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Protests in Warsaw.

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Michelle Palmer6 Michelle Palmer6 Regular
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#121 ·
steeleagle70 said:It would all be fine if two different chats on the soccer forum hadn't been spamming everyone since noon to jump over to a specific thread, causing total chaos. Then, it basically turned into a coordinated raid by clones.

I mean, it’s honestly hilarious that you’re even talking, especially when all those posts from banned users—the ones literally announcing they were coming over to mess with the thread—are still sitting right there.

Look, I can pull up about twenty of those posts from banned accounts right now if you want.

There's no way most of them didn't know what was happening or which thread to hit. They weren't "innocent" bystanders getting banned because they were confused.

They knew exactly what they were doing. If you don't believe me, just go scroll through the fans' chats and the soccer forum.

Do you actually have proof for that? I'm talking about the Offside section.
steeleagle70 steeleagle70 Active MemberOP
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#122 ·
Michelle Palmer6 said:Do you actually have proof for that? I'm talking about the Offside section.

For what? For the fact that people knew exactly where they were headed and were dropping those kinds of messages in the chat?
Of course I have proof. I’m literally right here, and I’ve already dropped a few posts in this thread recently. Plus, everyone else sent their stuff straight to the Politics mods whenever they felt like it.
Michelle Palmer6 Michelle Palmer6 Regular
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#123 ·
steeleagle70 said:For what? For the fact that people knew exactly where they were headed and were dropping those kinds of messages in the chat?
Of course I have proof. I’m literally right here, and I’ve already dropped a few posts in this thread recently. Plus, everyone else sent their stuff straight to the Politics mods whenever they felt like it.

I'm talking about the Offside chat on the soccer forum—do you actually have any screenshots?
steeleagle70 steeleagle70 Active MemberOP
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#124 ·
Michelle Palmer6 said:I'm talking about the Offside chat on the soccer forum—do you actually have any screenshots?

Yeah, I mean the soccer chat, the fan chat, and even over on the BBB thread, people were posting stuff just like that.
Michelle Palmer6 Michelle Palmer6 Regular
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#125 ·
steeleagle70 said:Yeah, I mean the soccer chat, the fan chat, and even over on the BBB thread, people were posting stuff just like that.

Come on, show me something from Offside!
A Anonymous Veteran
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#126 ·
steeleagle70 said:Yeah, I mean the soccer chat, the fan chat, and even over on the BBB thread, people were posting stuff just like that.

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steeleagle70 steeleagle70 Active MemberOP
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#127 ·
Michelle Palmer6 said:Come on, show me something from Offside!

Like, 99% of it got wiped, but the mods and admins can see everything. You should probably just hit them up and ask, since I can't grab a link for you right now—believe me, if I could, I would have earlier.

Most of it actually came from the Tavern.

Plus, you'll find plenty of Clinton fans over on Offside, and people were already buzzing about this topic in Politics by around 3 PM. You can totally see it starting from page 4635 and onwards. So, there's no way people didn't know where things were heading. It’s not like they all got banned because they were clueless about the mods cracking down on the thread's direction.
Michelle Palmer6 Michelle Palmer6 Regular
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#128 ·
steeleagle70 said:Like, 99% of it got wiped, but the mods and admins can see everything. You should probably just hit them up and ask, since I can't grab a link for you right now—believe me, if I could, I would have earlier.

Most of it actually came from the Tavern.

Plus, you'll find plenty of Clinton fans over on Offside, and people were already buzzing about this topic in Politics by around 3 PM. You can totally see it starting from page 4635 and onwards. So, there's no way people didn't know where things were heading. It’s not like they all got banned because they were clueless about the mods cracking down on the thread's direction.

Over on Offside, nothing ever gets deleted.
steeleagle70 steeleagle70 Active MemberOP
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#129 ·
Michelle Palmer6 said:Over on Offside, nothing ever gets deleted.

Check it out—this is a post from Offside by Jimi Hendrix. It just goes to show that even in that thread, people were getting inappropriate, picking fights with the mods and trashing the topic itself. Even Clinton's crowd was jumping in. If you check page 4635, you can see them debating the whole thing and how the mods are handling stuff over on Politics.

If you head over to page 4635, there's a thread in Politics where you can clearly see people intentionally posting stuff they knew would get them banned. Pretty wild, right?

The whole thing just proves they weren't clueless about what was going down.
Michelle Palmer6 Michelle Palmer6 Regular
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#130 ·
steeleagle70 said:Check it out—this is a post from Offside by Jimi Hendrix. It just goes to show that even in that thread, people were getting inappropriate, picking fights with the mods and trashing the topic itself. Even Clinton's crowd was jumping in. If you check page 4635, you can see them debating the whole thing and how the mods are handling stuff over on Politics.

If you head over to page 4635, there's a thread in Politics where you can clearly see people intentionally posting stuff they knew would get them banned. Pretty wild, right?

The whole thing just proves they weren't clueless about what was going down.

Seriously, where exactly are you seeing any trolling or chaos going on here?
steeleagle70 steeleagle70 Active MemberOP
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#131 ·
Michelle Palmer6 said:Seriously, where exactly are you seeing any trolling or chaos going on here?

Nobody’s actually calling for it in their quotes, but it’s pretty obvious everyone knew what was going down. You can't listen to that one guy on this forum who claimed people were totally out of the loop—you know, the one who said folks were heading over to the Politics section and getting banned just because they didn't realize the mods there were unhappy with the direction the thread was taking. Plus, if you check page 4635, you can see exactly how long people had been aware of the situation.

Most of those "chaos" complaints were coming straight from the tavern, anyway.
Michelle Palmer6 Michelle Palmer6 Regular
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#132 ·
steeleagle70 said:Nobody’s actually calling for it in their quotes, but it’s pretty obvious everyone knew what was going down. You can't listen to that one guy on this forum who claimed people were totally out of the loop—you know, the one who said folks were heading over to the Politics section and getting banned just because they didn't realize the mods there were unhappy with the direction the thread was taking. Plus, if you check page 4635, you can see exactly how long people had been aware of the situation.

Most of those "chaos" complaints were coming straight from the tavern, anyway.

People were simply posting about the very subject the thread was created for! They were protesting the fact that folks were being banned for doing exactly that. And if you look closely, it was entirely their own initiative, as
everything would have been fine if two different chats on the Soccer board hadn't been actively encouraging everyone to jump onto a specific thread and cause a ruckus since noon.
steeleagle70 steeleagle70 Active MemberOP
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#133 ·
Michelle Palmer6 said:People were simply posting about the very subject the thread was created for! They were protesting the fact that folks were being banned for doing exactly that. And if you look closely, it was entirely their own initiative, as
everything would have been fine if two different chats on the Soccer board hadn't been actively encouraging everyone to jump onto a specific thread and cause a ruckus since noon.

You've got two whole pages of "Clinton's" stuff on Offside. Seems like plenty to me, even though I mentioned earlier that like 90% of the action was happening over at the tavern.

And come on, you know as well as I do that you don't protest red cards or bans inside the specific thread—you take it to the main board. And let's be real, don't go expecting any "legal defense" to work here.

But hey, when it's time to pull out the receipts

We gotta stick together on this one. All of us.

I mean, they basically nuked half the PDF. Plus, there were at least that many fans involved.
Michelle Palmer6 Michelle Palmer6 Regular
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#134 ·
steeleagle70 said:You've got two whole pages of "Clinton's" stuff on Offside. Seems like plenty to me, even though I mentioned earlier that like 90% of the action was happening over at the tavern.

And come on, you know as well as I do that you don't protest red cards or bans inside the specific thread—you take it to the main board. And let's be real, don't go expecting any "legal defense" to work here.

But hey, when it's time to pull out the receipts

We gotta stick together on this one. All of us.

I mean, they basically nuked half the PDF. Plus, there were at least that many fans involved.

So, what we actually have here is one single post and a handful of people who probably know whose clones they are—likely just the crowd from the Tavern—surrounded by about a hundred posts that have absolutely nothing to do with the issue at hand.
It’s a textbook call to arms, really. Honestly, just ban everyone!
briskcrane briskcrane Active Member
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#135 ·
Brian Edwards6 said:You aren't entirely wrong; the chaos at the stadium was essentially a revolt against big capital and the seizure of public space, which feels almost as absurdly similar to those protests in Warsaw. It’s almost comical.🤣

Kudos to the moderators for all the hard work.👍




Not "partly"—it's spot on.
Big capital = Mamic...
Public space = Stadium...

Since when were lawyers allowed to post here?


steeleagle70 steeleagle70 Active MemberOP
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#136 ·
Michelle Palmer6 said:So, what we actually have here is one single post and a handful of people who probably know whose clones they are—likely just the crowd from the Tavern—surrounded by about a hundred posts that have absolutely nothing to do with the issue at hand.
It’s a textbook call to arms, really. Honestly, just ban everyone!

Look, I said about 90% were from the Tavern and the rest came from BBB and Offside.
And I gave you the link to Offside, which is exactly what you asked for.
I didn't say the bulk of them were on Offside, just that there was some presence there, and I proved it to you.

Hand out cards to whoever deserves them. Honestly, I was the first one to get a yellow card on that thread—totally deserved it myself.
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#137 ·
steeleagle70 said:Check it out—this is a post from Offside by Jimi Hendrix. It just goes to show that even in that thread, people were getting inappropriate, picking fights with the mods and trashing the topic itself. Even Clinton's crowd was jumping in. If you check page 4635, you can see them debating the whole thing and how the mods are handling stuff over on Politics.

If you head over to page 4635, there's a thread in Politics where you can clearly see people intentionally posting stuff they knew would get them banned. Pretty wild, right?

The whole thing just proves they weren't clueless about what was going down.

Why are you twisting the facts again?
Let's all take a look at the full page together and see exactly how and why those comments started...

And let's check if anyone had already been banned:

And here is what the other participants had to say once they realized what was happening in the thread:

Unfortunately... I can't find the specific part you're looking for regarding the call to cause trouble... or can you, you little troll?
Michelle Palmer6 Michelle Palmer6 Regular
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#138 ·
Quick question for the moderators on the Politics board: would I be allowed to start a thread discussing the public reaction to the January 15th events and what’s happening over in Warsaw now that you've all given it such a beautiful makeover?
I honestly think it's going to be a massive hit once the guys with the badges come charging in on horseback—or maybe something improvised if they haven't picked up horses yet—perhaps using some cargo to knock over an old lady who's busy banging a spoon against a pot.
steeleagle70 steeleagle70 Active MemberOP
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#139 ·
Adam Collins4 said:The mods can verify that themselves...

And you said it yourself—a few people took Clinton's names and jumped over to Politics... I'm just wondering where exactly you're getting your intel from...☕

I’m honestly starting to worry that once they get banned over there, they'll just migrate right back here to the Soccer forum...

If you're posting while one of your accounts is banned, it doesn't matter which sub-forum you're in; you're still violating the rule against using an alternative account while one is under suspension.

Oh, some people definitely did. Even YELLOW ANT actually bragged about it himself.
Matthew Anderson4 Matthew Anderson4 Regular
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#140 ·
steeleagle70 said:Look, I’m not talking about the Clintons. I even gave you an example where they aren't involved in the game. The Clinton crowd swarmed in last night. Also, I wasn't really bringing up a specific timeline for when things were planned—that's not my business—but I am providing proof that most of these people didn't just wander into this thread by accident and get banned out of ignorance... most knew exactly where they were going and why. They knew the politics mods wouldn't let the topic head in that direction.

And obviously, it’s not like everyone from the soccer community came here to be troublemakers. It’s the ones being banned who are causing the mess, plus there are plenty of unbanned fans still posting in that thread today.

The saddest part is that you guys completely lost all credibility with this move. Up until now, some people actually believed that there was a widespread crackdown against the fans happening everywhere. But now? You're just telling the same old story. We don't even need to read the news to see it; we saw the pattern ourselves during the "protest" and how the moderators handled the discipline.

Nobody wandered in. But nobody showed up intending to cause chaos like you're making it out to be (except for those Clinton types already mentioned). The people who showed up were there to discuss the actual subject laid out in the OPENING POST. They stayed on topic.

The thread opened at 1:54 PM. Ryan Vaughn7’s warning (which was also his first) telling everyone not to draw parallels to fans—even though the whole reason the thread exists is because you guys keep ignoring that—didn't come until 5:21 PM. Nothing happened before then; the conversation had already moved in its direction. For three hours, people were posting stuff that was perfectly on topic, and then they got banned. Brilliant work by the mods.

steeleagle70 said:Look, I’m not talking about the Clintons. I even gave you an example where they aren't involved in the game. The Clinton crowd swarmed in last night. Also, I wasn't really bringing up a specific timeline for when things were planned—that's not my business—but I am providing proof that most of these people didn't just wander into this thread by accident and get banned out of ignorance... most knew exactly where they were going and why. They knew the politics mods wouldn't let the topic head in that direction.

And obviously, it’s not like everyone from the soccer community came here to be troublemakers. It’s the ones being banned who are causing the mess, plus there are plenty of unbanned fans still posting in that thread today.

The saddest part is that you guys completely lost all credibility with this move. Up until now, some people actually believed that there was a widespread crackdown against the fans happening everywhere. But now? You're just telling the same old story. We don't even need to read the news to see it; we saw the pattern ourselves during the "protest" and how the moderators handled the discipline.

Credibility? We never had any credibility with people like you to begin with. And it wasn't our fault.

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