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Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets

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Charles Sanchez6 Charles Sanchez6 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
I honestly find it hard to believe that nobody has started a thread about Potter yet! πŸ˜‰

Or maybe it’s already been done and I just somehow missed it 😁

Regardless, I finally sat down and watched it yesterday.

Here are my thoughts: visually speaking, the film is absolutely flawless, but personally, I found the pacing a bit sluggish and perhaps a touch too fantastical. It felt as though they leaned a little too heavily on certain plot resolutions. It reminded me of how Bond always seems to find a way out of every impossible situationβ€”it’s almost too convenient how he’s always untouchable. That said, even with those gripes, the story remains somewhat digestible as a whole. If I were ten years younger, I suspect I would have absolutely loved it. But at my age? I don't know, I think I preferred the first installment much more...

So, what are your thoughts on it??? 😁
ruggedjackal46 ruggedjackal46 Regular
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#2 ·
I honestly can't stand book adaptationsβ€”especially when it comes to HPβ€”and even though I know I’m looking at two and a half hours of pure, unadulterated boredom, I've decided to tag along with my classmates just so I have something to do. I'm just praying we don't end up stuck with terrible seats πŸ™‚
Jack Harris3 Jack Harris3 Regular
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#3 ·
Hehe, Charles Sanchez6, that whole "his name is Potter, Harry Potter" vibe will probably carry on through the entire series... he’ll always seem to be in the right place at just the right moment. 😁 Or maybe something else pulls him into the fray...
Personally, I found the second installment way more fun than the first.
Beyond the visuals being absolutely wild, I actually enjoyed having two villains to root against: Snape and Malfoy senior. Some friends who've already read the book told me both of them will get much more screen time in the third part. And honestly? Jason Isaacs as Lucius Malfoy is spot on. He totally nailed it. 😁

A few friends were raving about Dobby, calling him some kind of massive achievement for CGI... Ugh, please. If they wanted me to think he was actually impressive, he’d have to look a lot less fake. It would've been better if they just hired a little person to play him... 😁
Charles Sanchez6 Charles Sanchez6 NewcomerOP
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#4 ·
Haha, Charles Sanchez6, if we're going by that logic, they'll probably carry that "his name is Potter, Harry Potter" energy all the way to the end: he’ll just happen to be in the right place at exactly the right moment every single time. Or perhaps some other force will just drag him there...

Look, I get it, but when you bundle all those tropes together into one narrative, the whole thing starts to feel rather patheticβ€”transparent, even, and just incredibly predictable...

Aside from the fact that the visuals are absolutely insane, I could have easily spent the whole time just enjoying the two villains: Snape and the elder Malfoy.

Well, for me, a Snape is everything!! If only he were my uncle or a neighbor or something...😁

Jason Isaacs as Lucius Malfoy is such a perfect fit. He completely blew me away.

Not me! πŸ™‚
To me, he isn't particularly special or mind-blowingly good... nothing out of the ordinary... πŸ™‚

Some friends were raving about Dobby as if he were this massive achievement in computer technology... Please. For me to consider him impressive, the animation would need to look significantly less artificial. Honestly, it might have been better if they had just hired a little person to play the part...

Oh, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about!! πŸ™‚
Pesica, don't be like that!! 😁 πŸ˜‰ Everyone else thinks Dobby is wonderful; you're just being difficult because of your own specific tastes...πŸ™„ πŸ˜‰
It's almost as if you're some high-end CGI specialist looking at the frame rate and spotting every tiny imperfection in the animation. πŸ˜› You managed to fully immerse yourself in every other aspect of the film, yet you can't connect with him? Come on now, pull yourself together, please! 😁
Jack Harris3 Jack Harris3 Regular
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#5 ·
Charles Sanchez6 said:Man, I am telling you... Snape is absolutely top-tier. Honestly, if he were my uncle or even just some neighbor down the street, I’d be set...😁

I’m feeling that "something like that" vibe... Honestly, Rickman is just on another level for me... 😁😁😁
Not me!... πŸ™‚
Honestly, I don't find it all that special... or even mind-blowingly good... not really... πŸ™‚

You really think so? Like, it isn't just pure evil? Honestly... I think it's actually pretty cool... πŸ™‚
It’s like you’re some kind of high-end graphics processor or something... if only we could see all those tiny little imperfections in his animation that most people just breeze right over... πŸ˜› You managed to get totally into everything else, but when it comes to him... you just aren't feeling it at all. Come on, pull yourself together, please... 😁

Maybe they couldn't have done it any better, but then again, what I said is just my own take on things... It’s all subjective. To me, a trick only feels truly brilliant when it looks "real"... But Dobby is just so obviously artificial that it's a bit much... πŸ™‚
George Gonzalez25 George Gonzalez25 Newcomer
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#6 ·
In my opinion, Harry Potter is way better than TWO TOWERS...

I've read all the books, and honestly, Prisoner of Azkaban is leagues ahead of Chamber of Secrets, though I'd say Goblet of Fire is right up there with Prisoner of Azkaban...

It’s really only in the third book where we start to see that Harry doesn't necessarily have these god-like superpowers, but he knows how to use the skills he actually has in the best possible way. That being said, Chamber of Secrets is still a solid movieβ€”he can speak Parseltongue, which lets him hear that voice echoing through the halls (it's the voice of a young Riddle, which was actually a bit of magic gifted to Harry subconsciously during Voldemort's attempt on his life). Young Riddle speaks the language of the Basilisk, that ancient creature, to command it to kill. That’s just how it works according to the book. One of the main reasons I think Harry Potter is executed better than Lord of the Rings is simply because Harry Potter follows the source material so much more faithfully than LOTR does...

CANT WAIT FOR ANOTHER BOOK OR MOVIE...
Jonathan Perez88 Jonathan Perez88 Active Member
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#7 ·
When Rowling sold off the film rights, one of her non-negotiable terms was that the books remained untouchedβ€”no changes to the plot and absolutely nothing added to the story.
In my opinion, you can't even put LOTR and HP in the same conversation. Their only real similarities are that they both consist of multiple installments, were released around the same time, and involve fantasy elements. That’s it.
Anyway, I haven't actually sat down to watch the second movie yet, though I plan to. πŸ™‚ Having read the books, I agree that "Prisoner of Azkaban" is the best oneβ€”I'm genuinely looking forward to seeing how they handle it on screen.
Charles Sanchez6 Charles Sanchez6 NewcomerOP
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#8 ·
Jack Harris3 said:I’d go with "something like that." Rickman is just insane.

It isn’t even just about Rickman being great, it’s about Snape himself!!! He’s such a dark, incredibly cool figure... honestly, he’s just legendary...πŸ™ 😁

You think so? Like he isn't pure, unadulterated malice?

I don't know... personally, I don't see it that way. There's something almost artificial about him. I can't quite tell if it's a result of the acting or just the way the character was written, but he feels a bit like a cartoon villainβ€”just perpetually angry and wicked, only to be defeated by everyone at the end while he just stands there going "Damn!" 😁 Regardless, he really resonated with me; you can disagree all you want, but I'm standing my ground on this one! πŸ™‚

And Dobby is so obviously fake that it's painful.

Well, he absolutely IS NOT!! πŸ™‚ 😁
Charles Sanchez6 Charles Sanchez6 NewcomerOP
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Jonathan Perez88 said:I honestly don't think you can even put Lord of the Rings and HP in the same conversation. Aside from the fact that they both feature multiple installments, were released around the same era, and happen to fall under the fantasy umbrella, there really isn't much else connecting them!

I couldn't agree more!

Actually, I haven't gotten around to watching the second one yet.

It is a must watch! πŸ™‚
ruggedjackal46 ruggedjackal46 Regular
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#10 ·
Aside from being visually insane, I could have easily spent the whole movie just watching two villains: Snape and Malfoy senior.

I was actually just about to comment on how boring it was, but then you reminded me, so I clicked reply immediately!
The guy playing Malfoy's dad has such a look, my friend and I couldn't stop staring at him! Honestly, I'm flooredβ€”words fail meβ€”he's just... a presence!

I'm also with you on Dobby being total garbage; you can tell he's just some computer-generated mess, there's zero realism there. It's like trying to convince someone that Roger Rabbit is an actual rabbit, πŸ™„

Otherwise, the movie is a complete joke in terms of how stupid it is. Good grief...
slylynx8 slylynx8 Member
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#11 ·
I actually just watched it about a week ago.
Personally, I thought it was totally awesome... let me explain... whenever I sit down for movies like this, I basically switch into this total kid mode where everything is just suuuuppppeeerrrr fun for me.... plus, I end up jumping and freaking out at every single scary scene.... which honestly makes my partner feel pretty awkward because I'm making noises that definitely aren't age-appropriate.

I also felt like this second installment was better than the first one (Jason Isaacs is just pure evil, and Alan Rickman is a straight-up genius regardlessβ€”not to mention Snape is pretty hot, if you ask meβ€”plus Kenneth Branagh is great, though he doesn't get nearly enough screen time compared to what's in the book). It felt much darker to me than the first movie.

But this guy I know (who hasn't even read the books) keeps insisting that this second part is worse and that the plot drags on forever at the start before rushing through the ending. To be fair, he kind of has a point; if you've actually read the book, following the story is a breeze, but for everyone else, it might be a little harder to keep up.πŸ™‚
Jack Harris3 Jack Harris3 Regular
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#12 ·
I haven't actually read the books, and honestly, they aren't really my thing.
You hit the nail on the head, slylynx8! Some people just don't know how to switch into "adult mode," so everything feels boring to them. (ruggedjackal46, give it a rest!)
The movie is actually great if you're okay with a bit of childish fun. 😁
And finally, someone else who appreciates Rickman. 😁
Ugh, Branagh... what a total hack. 😁 He just didn't fit the part at all.

And Charles Sanchez6 clearly hasn't a clue. He thinks Isaacs is mediocre, yet he calls Dobby a geniusβ€”not only does the character have eyes the size of marbles, but they look so glassy and weird... Ugh. Total amateurs. πŸ™„πŸ™‚
ruggedjackal46 ruggedjackal46 Regular
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#13 ·
Jack Harris3, I could easily see myself getting lost in the world of Harry Potterβ€”I actually read the book, and it’s pretty greatβ€”but man, the movie is just a disaster! How does anyone manage to make such a mediocre film? And don't even get me started on the guy playing Harry; how can he be so unlikable and just plain bad at his job? Then you've got Dobby, who is portrayed as being so incredibly fake. > And why is Malfoy such a joke? Honestly, even Snape isn't much better.
Jack Harris3 Jack Harris3 Regular
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ruggedjackal46 said:How can the guy playing Harry be so unlikable and just... bad?

Gosh, I completely forgot his name... but yeah, he's totally underwhelming to me. 😁
At least Ron and Hermione are great. 😁

And Snape is a total legend. Honestly, the only reason I even sat through the first one was because I'm such a huge fan of Rickman... I watched the second one too, and actually found the second one pretty entertaining. 😁
I mean, whoever doesn't love Dobby? All in all, the movie is perfect for a goofball like me... 😁

I hadn't heard of Jason Isaacs before that, but I immediately downloaded Patriot online right after because my friends told me he's an even bigger jerk in that one, and they weren't lying. The movie itself is trash, but he's definitely worth watching. 😁
ruggedjackal46 ruggedjackal46 Regular
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#15 ·
Ron is the absolute GOAT. I was honestly cracking up watching how terrified he gets the second he spots any kind of spider 😁

And can we talk about how much of a massive role a Snape plays in the book, yet they barely give him anything to do in the movie? It’s ridiculous. A friend and I actually decided to go see the third installment specifically because we heard Snape and Malfoy would have a bigger part in it πŸ‘
Jack Harris3 Jack Harris3 Regular
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ruggedjackal46 said:A buddy and I decided we're definitely checking out the third installment just because Snape and Malfoy are supposed to have much bigger roles this time around... πŸ‘

Yeah, my friends who actually read the book immediately tried to comfort me about it... 😁

I wasn't really planning on buying the DVDs, but since everyone else is, I felt like I had to just to keep up once they drop, so I ended up grabbing the first one already...
Can you believe how annoying it is? They have these extra deleted scenes featuring Snape, but you can only see them if you beat certain video games... For example, you have to know exactly which bricks Hagrid hit with his umbrella to make that wall open up, or those scenes with Snape's potions... ugh, gross. I don't think I'll ever actually see those clips, and the only friend of mine who managed to unlock them completely forgot what the answers were... Looks like I'll have to rewatch the movie again, maybe take some actual notes while I do it... 😁
ruggedjackal46 ruggedjackal46 Regular
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#17 ·
I think I’m going to have to sit down and rewatch the movie one more time, maybe actually take some notes while I'm at it this time...

I honestly can't decide if I should say "My condolences" or just "Good luck!" πŸ˜‰
Jack Harris3 Jack Harris3 Regular
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#18 ·
Blurry, just totally blurry. My memory is like a sieve, especially when it comes to the little things, and honestly, I couldn't make heads or tails of Snape's potion ingredients no matter how hard I tried... 😁
ruggedjackal46 ruggedjackal46 Regular
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Jack Harris3 said:Forget it, just forget it. My memory is basically a sieve.

Yeah, I definitely remember that one thing we both have in common πŸ™‚

especially regarding detailsβ€”I honestly couldn't make heads or tails of a Snape's potion ingredients in any language. 😁

Honestly, it’s like one of those weird wellness shots you see onlineβ€”just toss in some green herbs, a squeeze of lemon, maybe some crushed copper... πŸ˜‰
Elizabeth Miller8 Elizabeth Miller8 Active Member
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Mr. Dog said:A few of my associates have been going on about how Dobby represents some sort of pinnacle of computer-generated imagery... Honestly, give me a break. If I were to consider him a true achievement, the creature would need to look significantly less artificial than this. In my estimation, they would have been far better off simply hiring an actor with dwarfism to play the role... 😁

Haha, well, personally, I actually think Dobby is pretty great... He’s got this weirdly creepy yet totally adorable vibe. πŸ™‚

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