Law Abiding Citizen (2009)

Donna Williams4 said:How exactly would you have wrapped it up differently?

Honestly, I’ve never really sat around thinking about how I’d end that movie. So, yeah... can't really give you an answer to that one.

Donna Williams4 said:How exactly would you have wrapped it up differently?

Personally, I’d want him to wipe them all out—that’s how it should have ended if we're talking justice. Imagine the absolute chaos in the city, the sheer terror, the news media churning out total garbage, and citizens just completely losing their minds while our government institutions look totally useless and incompetent. We just need to come up with something better than that whole prison break setup... maybe he could have had an old contact helping him out along the way. 🙂

Donna Williams4 said:I’m not sure how fair that actually is, but let's move past that. What do you think happens to Clyde at the very end?

Maybe after he finishes his business, he joins his wife and daughter in one big, beautiful, romantic final explosion... complete with an epic parting speech...

The movie is great right up until they discover the tunnel. After that, it just loses its momentum.

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Jonas Cantrell: Give us the breakdown. Was Clyde Shelton actually a spy? Bray : look, spies are everywhere. I’m a spy. Clyde is the brains—more like a one-man think tank. His whole thing was low-impact kinetic operations. Nick Rice: That's a pretty elaborate way of saying he's a killer. Bray : look, we take lives. This guy found a way to do it without ever stepping foot in the same room as his target. It was his specialty, and honestly, he was peerless. I remember one mission where we were dealing with a particularly slippery target. We went all out—using cruise missiles, Predator drones, even leveled his entire estate with a B-2 Bomber and JDAMs. We burned through millions in munitions and still couldn't touch him. So, we called Clyde Shelton. He engineered this high-tech ratchet made of carbon fiber and Kevlar thread, then tucked it right into a necktie. Two Days later , mrs bad Guy comes home , finds mr. bad Guy dead on the bathroom floor, strangled. My point is this: assume he can see and hear every single move you make. Nick Rice: Not a chance. He’s behind bars in a maximum-security prison now. Bray : look — He’s sitting in a cell because that’s exactly where he wants to be. The guy is a natural strategist. Nothing he does is accidental. You really think killing that cellmate was just some random outburst? Not a chance. It was just clearing a pawn off the board. If I were in your shoes, I’d be watching for his next move. Anybody Who Had anything to do with that case should probably start looking over their shoulder. Nick Rice: So what's the verdict? Are you telling me he's unstoppable? Bray : look. You walk right into his cell and put a bullet in his head. Other than that? There isn’t much you can do to stop him. If Clyde wants you dead, you’re dead.

That dialogue perfectly captures Clyde Shelton. If they had just changed the ending so he actually followed through on everything he said...

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Clyde Shelton: I’m going to tear the whole thing down. I’m going to bring this entire diseased, corrupt institution crashing down on your heads. It’s going to be biblical.

The movie would have been fantastic. As it stands, it’s decent enough until you hit that ending. What a shame. Honestly, I think I would have been satisfied even if it had just ended without an explanation of how they took everyone out.

velvetskipper47 said:Maybe after he finishes his business, he joins his wife and daughter in one big, beautiful, romantic final explosion... complete with an epic parting speech...

John Peterson3 said:The movie is great right up until they discover the tunnel. After that, it just loses its momentum.

Quote : Donna Williams4

Jonas Cantrell: Give us the breakdown. Was Clyde Shelton actually a spy? Bray : look, spies are everywhere. I’m a spy. Clyde is the brains—more like a one-man think tank. His whole thing was low-impact kinetic operations. Nick Rice: That's a pretty elaborate way of saying he's a killer. Bray : look, we take lives. This guy found a way to do it without ever stepping foot in the same room as his target. It was his specialty, and honestly, he was peerless. I remember one mission where we were dealing with a particularly slippery target. We went all out—using cruise missiles, Predator drones, even leveled his entire estate with a B-2 Bomber and JDAMs. We burned through millions in munitions and still couldn't touch him. So, we called Clyde Shelton. He engineered this high-tech ratchet made of carbon fiber and Kevlar thread, then tucked it right into a necktie. Two Days later , mrs bad Guy comes home , finds mr. bad Guy dead on the bathroom floor, strangled. My point is this: assume he can see and hear every single move you make. Nick Rice: Not a chance. He’s behind bars in a maximum-security prison now. Bray : look — He’s sitting in a cell because that’s exactly where he wants to be. The guy is a natural strategist. Nothing he does is accidental. You really think killing that cellmate was just some random outburst? Not a chance. It was just clearing a pawn off the board. If I were in your shoes, I’d be watching for his next move. Anybody Who Had anything to do with that case should probably start looking over their shoulder. Nick Rice: So what's the verdict? Are you telling me he's unstoppable? Bray : look. You walk right into his cell and put a bullet in his head. Other than that? There isn’t much you can do to stop him. If Clyde wants you dead, you’re dead.

That dialogue perfectly captures Clyde Shelton. If they had just changed the ending so he actually followed through on everything he said...

Quote : Donna Williams4

Clyde Shelton: I’m going to tear the whole thing down. I’m going to bring this entire diseased, corrupt institution crashing down on your heads. It’s going to be biblical.

The movie would have been fantastic. As it stands, it’s decent enough until you hit that ending. What a shame. Honestly, I think I would have been satisfied even if it had just ended without an explanation of how they took everyone out.

I am in complete agreement with you 😁

However, if the film had concluded with nothing but death and a successful killing spree, wouldn't it have lacked "depth" for some viewers? Or perhaps it would have been considered garbage by others? It seems to me the screenwriter intended to create something profound and "instructive" with that twist—trying to show how revenge ultimately yields nothing 🤷! But honestly? He missed the mark entirely!

I honestly expected Butler to pull off one last massive stunt to wrap things up. I don't know, maybe blow up a federal courthouse or something similar, while Fox tries to track him down. And then, once he realizes they're closing in, Butler just goes out in a blaze of glory.

Aside from "2012," this was probably one of the worst movies I've sat through in the last five or six years. It’s honestly so bad that if someone tries to tell me they liked it, I might just delete their number and stop texting them altogether. I guess Foxx really showed in this one that he isn't much of an actor, regardless of his Oscar or anything else he's done. To me, he didn't seem like a pro; maybe he was just a lucky guy who happened to land a role that thousands of other talented Black actors could have played better.

0/10

Donna Williams4 said:Now, I have to disagree—The Italian Job was actually quite entertaining. While it might not be a masterpiece of cinematic quality, I must admit I thoroughly enjoyed myself during those 111 minutes.😁

The "Italian job" was pretty terrible, but I guess you could call this latest mess a total "razjariti bik." It’s honestly wild to me how audiences swallow stuff like this nowadays, turning these movies into multi-million dollar windfalls for producers. I think "Law Abiding Citizen" is a perfect example of how any movie can be pushed through a multiplex if the marketing is strong enough. You just grab two big-name actors, put together a decent trailer, and scribble a plot on some scraps of paper for them to act out. It feels like things have become somewhat morbidly stupid lately.

Jessica Gonzalez said:Aside from "2012," this was probably one of the worst movies I've sat through in the last five or six years. It’s honestly so bad that if someone tries to tell me they liked it, I might just delete their number and stop texting them altogether. I guess Foxx really showed in this one that he isn't much of an actor, regardless of his Oscar or anything else he's done. To me, he didn't seem like a pro; maybe he was just a lucky guy who happened to land a role that thousands of other talented Black actors could have played better.

0/10

Hey, hey now! Let's not go that far! It isn't quite bad enough to warrant a zero!

Maybe take a breath and try to actually enjoy yourself instead of focusing solely on every single flaw in a film.

I won't even dignify that racist comment with a response...

Jessica Gonzalez said:The "Italian job" was pretty terrible, but I guess you could call this latest mess a total "razjariti bik." It’s honestly wild to me how audiences swallow stuff like this nowadays, turning these movies into multi-million dollar windfalls for producers. I think "Law Abiding Citizen" is a perfect example of how any movie can be pushed through a multiplex if the marketing is strong enough. You just grab two big-name actors, put together a decent trailer, and scribble a plot on some scraps of paper for them to act out. It feels like things have become somewhat morbidly stupid lately.

The "Italian job" is, as I mentioned, low quality, yet still entertaining—much like most of Hollywood... personally, I don't mind if a film is made purely for profit and lacks substance, provided it remains entertaining; I'll still watch it...

After all, isn't entertainment the whole point of movies?

Donna Williams4 said:Hey, hey now! Let's not go that far! It isn't quite bad enough to warrant a zero!

Maybe take a breath and try to actually enjoy yourself instead of focusing solely on every single flaw in a film.

I won't even dignify that racist comment with a response...

The "Italian job" is, as I mentioned, low quality, yet still entertaining—much like most of Hollywood... personally, I don't mind if a film is made purely for profit and lacks substance, provided it remains entertaining; I'll still watch it...

After all, isn't entertainment the whole point of movies?

I certainly agree with that sentiment, but I don't find much enjoyment in being intellectually assaulted for ninety minutes straight by a film like this one.

Keith Wood3 said:I certainly agree with that sentiment, but I don't find much enjoyment in being intellectually assaulted for ninety minutes straight by a film like this one.

You might have felt like it was an intellectual assault—but for me? It was pure entertainment. 😁

Well, to each their own, I suppose.

Jessica Gonzalez said:Aside from "2012," this was probably one of the worst movies I've sat through in the last five or six years. It’s honestly so bad that if someone tries to tell me they liked it, I might just delete their number and stop texting them altogether. I guess Foxx really showed in this one that he isn't much of an actor, regardless of his Oscar or anything else he's done. To me, he didn't seem like a pro; maybe he was just a lucky guy who happened to land a role that thousands of other talented Black actors could have played better.

0/10

haha 😁
Man, you are harsh... though I can't say I disagree. The movie was brain-dead. The only difference is I'm going to take a swing at Gerry.
Gerard Butler is basically the male version of Kim Kardashian or Paris Hilton.
A total Nobody and an attention whore who would be much better off going back to practicing law because acting clearly isn't his calling.
I watched this right when it came out and it was such a struggle to get through... just endless, painful clichés and tired tropes.

Jessica Gonzalez said:Aside from "2012," this was probably one of the worst movies I've sat through in the last five or six years. It’s honestly so bad that if someone tries to tell me they liked it, I might just delete their number and stop texting them altogether. I guess Foxx really showed in this one that he isn't much of an actor, regardless of his Oscar or anything else he's done. To me, he didn't seem like a pro; maybe he was just a lucky guy who happened to land a role that thousands of other talented Black actors could have played better.

0/10

neonorca4 said:haha 😁
Man, you are harsh... though I can't say I disagree. The movie was brain-dead. The only difference is I'm going to take a swing at Gerry.
Gerard Butler is basically the male version of Kim Kardashian or Paris Hilton.
A total Nobody and an attention whore who would be much better off going back to practicing law because acting clearly isn't his calling.
I watched this right when it came out and it was such a struggle to get through... just endless, painful clichés and tired tropes.

haha, how can you guys hate it this much?
Giving it a 0/10 is way too generous for such nonsense...
Can someone please recommend something actually good—maybe an 8/10—that I can watch over and over again? 😁
And saying he's the male version of Kim or Paris? Please, he's definitely not that type...