantida and their worst feature film so far, Planet.

Jamie Sanchez48> I especially don't get how anyone could actually like Shrek with that constant "fart and burp" humor.

Here, here... it really is kind of pathetic.

I mean, the movie is basically at a five-year-old's level, but then they throw in jokes for an older audience, so you honestly don't know what you're supposed to be watching or listening to anymore.

The whole thing is carried by Myres and Murphy; otherwise, it would truly be a disaster.

Jamie Sanchez48> DreamWorks and Warner Bros. aren't doing a good job.

I agree regarding DreamWorks; the only one of theirs I actually love is Antz, the rest isn't really my thing. As for Warner Bros., I wouldn't necessarily agree. Sure, they don't have many feature films, but they make up for it with their short series which are actually great.

BTW, now that I think about it, Space Jam... if you guys don't think that's awesome...😠


Robert Cooper41> Disney animated films hide a massive multinational corporation behind an image of sincerity and innocence, and the image kids get from these movies is often very problematic: female characters are highly simplified, sexualized... and as a rule, they seek rescue from male characters. African American and Asian characters are most often presented through a few stereotypes of these races... and the entire animation production is actually just an industry for selling toys, games, and children's clothing featuring characters from these films.

Dammit Robert Cooper41, you didn't have to spam so much about the Disney company 😛... we know they have money coming out of their ears and they couldn't care less whether their cartoons are actually any good or not. 😠

Anyway, what was said above is absolutely true. The characters in Disney cartoons are currently their weakest link. It wasn't always like this... but man, ever since LK, all Disney movies seem to be getting worse and worse (ENG being the exception, obviously).

Right now, the only two good things about Disney cartoons are the animation and the production value, but when you consider that their production boils down to selling "merchandise" and the animation serves no purpose other than looking pretty—maybe until some cartoon hits rock bottom and they finally snap. (God willing)


Robert Cooper41> Or as Michael Eisner (Disney CEO) said:"To make money is our only objective."

hehe....all that's missing here is "Resistance is futile"
Peter Morris58 Peter Morris58 MemberOP
32 messages
joined Mar 2003
#31 ·
Like someone already pointed out, it's obviously just ENG Disney....so he was the only one I could vote for.

Hehe, I did that on purpose (or so you can think), just so you guys had no choice but to vote for that movie, which is definitely the best one out there.

And once more:

"Who is sitting in my chair?" And then that fat Yzmin jerk says: "I know, I know, Yzma is, Yzma is sitting in your chair!"

Anyway, heading to the video store today to grab that movie and watch it again. It’s seriously great 👍
Melissa Moore32 Melissa Moore32 Active Member
127 messages
joined Jan 2004
#32 ·
Peter Morris58 said:Hehe, yeah, I did that on purpose (if you can even call it that), just so you guys wouldn't have any other choice but to vote for this cartoon. It’s definitely the best one out there.

And again:

"Who is sitting in my chair?" And then that fat Yzma jerk goes: "I know, I know, Yzma is, Yzma is sitting in your chair!"

So, I'm actually heading to the video store today to grab it and watch it again. It really is such a great flick. 👍

Personally, I think the strongest line is "Right, the poison. For Kuzco. Kuzco's poison."

By the way, the guy who voiced that character is the same actor who plays David Putty on Seinfeld. (You know, Elaine's boyfriend, the auto mechanic).

Anyway, why are you even bothering with video rental stores? Just get it on DivX. 😉
lonemarlin40 lonemarlin40 Member
41 messages
joined Nov 2006
#33 ·
Melissa Moore32 said:I still think the best line is "Right, the poison. For Kuzco. Kuzco's poison."

By the way, the guy who voiced that character is actually the same actor who plays David Putty on Seinfeld. (You know, Elaine's boyfriend, the mechanic).

Did they even model the animation after him? Because he looks just like him. 😁

Anyway, let me weigh in on the animation: I absolutely love all three movies. Ice Age is my favorite, but that’s purely subjective. That said, The Emperor is definitely the smartest one when it comes to the humor. I was dying... Kuzco is pure genius.😁
lonescout2 lonescout2 Active Member
57 messages
joined Dec 2002
#34 ·
Exactly, even Monsters, Inc. belongs to Disney 😉

And honestly, Kronk is at his absolute best when he's hanging out with the Angels 😁
Devil: "Number one: he’s carrying around that dainty little musical string thing,"
Angel: "We have discussed this repeatedly. It is a harp, and you know it!"
D: "Yeah. It's a harp. And that's a dress."
A: "IT'S A ROBE!"
D: "Number two: check out this move!" (Balances on one hand)
Kronk: "What does that have to do with anything?"
A: "Actually, no, he’s making a valid point right there."

Those guys are absolutely powerhouse characters 😁
Peter Morris58 Peter Morris58 MemberOP
32 messages
joined Mar 2003
#35 ·
Melissa Moore32 said:BTW, why are you stressing over Videoteka? Just grab it on DivX. 😉

If I actually had that software on my computer, or even knew where to find that CD or whatever, I’d probably just do it. 😉
Jamie Sanchez48 Jamie Sanchez48 Newcomer
8 messages
joined May 2004
#36 ·
lonescout2 said:Well, even Monsters are owned by Disney...😉

Look, everyone, you have to realize that’s just Disney handling the distribution; the actual work was done by the Pixar team, just like they did with Toy Story, A Bug's Life, and Finding Nemo.
And those critics? They basically hold all the cards. I haven't had a chance to sit down with Nemo yet since I only picked it up today, so we'll see... but frankly, I don't have any doubts about Pixar's quality.

Melissa Moore32 said:I'm with you on DreamWorks; the only one of theirs that really hits the mark for me is Antz, everything else is just mediocre. As for Warner Bros., I wouldn't go that far. Sure, they don't have many feature films, but their short series are actually quite solid. [/B]

Fair enough, maybe I was being a bit too harsh on Warner Bros., but DreamWorks is honestly pretty subpar in my book, and if I'm being completely honest, even Antz feels dull... I mean, please, just compare it to A Bug's Life, which is an absolute masterpiece.

As for Shrek, I won't even bother commenting anymore; it clearly reflects the tastes of both our audience and the American public. If people want to point out how dim Americans are, fine... it seems we're all cut from the same cloth.
Melissa Moore32 Melissa Moore32 Active Member
127 messages
joined Jan 2004
#37 ·
Jamie Sanchez48 said:Look, guys, that's just Disney distribution. The Pixar crew made those, just like they did Toy Story, A Bug's Life, and Finding Nemo.

That’s basically what I was thinking too.

I mean, Disney just buys up the distribution rights under their own label to scoop up all the cream of the crop. They've been doing that for a long time now.

Jamie Sanchez48 said:And I have to admit, Antz was pretty lame and boring. Please, compare it to A Bug's Life—that one is the gold standard!

An ant voiced by Woody Allen doesn't exactly feel like part of an "ant collective," does he? HELLO!!!!! How could you possibly find that boring or lame?

Anyway, I'm with you on Shrek.
Peter Morris58 Peter Morris58 MemberOP
32 messages
joined Mar 2003
#38 ·
Alright, I grabbed the ENG again and I'm headed out to pick up 👋
Melissa Moore32 Melissa Moore32 Active Member
127 messages
joined Jan 2004
#39 ·
Peter Morris58 said:If I actually had that software on my computer, and if I even knew where to find that CD or whatever it is, I’d probably just get it done.😉

Look, what you really need is essentially the Gordian Knot.

With that, you basically get pretty much everything required to make a DivX file.

I mean, you could technically do it without it—say you need something to rip a DVD, like Smart Ripper, then you'd use DVD2Avi to pull the video and audio, obviously you'll need VirtualDub, plus LAME 3.92 to encode the audio into MP3, and... let me think... yeah, that's about it.

Oh, and you absolutely have to have the right codec installed... DivX 3.11, 5.02, or XviD.

That’s more or less the whole list. And honestly, most of that comes bundled together with Gordian.

You should be able to find all of this over at http://www.doom9.org/ if I remember correctly.
Jamie Sanchez48 Jamie Sanchez48 Newcomer
8 messages
joined May 2004
#40 ·
P.S.
I have to wonder... why is it that in almost every single one of Disney's movies, the mother is somehow conveniently out of the picture...

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