Apologies and a request to come back

What’s even the issue? If Manny Pacquiao gets a partial ban on the soccer subreddit, it’s a hundred percent certain he won’t make a single clone and won't step foot in the soccer world ever again. It’s as clear as day.😉 Honestly, I don't see what your problem is in this scenario or why anyone is complaining about it. 🤷 Look, his biggest wish is just to post on the Formula 1 sub and play in the tournaments and leagues. We’ll make sure the rules include sanctions and bans from those competitions if any clones show up on soccer or if there's inappropriate behavior—basically, if he gets banned. I am 1000% sure Manny Pacquiao won't let himself lose the right to compete in championships that were literally started because of his idea and initiative.😉 There isn't even a shred of a theory that he'd actually do that.☕

He mostly made clones because he was trying to find a way back in to participate in the games. In this case, there is absolutely zero reason left for him to do that, or to even write about soccer. After this whole debate, it's pretty obvious he learned his lesson. 😉 Is he maybe posting on soccer right now? He isn't even responding to your accusations, he's not arguing with you, and he isn't insulting anyone. He posted an apology and is waiting for a resolution. He’s definitely showing he's much more mature and smarter than before.

mistybear87 said:Speaking as an F1 moderator, I can confirm he’s definitely cleaned up his act regarding Formula 1, so I personally don't see any issue with granting him access.

Of course, everything will be under heavy scrutiny, but I honestly think he can pull it off.🙂

Jose Miller3 said:not that anyone actually gives a damn, but after all those nasty insults thrown at sepe, the moderators, and pretty much anyone else Manny Pacquiao felt like attacking—stuff we spent days scrubbing and banning him from the restricted area for (strictly because of his language and that totally unacceptable way he talks to people)—I am dead set against giving him a second chance, or any chance for that matter.

so you want to post on forums? cool, go find some other place where you haven't spent three months insulting about 20 different moderators 🤷 you're an adult, great, happy birthday, now try learning how to deal with the consequences of your own actions.

Sepa is basically the only moderator on the Formula 1 board, and if you look at the post I quoted above, you can see where he's coming from. It seems like we just want to grant him access to that one specific Formula PDF and nothing else. To me, that feels fair—it keeps things controlled and ensures he won't have any way to offend other members on Reddit. He has actually improved his behavior, and even though Mommy was being harsh toward him, he chose to forgive her. Honestly, I think we should give him another chance. Just one more chance, that's all I'm asking for.It wouldn’t even be that hard to permaban him again if he starts acting up.

Thanks.

stormybadger8 said:What’s even the issue? If Manny Pacquiao gets a partial ban on the soccer subreddit, it’s a hundred percent certain he won’t make a single clone and won't step foot in the soccer world ever again. It’s as clear as day.😉 Honestly, I don't see what your problem is in this scenario or why anyone is complaining about it. 🤷 Look, his biggest wish is just to post on the Formula 1 sub and play in the tournaments and leagues. We’ll make sure the rules include sanctions and bans from those competitions if any clones show up on soccer or if there's inappropriate behavior—basically, if he gets banned. I am 1000% sure Manny Pacquiao won't let himself lose the right to compete in championships that were literally started because of his idea and initiative.😉 There isn't even a shred of a theory that he'd actually do that.☕

He mostly made clones because he was trying to find a way back in to participate in the games. In this case, there is absolutely zero reason left for him to do that, or to even write about soccer. After this whole debate, it's pretty obvious he learned his lesson. 😉 Is he maybe posting on soccer right now? He isn't even responding to your accusations, he's not arguing with you, and he isn't insulting anyone. He posted an apology and is waiting for a resolution. He’s definitely showing he's much more mature and smarter than before.

He also used clones to insult people, spam, and post obscene (to put it politely) images on the soccer board. How else are you going to explain the existence of users with nicknames like Algeria, Angola, Benin, Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Central African Republic, Chad, Djibouti, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, South Africa, Cameroon, and Kenya (I think I got most of them, who could possibly keep track of them all?) and, by the way, accounts like Manny Pacquiao1, Manny Pacquiao2...

You guys just need to realize that because of how he acted, he would be kicked out of any online community, not to mention in real life. Out there, with insults and threats like that, he'd get a permanent ban from life itself.

Let him face the consequences of his own actions.

I'll say it again: he had the exact opportunity you all are looking for, and he blew it.

Count me in too!!!

Since I’ve been one of the more model citizens on this Reddit, and having spent a solid year hanging out here... I feel like I really need to weigh in on this whole mess.

Look, I’m not looking for a fight or trying to start some drama—that’s just not what us Formula 1 fans are about (even though I can see some random outsiders drifting in right now, clearly just trying to poison the well by dumping their own personal frustrations and disappointments onto this thread).... I'll just say this..

I’ve known the guy for a year now, and honestly, he’s easily one of the most consistent and loyal people on this site; he’s probably brought more people to this community than all of us combined. Sure, I’ll admit Manny Pacquiao messed up plenty of times, but doesn't everyone deserve a second chance?

The simple fact that he’s actually willing to try a comeback shows how much he wants to change and start over from scratch... I don't think anyone loses anything by giving him another shot so he can prove to us he’s actually grown up and changed his ways.😉

Michelle Palmer6 said:He also used clones to insult people, spam, and post obscene (to put it politely) images on the soccer board. How else are you going to explain the existence of users with nicknames like Algeria, Angola, Benin, Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Central African Republic, Chad, Djibouti, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, South Africa, Cameroon, and Kenya (I think I got most of them, who could possibly keep track of them all?) and, by the way, accounts like Manny Pacquiao1, Manny Pacquiao2...

You guys just need to realize that because of how he acted, he would be kicked out of any online community, not to mention in real life. Out there, with insults and threats like that, he'd get a permanent ban from life itself.

Let him face the consequences of his own actions.

I'll say it again: he had the exact opportunity you all are looking for, and he blew it.

🤣 To add a little levity to the situation: at least they managed to cover all of Africa. 😉

Michelle Palmer6 said:He also used clones to insult people, spam, and post obscene (to put it politely) images on the soccer board. How else are you going to explain the existence of users with nicknames like Algeria, Angola, Benin, Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Central African Republic, Chad, Djibouti, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, South Africa, Cameroon, and Kenya (I think I got most of them, who could possibly keep track of them all?) and, by the way, accounts like Manny Pacquiao1, Manny Pacquiao2...

You guys just need to realize that because of how he acted, he would be kicked out of any online community, not to mention in real life. Out there, with insults and threats like that, he'd get a permanent ban from life itself.

Let him face the consequences of his own actions.

I'll say it again: he had the exact opportunity you all are looking for, and he blew it.

The Formula 1 subforum is just another online community. And that community wants him gone.

Michelle Palmer6 said:He also used clones to insult people, spam, and post obscene (to put it politely) images on the soccer board. How else are you going to explain the existence of users with nicknames like Algeria, Angola, Benin, Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Central African Republic, Chad, Djibouti, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, South Africa, Cameroon, and Kenya (I think I got most of them, who could possibly keep track of them all?) and, by the way, accounts like Manny Pacquiao1, Manny Pacquiao2...

You guys just need to realize that because of how he acted, he would be kicked out of any online community, not to mention in real life. Out there, with insults and threats like that, he'd get a permanent ban from life itself.

Let him face the consequences of his own actions.

I'll say it again: he had the exact opportunity you all are looking for, and he blew it.

I haven't seen a single one of those clones insulting anyone on the Formula 1 boards, 🤷 so whether they're his or not, I have no clue.
I'm one of the few who's been against Manny Pacquiao playing in these competitions as a banned user since day one. I've been complaining about his way of playing and the rules—we were literally acting like cats and dogs.🤣 I lost to him in the quarterfinals and got knocked out (turns out that was one of his clones), and even so, I still think we should 😉return mommy first
. By all accounts, I should be against this, but I'm not, which means he definitely wasn't bad on the Formula 1 boards.😉
Why, how, where, or when he clashed with the soccer mods? I have no idea and honestly don't care, because I don't write on the soccer boards or even read them. Personally, I think neither him nor the rest of you soccer fans should be here if you get a permanent ban from the soccer section—at least that's my take.🤷

Anyway, this is ultimately up to the admins, not us regular users. It's honestly pointless for us to argue about it here. I've stated my opinion, you've stated yours, and that's fine.🙂
But for me, the debate ends here, because I really don't see where this is going other than endless, mindless bickering.🤷

Michelle Palmer6 said:I think you’re forgetting about that whole situation right after the permanent ban, when Maminho set up a clone account under a different nickname! I am absolutely thrilled to be here! I’ve been following the racing scene for ages, and there is just nothing quite like the adrenaline of a high-stakes race weekend. It truly gets my heart racing!He was posting freely on both the OS and NASCAR boards, even though anyone with half a brain could tell it was him. Even some of the football moderators were also active over on the OS side. Everything was running smoothly until that one Alonsista fan decided to drift over to the football section—acting exactly like his mama would expect—only to get slapped with a permanent ban immediately. Of course, that triggered a massive wave of bans for his next dozen or so clones, too!
So, he actually had the exact opportunity you’re advocating for—but let’s be honest, he completely blew it. And just a side note here: if we were talking about banning him from just one NASCAR forum, that would basically trigger a partial ban across almost all the others, or at least most of them. Trust me, nobody is going to do you a favor like that for a spammer who’s already been permanently banned!
Greetings to everyone!

Look, it’s not even about him being a "nuisance" to me personally. Honestly, I’ve reached a point where I can just tune stuff like that out. The real issue here is his behavior—it was downright delinquent. He was being incredibly rude and basically flouting every single rule of standard internet etiquette, common sense, and basic decency. As for the idea of banning him or unbanning him based on whether he's "relatively constructive" in one specific subforum while being a total menace everywhere else? To be blunt, I think that logic is just plain foolish.
And let’s be honest, that whole "one more shot" political strategy stopped working for Momma a long time ago!

Wait, hold on! Just to be clear, we're talking about Other Sports here—this definitely isn't football!

From what I can see, he's only active in a few specific areas: the sports boards and TV (plus, obviously, the gossip threads 😁). So, it wouldn't be a huge deal to just slap a partial ban on soccer and the other sports sections to solve the problem. I'm not sure about the TV section, but I doubt anyone there would even notice if he showed up, assuming he even posts there.
It’s not quite the same thing as alonsista, though. If Manny Pacquiao actually got unbanned, I bet he'd think twice before making a clone for the soccer section and risking a permanent ban that would be final—not to mention losing the support of the guys over in Formula 1.

And besides, it's already been said...

As if it’s even hard to permaban him again if he starts acting up.

Just a few mouse clicks.😉

Michelle Palmer6 said:It’s just not possible.
There are users out there who received permanent bans for way, way less than what Maminho was doing, and yet nobody even thought to step in and help them. Look, I don’t have anything against Maminho personally, but I really feel like we need to establish some kind of standard threshold when it comes to this stuff. Consistency matters!

Honestly, who’s actually guaranteeing that things will change? He’s already been given plenty of opportunities, and I just don't see how "one more shot" is going to fix anything this time around. When you look at the history here, we've seen this exact same circus play out multiple times before. Every single time he was granted "one last chance" or hit with a mountain of warnings, he responded with the same old nonsense: insults, trolling, and constant spamming. It's a broken cycle.
The internet is a massive place—plenty of room for everyone! They should just go find a home somewhere else.

I am all for this!

nerazzurri, don't beat around the bush,
why hasn't anyone bothered to help them?

for 👍 Manny Pacquiao

Since I spent a little bit of time acting as a mod on the Formula 1 sub-forum, I’m actually in favor of this request. It’s pretty obvious the whole crew over there wants Manny Pacquiao involved, including Sep who is one of the moderators. Besides that, the last Manny Pacquiao clone—which actually lasted quite a while (The Cat 🙂)—really wasn't causing any trouble at all.
I think we should seriously consider this request and just give him limited posting privileges again. Even if it’s just restricted to the Formula 1 section, let Sep see if that works out.

Well, Inter fans, that's it—from your 5:34 PM post onwards from this point on, this PDF and thread are amazing; seriously, just a massive collection of stunning, beautiful, and top-tier images. A perfect example , even better . It’s definitely a huge plus that Manny Pacquiao will never post about soccer again, but mostly it's for his own sake and his eyes.
If posting stuff like this is considered normal here—especially coming from a moderator—what are we even supposed to expect from a 17-year-old kid who wanders in by mistake? 🤷The behavior of the group reflects the individual. Now I get why Manny Pacquiao was totally chill in Formula 1 but went crazy in soccer; clearly, this kind of behavior is just standard practice there. 😲I first hung out on Reddit back from 1998 to 2002, then came back from 2004 until now with just one username change, and I have never, ever seen anything like this on the Formula 1 or AV Tech subreddits I frequent. I barely even watch soccer, but after this, I'm definitely done. 😱

You guys might think this is some big joke, but as a father with two little kids, I find this absolutely disgusting. 👎

Sorry, I said I wouldn't write anymore, but I couldn't just sit here and stay silent.

Jose Miller3 said:not that anyone actually gives a damn, but after all those nasty insults thrown at sepe, the moderators, and pretty much anyone else Manny Pacquiao felt like attacking—stuff we spent days scrubbing and banning him from the restricted area for (strictly because of his language and that totally unacceptable way he talks to people)—I am dead set against giving him a second chance, or any chance for that matter.

so you want to post on forums? cool, go find some other place where you haven't spent three months insulting about 20 different moderators 🤷 you're an adult, great, happy birthday, now try learning how to deal with the consequences of your own actions.

Signature. ☕

Michelle Palmer6 said:It’s just not possible.
There are users out there who received permanent bans for way, way less than what Maminho was doing, and yet nobody even thought to step in and help them. Look, I don’t have anything against Maminho personally, but I really feel like we need to establish some kind of standard threshold when it comes to this stuff. Consistency matters!

Honestly, who’s actually guaranteeing that things will change? He’s already been given plenty of opportunities, and I just don't see how "one more shot" is going to fix anything this time around. When you look at the history here, we've seen this exact same circus play out multiple times before. Every single time he was granted "one last chance" or hit with a mountain of warnings, he responded with the same old nonsense: insults, trolling, and constant spamming. It's a broken cycle.
The internet is a massive place—plenty of room for everyone! They should just go find a home somewhere else.

I am all for this!

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Michelle Palmer6 said:First off, do you have any idea how many clone accounts he made? I honestly stopped counting after the 20th one.
Second, he was straight-up insulting and threatening the moderators over in the Football section—who, by the way, have absolutely zero tolerance for his antics, both before and after his permanent ban.
Third, he flooded and spammed almost every single thread he touched, often using incredibly vulgar and offensive language toward other users. It was borderline pathological!
All of this happened right here on the main site, where the general community rules apply to every single subforum and every corner of the platform.
Partial bans are usually reserved for trolls who just want to derail one specific discussion thread. But this guy? He proved himself a problem time and time again across multiple sections, including Football, Tech Support, and even during the Euro 2008 discussions. He even had partial bans in your section too!

Look, I have a partial ban on one specific thread, but I don't recognize myself in this current situation, nor does anyone else here ever complain about me. So, why should I be surprised? ☕

stormybadger8 said:Well, Inter fans, that's it—from your 5:34 PM post onwards from this point on, this PDF and thread are amazing; seriously, just a massive collection of stunning, beautiful, and top-tier images. A perfect example , even better . It’s definitely a huge plus that Manny Pacquiao will never post about soccer again, but mostly it's for his own sake and his eyes.
If posting stuff like this is considered normal here—especially coming from a moderator—what are we even supposed to expect from a 17-year-old kid who wanders in by mistake? 🤷The behavior of the group reflects the individual. Now I get why Manny Pacquiao was totally chill in Formula 1 but went crazy in soccer; clearly, this kind of behavior is just standard practice there. 😲I first hung out on Reddit back from 1998 to 2002, then came back from 2004 until now with just one username change, and I have never, ever seen anything like this on the Formula 1 or AV Tech subreddits I frequent. I barely even watch soccer, but after this, I'm definitely done. 😱

You guys might think this is some big joke, but as a father with two little kids, I find this absolutely disgusting. 👎

Sorry, I said I wouldn't write anymore, but I couldn't just sit here and stay silent.

You are an idiot. 🤣🤣

Just hand out the ban already, for heaven's sake, because this is some next-level idiocy. 🤣

The environment is to blame for Manny Pacquiao's behavior; he's actually a smart guy, so there really isn't much left to say here. 🤣

stormybadger8 said:Well, Inter fans, that's it—from your 5:34 PM post onwards from this point on, this PDF and thread are amazing; seriously, just a massive collection of stunning, beautiful, and top-tier images. A perfect example , even better . It’s definitely a huge plus that Manny Pacquiao will never post about soccer again, but mostly it's for his own sake and his eyes.
If posting stuff like this is considered normal here—especially coming from a moderator—what are we even supposed to expect from a 17-year-old kid who wanders in by mistake? 🤷The behavior of the group reflects the individual. Now I get why Manny Pacquiao was totally chill in Formula 1 but went crazy in soccer; clearly, this kind of behavior is just standard practice there. 😲I first hung out on Reddit back from 1998 to 2002, then came back from 2004 until now with just one username change, and I have never, ever seen anything like this on the Formula 1 or AV Tech subreddits I frequent. I barely even watch soccer, but after this, I'm definitely done. 😱

You guys might think this is some big joke, but as a father with two little kids, I find this absolutely disgusting. 👎

Sorry, I said I wouldn't write anymore, but I couldn't just sit here and stay silent.

How can granitefox16 possibly bother you? 🤷

placidnomad50 said:You are an idiot. 🤣🤣

Just hand out the ban already, for heaven's sake, because this is some next-level idiocy. 🤣

The environment is to blame for Manny Pacquiao's behavior; he's actually a smart guy, so there really isn't much left to say here. 🤣

😂😂😂

Taylor Gonzalez79 said:Maybe we should just go ahead and cut Charles loose.

🙂

stormybadger8 said:Well, Inter fans, that's it—from your 5:34 PM post onwards from this point on, this PDF and thread are amazing; seriously, just a massive collection of stunning, beautiful, and top-tier images. A perfect example , even better . It’s definitely a huge plus that Manny Pacquiao will never post about soccer again, but mostly it's for his own sake and his eyes.
If posting stuff like this is considered normal here—especially coming from a moderator—what are we even supposed to expect from a 17-year-old kid who wanders in by mistake? 🤷The behavior of the group reflects the individual. Now I get why Manny Pacquiao was totally chill in Formula 1 but went crazy in soccer; clearly, this kind of behavior is just standard practice there. 😲I first hung out on Reddit back from 1998 to 2002, then came back from 2004 until now with just one username change, and I have never, ever seen anything like this on the Formula 1 or AV Tech subreddits I frequent. I barely even watch soccer, but after this, I'm definitely done. 😱

You guys might think this is some big joke, but as a father with two little kids, I find this absolutely disgusting. 👎

Sorry, I said I wouldn't write anymore, but I couldn't just sit here and stay silent.

Hey, Carlos is an admin ☕

If you’re going to unban Manny Pacquiao, I suppose it would only be fair to unban every other user who's been hit with a permanent ban, right? 🙂
Personally, I’m against it🙂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh6wtATgJRs

🤣🤣🤣

stormybadger8 said:Well, Inter fans, that's it—from your 5:34 PM post onwards from this point on, this PDF and thread are amazing; seriously, just a massive collection of stunning, beautiful, and top-tier images. A perfect example , even better . It’s definitely a huge plus that Manny Pacquiao will never post about soccer again, but mostly it's for his own sake and his eyes.
If posting stuff like this is considered normal here—especially coming from a moderator—what are we even supposed to expect from a 17-year-old kid who wanders in by mistake? 🤷The behavior of the group reflects the individual. Now I get why Manny Pacquiao was totally chill in Formula 1 but went crazy in soccer; clearly, this kind of behavior is just standard practice there. 😲I first hung out on Reddit back from 1998 to 2002, then came back from 2004 until now with just one username change, and I have never, ever seen anything like this on the Formula 1 or AV Tech subreddits I frequent. I barely even watch soccer, but after this, I'm definitely done. 😱

You guys might think this is some big joke, but as a father with two little kids, I find this absolutely disgusting. 👎

Sorry, I said I wouldn't write anymore, but I couldn't just sit here and stay silent.

Oh, please! As if we actually sat him down and taught him how to be offensive, make threats, spam everyone, or act like a total troll. Give me a break!🙄
So, let me get this straight—you’re claiming that absolutely nobody on Reddit has kids, nieces, younger brothers, or sisters? Honestly, you are taking things completely out of context now and turning this into a total joke!🙂
It looks like Mommy taught you a thing or two about how to troll!🙂

Joshua Newman2 said:🤣 To add a little levity to the situation: at least they managed to cover all of Africa. 😉

The Formula 1 subforum is just another online community. And that community wants him gone.

Not quite. Reddit is an entire online community, whereas the F1 section is tiny—I’d even call it a microscopic slice of that user base. To be honest, the rest of the community doesn't want them back.
Let’s not forget that this group also includes the moderators and admins—all of whom are huge fans of Manny Pacquiao! threatened Honestly, I think God probably stepped in just to save him from getting hit with a massive abuse report—not to mention a call to the police!

Edward Howard2
It’s not quite the same thing. If Manny Pacquiao had his account unbanned, I honestly think he’d think twice before trying to run a soccer clone account. He wouldn't want to risk another permanent ban—especially one where there's zero chance of coming back—and he definitely wouldn't want to lose the support of his buddies over on the Formula 1 subforum.

It really is the same thing. In fact, I'd argue it's even more telling because nobody actually sat him down and dictated the terms to him. In that moment, he showed everyone his true colors.🙂

jadetiger25 said:nerazzurri, don't beat around the bush,
why hasn't anyone bothered to help them?

for 👍 Manny Pacquiao

Because they've been permanently banned! You really think people haven't tried helping? Let me tell you, those guys never even had half the "chances" Manny Pacquiao had, nor did they cause nearly as much trouble as he did.

And just to throw this out there: people have been slapped with permanent bans for just two or three problematic clone accounts, yet here you all are, demanding justice for a guy with over 30 clones. It feels a bit hypocritical, doesn't it?🙂
Justice for Uros 🙂 Google it if you don't know what that means.