Bahrain Grand Prix (Outer Loop) | December 4-6, 2020

Kenneth Cruz67 said:And let's not forget he's been testing for Mercedes since 2017. It was actually his very first time ever getting behind the wheel of a real race car. Honestly, it's almost like a Cinderella story unfolding in small steps.

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Alex Barnes93 said:BREAKING NEWS: Reddit just dropped a massive bombshell—turns out Formula 1 is actually a constructors' championship, meaning the fastest car wins regardless of who’s behind the wheel.

More details coming your way soon...

👍The big question remains: when will everyone realize that Russell is a top-tier talent?🤔

Kenneth Cruz67 said:I guess you could say there isn't much left for him to learn here, because Russell has already spent so much time behind the wheel of this car, not to mention his previous stints driving for Mercedes-Benz and the models before that. Even during his time at Williams Racing, he was essentially chasing the same Mercedes engine performance, so I suppose there really isn't anything truly unknown to him. It probably helps quite a bit that the regulations haven't seen any major shifts over the last five or six years, either!

Back in the old days of Formula 1, I guess teams would only manage to clock about 30,000 kilometers during their testing sessions, whereas nowadays, it feels like you can wrap up a few days of testing and head straight into the season opener!

Well, it’s finally Friday, so I suppose we’ll just have to wait and see how everything unfolds during qualifying and the race itself!

Hold on. I don't want to be the one to ruin the fun.
You see how people were arguing with those canned responses on the previous pages? Now that there's actual conversation, it might carry some weight.🤦

Maybe it's symptomatic, or maybe not, but whenever Leclerc beats Vettel, this guy suddenly can't drive.🙏

haha Russell without any points again🤣🤣🤣
Put Valtteri Bottas back on the track using the exact same tires he started with😵😵😵

The mental gymnastics being pulled by two moderators is unreal—just constantly shifting the narrative just to find ways to discredit Lewis Hamilton. Seriously. 🙏🙏🙏

Are we going to start listing all the championships won by Senna, Schumacher, or Prost where they didn't actually have the best race car?

I haven't caught any of the practice sessions yet. Is there some kind of issue going on at turn number 7? It feels like that corner is absolutely vital if you want to nail a perfect lap.

Man, I don't even know why I root for this team anymore... 🤦

Let's go, Perez!! This guy falls all the way to last place behind that absolute clown Leclerc, then somehow bounces back to first, while Alexander Albon is out here struggling just to claw his way up from 12th to 6th. 🙄

bluepuma9 said:Unproven slander?
Those Benetton cars sat in various collectors' hands for years, and they eventually found hidden traction control software that could be triggered through a secret menu. And let's not forget, back in '94, Ayrton Senna was saying he could clearly hear them using TC coming out of the corners.

So you got actual proof that the software was ever even turned on?

Or is your "evidence" just the word of one single witness claiming he heard a certain sound.

That lone witness happened to be dealing with an unproven, unofficial assassination attempt fueled by revenge at the time, plus he was under official investigation for physically lunging at Eddie Irvine—facing a potential 14-month suspension.

He never even saw that suspension come down, though, because he ended up dying after a messy accident in a Formula 1 race car.

I already laid it all out a month ago:

Upis prenosim u cijelosti:

Jason Campbell70 said:Is Valtteri Bottas actually any good when things don't go exactly according to plan? It seems like he struggles whenever the race isn't following a pre-written script.
Shifting conditions, unpredictable variables, and the pure need for raw driving skill... where on earth is Valtteri Bottas?

Bottas is formidable when the car is dialed in perfectly. When all the variables are accounted for? When everything goes exactly according to plan? That's when he's at his best.
Fortunately, that’s become a bit of a pattern for him at Mercedes-Benz over the last few seasons. He manages to push the car right to its absolute limit. Then, he gathers those points—and converts them into a win in exactly the same way. Every single time.

When it comes to pulling a rabbit out of a hat—whether it’s Hamilton's performance today, that move at Imola, or an overtake on a direct rival like he did at Monza last year—Bottas just doesn't have that gear.

New track, new conditions, and a mountain of unknown variables. Plus, there's no sign of Valtteri Bottas anywhere.
He couldn't manage to put together even one decent lap. It was just mistake after mistake. He looked like a complete rookie out there.

Then again, we know what George Russell brings to the table. He has this incredible knack for adapting to tracks and conditions he’s never even touched before. Isn't that exactly what you want? A driver who is truly elite when it comes to that single, high-pressure qualifying lap.
It’s clearly not just about him being an Englishman, despite what some of the local F1 "experts" on here seem to think.

Lewis Hamilton provides a sense of stability that you can feel even within the garage itself.
Everything seems to fall apart the moment he isn't there.

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ruggedhawk20 said:So you got actual proof that the software was ever even turned on?

Or is your "evidence" just the word of one single witness claiming he heard a certain sound.

That lone witness happened to be dealing with an unproven, unofficial assassination attempt fueled by revenge at the time, plus he was under official investigation for physically lunging at Eddie Irvine—facing a potential 14-month suspension.

He never even saw that suspension come down, though, because he ended up dying after a messy accident in a Formula 1 race car.

I don't have any proof. But honestly, looking back at how Schumacher acted during those years and the way Flavio Briatore operated... I can't rule out the possibility that things weren't exactly above board. It wasn't just Senna pointing fingers, either.

Look, let’s be real—Bottas's car isn't some influencer's vanity project; you can see the truth from any angle. This whole COVID situation just pulled back the curtain, because there's no way George Russell, who hasn't even scored a single point yet, suddenly became this fast.

whatever man

I said this a long time ago: anyone could be a champion if they were driving that Mercedes-Benz.

Bottas isn't getting the full performance of that car. I'll bet anything that Mercedes is doing this to him on purpose, and he can't say a word because he's being paid to look mediocre and keep his mouth shut.

Let's go, Russell. Let him grab that extra point, haha.

shadowmarlin22 said:The mental gymnastics being pulled by two moderators is unreal—just constantly shifting the narrative just to find ways to discredit Lewis Hamilton. Seriously. 🙏🙏🙏

Are we going to start listing all the championships won by Senna, Schumacher, or Prost where they didn't actually have the best race car?

You already got the list on the last page.

Fine, here it is again

Alain Prost 1986
Senna 1991
Michael Schumacher 1995

Titles won in cars that weren't the absolute best.

silverviper44 said:Look, let’s be real—Bottas's car isn't some influencer's vanity project; you can see the truth from any angle. This whole COVID situation just pulled back the curtain, because there's no way George Russell, who hasn't even scored a single point yet, suddenly became this fast.

whatever man

I said this a long time ago: anyone could be a champion if they were driving that Mercedes-Benz.

Bottas isn't getting the full performance of that car. I'll bet anything that Mercedes is doing this to him on purpose, and he can't say a word because he's being paid to look mediocre and keep his mouth shut.

👍They planned everything out perfectly and executed it to a T.
Oops, I just realized there was a typo in my previous post. Small stuff. An error occurred, maybe because of COVID.
He forgot to dial back the power on Lewis Hamilton's car.😵😵😵

Honestly, 2020 has been an absolute train wreck

ruggedhawk20 said:So you got actual proof that the software was ever even turned on?

Or is your "evidence" just the word of one single witness claiming he heard a certain sound.

That lone witness happened to be dealing with an unproven, unofficial assassination attempt fueled by revenge at the time, plus he was under official investigation for physically lunging at Eddie Irvine—facing a potential 14-month suspension.

He never even saw that suspension come down, though, because he ended up dying after a messy accident in a Formula 1 race car.

If it looks like junk and smells like junk—well, there's a pretty good chance it actually is junk! — I learned that the hard way when my old Ford broke down in the middle of nowhere last summer. 😁

If you look at the other two guys who are way less prepared for Formula 1 than George Russell, you'll see Emerson Fittipaldi is only 0.4 seconds off the Sauber pace, and the Aton driver is just 0.5 seconds behind Nicholas Latifi's time, assuming we're talking about Free Practice 2. If you factor in Bottas's deleted best lap, George Russell is only ahead of Valtteri Bottas by 0.2 seconds. From that angle, it's obvious we can't get a real sense of the actual story from such a short run.

Plus, if you check out the mini sectors:

It wasn't exactly Bottas's cleanest outing; the Finn kept running wide and had a bunch of laps tossed out for clipping the track limits, which cost him the lead. He ended up stuck way down in 11th, even though his teammate Russell looked great. But looking at the data, if he'd actually managed one clean lap with all those peak mini sectors, he could have been a massive 1.123s faster, which would've put him comfortably at the top.

The only thing I truly respect about Lewis Hamilton is the sheer level of authority he commands within the team. If he were actually out on the track tonight, we certainly wouldn't be witnessing this absolute disaster with the tire degradation...

bluepuma9 said:I don't have any proof. But honestly, looking back at how Schumacher acted during those years and the way Flavio Briatore operated... I can't rule out the possibility that things weren't exactly above board. It wasn't just Senna pointing fingers, either.

What does someone's attitude have to do with anything?

You could basically accuse anyone of financial fraud or, I don't know, being a predator just because they're annoying to deal with. We don't have a single shred of evidence against you—just like you don't have anything on Michael Schumacher.

It's the exact same flawed logic! You're just accusing someone because you don't like them.

wiredfalcon2 said:If you look at the other two guys who are way less prepared for Formula 1 than George Russell, you'll see Emerson Fittipaldi is only 0.4 seconds off the Sauber pace, and the Aton driver is just 0.5 seconds behind Nicholas Latifi's time, assuming we're talking about Free Practice 2. If you factor in Bottas's deleted best lap, George Russell is only ahead of Valtteri Bottas by 0.2 seconds. From that angle, it's obvious we can't get a real sense of the actual story from such a short run.

Plus, if you check out the mini sectors:

It wasn't exactly Bottas's cleanest outing; the Finn kept running wide and had a bunch of laps tossed out for clipping the track limits, which cost him the lead. He ended up stuck way down in 11th, even though his teammate Russell looked great. But looking at the data, if he'd actually managed one clean lap with all those peak mini sectors, he could have been a massive 1.123s faster, which would've put him comfortably at the top.

I suppose I could have been a Formula 1 driver myself...
What remains undeniably apparent is that any driver placed in a Mercedes-Benz would likely find themselves at the very top of the standings. If there was ever a moment of ambiguity regarding that fact, I believe it has now become perfectly clear to everyone.