Bahrain Grand Prix (Outer Loop) | December 4-6, 2020

Don't talk nonsense. Just remember how things went for Fisichella when he stepped into that Force India seat as a sub for Massa; Kimi absolutely tore him apart as if they weren't even driving the same cars.

silverviper44 said:I think that disastrous pit stop by Valtteri Bottas just killed any chance he had at winning.

They straight up screwed over both Bottas and George Russell—all just to keep Lewis Hamilton looking good.

This was totally rigged.

So, Russell is claiming he left everything out there on the track.

Honestly, I can't help but think that if Lewis Hamilton had been behind the wheel instead, he probably would have just cruised to a victory, and his post-race comments would have sounded way more like "just another day at the office" rather than "I gave it my absolute all." ☕

For those folks like Tibi and the rest who love to hear themselves talk—Max basically summed up his thoughts on Lewis and all that nonsense about anyone being able to do it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFV895InN_c&t=15m23s

mellowtiger83 said:Don't talk nonsense. Just remember how things went for Fisichella when he stepped into that Force India seat as a sub for Massa; Kimi absolutely tore him apart as if they weren't even driving the same cars.

Nobody is talking nonsense here. Fisichella's results were exactly what you'd expect given his actual driving talent.

What on earth just happened with George Russell

stormytiger4 said:Xenophobia? I wasn't even talking about Americans, I was talking about their NASCAR stock cars. 😳

Honestly, I think this race by Russell might actually hurt Hamilton more than it hurts Valtteri Bottas. Look, we all know Bottas isn't exactly at his peak anymore, but now it's blindingly obvious how easy it is for Hamilton to look like a record-breaker when he's sitting in a car like this.

Americans have some legit racing—high-quality stuff like IndyCar and IMSA.

NASCAR is just a freak show for the masses; doesn't even count as real racing.

shadowmarlin22 said:For those folks like Tibi and the rest who love to hear themselves talk—Max basically summed up his thoughts on Lewis and all that nonsense about anyone being able to do it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFV895InN_c&t=15m23s

Now go ahead and find me the post where Tibi actually said anyone could do it...

Nicholas Newman2 said:Nobody is talking nonsense here. Fisichella's results were exactly what you'd expect given his actual driving talent.

Not really. 👍

Fisichella is a driver of exceptional talent who simply hasn't had the cards fall his way throughout his career.

Your grasp on motorsport seems a bit superficial; it isn't just him—plenty of drivers have ended up worse off than they deserved due to pure chance.

Mercedes-Benz 🤣

Alex Barnes93 said:Like Lewis Hamilton in Germany back in 2019, right? Honestly, if you're gonna try and butcher my sentence and twist my words just to change the context, maybe check your vision first. You clearly aren't seeing the full picture here.

Something like that. 👍 But significantly better.

Max has become an expert on hitting walls. 😉

William Gomez5 said:Mercedes gets hit with a $22k fine, but George Russell keeps his points

Quote : this was caused by a radio communications technical issue wherein The piti wall ’ failed to tell the crew that Car 63 was heading into the pits before Car 77. Because the driver of Car 63 talked over the radio at the exact same time, the crew never heard the instruction. This led to the front tires of Car 77 accidentally rolling right over Car 63 since they were double-stacked in the box.

Look, this is a straight-up violation of the rulebook. Usually, you're looking at a heavy sporting penalty or even a full-on Disqualification. But, they decided to cut them some slack here because of some extra complicating factors beyond just that radio glitch.

Their explanation is honestly pretty weird...
I mean, seriously, why aren't they actually tracking the race from the pits?

It makes zero sense how they thought Bottas could jump ahead of Russell during a double pit stop when he was like 7 or 8 seconds back, if I remember correctly.🤔

mellowtiger83 said:Not really. 👍

Fisichella is a driver of exceptional talent who simply hasn't had the cards fall his way throughout his career.

Your grasp on motorsport seems a bit superficial; it isn't just him—plenty of drivers have ended up worse off than they deserved due to pure chance.

My take on the sport is subjective, which makes it pretty much irrelevant. On the other hand, your reading of the facts? That’s just superficial.

Having immense talent isn't the same thing as being an elite driver.
Most of these guys are incredibly talented. If they weren't, they wouldn't even be able to hold a spot in the circus. I'm talking about the top-tier drivers, obviously.

stormybadger8 said:Obviously, it’s a given they wouldn't fail, but under these circumstances, just finishing in the top 10 isn't exactly "failing"...
In my opinion, getting a top 10 result in that car is a realistic goal for any solid driver like Sergio Perez or Nico Hulkenberg...
But honestly, even if they pulled Fernando Alonso out of retirement right now, I wouldn't expect much more from him given the situation...

A podium is already a massive stretch for almost everyone, and for an absolute top driver in peak form, maybe 3rd place is the limit (if someone dropped Lewis Hamilton into that car—he'd be dealing with a totally unfamiliar machine and crew, so I wouldn't expect miracles)...
Realistically, even giving Max Verstappen or Valtteri Bottas a shot is a huge ask considering how chaotic it would be to suddenly throw them into a new car and team.
But based on the car itself, a top finish for Perez, Carlos Sainz, Lando Norris, or Daniel Ricciardo is technically possible, even if it's incredibly tough—and you’d still need to be an elite driver to pull it off.

Expecting a win or even 2nd place is just pure fantasy for anyone...
Expecting Bottas to win when he's actually in his element is totally unrealistic.
And expecting Max? Forget it. Honestly, I don't think even Bottas could beat him.

Even though I consider him a top-tier driver, I wouldn't bet on him making the podium. If you're asking me about Max Verstappen, though? I'd take that bet any day. For him, standing on that podium is just part of his daily routine.

I guess Mercedes-Benz never makes a mistake? Let's go, Sergio

Linda Peterson43 said:I’ve been sitting here listening to an interview with Russell, and I have to say, the guy is incredibly mature, composed, and grounded...

Anyone else in his position would probably be breaking down, pointing fingers, and whining about everything... and I won't even get into names right now... 🙂

I truly wish him nothing but the best in his career; he absolutely deserves to be behind the wheel of a top-tier car...

Fernando Alonso

William Gomez5 said:Crofty says

- Russell will probably get the DQ because he used up one extra set of tires (mostly because they put him on Bottas's)

- Charles gets a Charles Three Place grid penalty for next week

What a guy. This guy is never gonna score points. Ever. In his entire career.
Consider this a warning sign.

Nicholas Newman2 said:My take on the sport is subjective, which makes it pretty much irrelevant. On the other hand, your reading of the facts? That’s just superficial.

Having immense talent isn't the same thing as being an elite driver.
Most of these guys are incredibly talented. If they weren't, they wouldn't even be able to hold a spot in the circus. I'm talking about the top-tier drivers, obviously.

Even though I consider him a top-tier driver, I wouldn't bet on him making the podium. If you're asking me about Max Verstappen, though? I'd take that bet any day. For him, standing on that podium is just part of his daily routine.

When it comes to Max, I’d bet my life savings on him...
As for the guy in the Mercedes, I'm pretty sure he won't just miss the podium—he might not even finish the race.
The guy is in a totally unfamiliar car and a completely new environment. He's a wild driver who pushes things to the absolute limit constantly... honestly, it's a recipe for disaster.

Anyway, regarding Fisichella, he's a perfect example of what I mean. ☕
Fisichella was on the podium just one race before moving over to Ferrari...
And he didn't just make the podium; he was actually fighting for the win against Ferrari, but lost because the Ferrari was simply a better car...
And then, oh look at that, the very next race he jumps into that superior Ferrari and barely scrapes into the top 10. Not making the points at all is a massive step down from where he was.

God, what absolute idiots... we just threw a guaranteed win right down the drain because of these morons

coastalwolf6 said:Something like that. 👍 But significantly better.

Max has become an expert on hitting walls. 😉

Seriously though, he's such an "expert" that he's actually got fewer wall hits in his career than Lewis—go ahead and do the math yourself if you don't believe me, just look at the average per 100 races.

Dana Murphy4 said:I guess I’m just a little confused by some people claiming that Perez didn't deserve his win today. It seems a bit strange to say he was undeserving when he was sitting all the way back in 18th place after the first 😁

Sergio Perez is easily the best driver in Formula 1 right now

I've been preaching this like a broken record for weeks, but y'all just refuse to listen.

He’ll be sitting in a Mercedes-Benz seat next season. Just watch.