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Where did the thread about Sanders's unemployment benefits go? :zubo:

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Tyler Grant76 Tyler Grant76 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Since last night, there’s been zero discussion about how Sanders gets to collect a full salary for six months after resigning, or those taxpayer-funded bodyguards, his office, or the whole mess with freezing and unfreezing his seat in Congress. Looks like the thread was just deleted—not moved or merged with anything else. Why on earth would they do that? And does anyone actually know who pulled the trigger? 😁

For instance, look at this over here

First off, I'm curious about the legal side of things because, well, a) Sanders resigned without giving any reason. So, under labor laws—regardless of whatever specific laws govern members of Congress—I don't think he's entitled to any compensation (though I guess I'm open to being corrected by someone smarter than me). Secondly, this is the second time Sanders has put his Congressional mandate on hold, even though you're only supposed to be allowed to do that once.
The topic definitely has legs, especially given how we always see the law suddenly changing overnight 😍 😬, and it provides a chance to discuss the legacy of our former President.
Maybe some intellectual wants to argue that we shouldn't talk about pending court cases or something like that, but that doesn't fly here since Sanders isn't even on trial yet. Or maybe there's just some other valid 😍 excuse to protect the reputation of a runner?

Thanks in advance for the input 🙂
Tyler Grant76 Tyler Grant76 Active MemberOP
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joined May 2009
#2 ·
Good morning, 😍

Looks like some moderator wiped out (merged it?) another thread regarding Sanders's unemployment benefits.

So, we aren't allowed to discuss Sanders's potentially illegal—and definitely unethical—actions on this site? Why is that? I mean, can a topic not even last twelve hours before some lackey comes along to clean things up? It’s been 24 hours since you deleted the first one, so... maybe you could explain the reasoning? 😁 😘
Ronald Allen Ronald Allen Active Member
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#3 ·
Good evening to you, too.

Look, I wiped your thread, along with a few others—not just on the main news board, but across the whole Politics section. You probably don't see why, but...

On the main board, there’s already a massive thread: Sanders resigned as Prime Minister and party leader. It’s sitting at 3,739 posts and 126,510 views right now (as of July 10, 10:20 PM). So, my take—and I'm pretty sure the rest of the mod team agrees—is that this single thread should be the one place we break down every move made by former Prime Minister Ivo Sanders and all the fallout from it. I mean, come on, it’s not smart to start a brand new thread every time Sanders sneezes, or whenever Kosor claims she's going to cut benefits and slash pensions. Especially not when some current minister, acting under this whole "save the citizens of the USA through intimidation" vibe, starts taking radical cost-cutting measures or spouting nonsense.

To make things actually work and keep discussions somewhat sane, maybe we can do this: let's open one more thread specifically for the facts and reasons behind the current Government's actions following Ivo Sanders's resignation. We'll pin that one to the top, alongside the existing big thread mentioned above. Honestly, the immediate drama will blow over pretty fast anyway, while the actual consequences are going to stick around longer, so we can just see how things play out for the country and here on Reddit later on.

So, I'm asking everyone posting in the Politics section to weigh in on this idea. Maybe we can actually find a middle ground that works for everyone.
Tyler Grant76 Tyler Grant76 Active MemberOP
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joined May 2009
#4 ·
You're joking, right? 😁 😁 If you felt there was too much chatter about the fugitive, and that we didn't need another thread, you could have just moved the posts over to the thread about Sanders's resignation. Instead, you just hard-deleted two topics in two days without saying a word. And honestly, I haven't even touched either of those threads—you know that—so it would be nice if you didn't act all high and mighty in your intro like they were mine. I think I've left maybe one single post over there, and it was just regarding the fact that Congress is questioning the legality of Sanders's current status.

Anyway, whether it's due to laziness, ignorance, or just what the moderator intended, the big Sanders thread is once again cluttered with partisan nonsense and various conspiracy theorists. Because of that, a separate topic discussing how a former Prime Minister is currently exploiting legal loopholes to score himself representative status, a paycheck, an office, and bodyguards actually deserves its own space. I mean, speculation is one thing, but these are concrete, provable, and current situations, isn't it?
We could even expand this thread and ask ourselves how Congress in America can vote to allow one representative to do something while denying another the exact same procedure, citing the same law 😬 As far as I'm concerned, the topic could be titled "Must the US Congress follow the law?"

To be honest, I don't get your proposal about those two top topics. I really don't see why they should be opened, at least for now. What's wrong with a thread about whether Sanders's mandate is legal and ethical? What's wrong with a discussion on how some representatives can activate their mandates while others can't? Why shouldn't we talk about how the current Congressional majority is insulting every American citizen, while simultaneously picking their pockets to pay for the former Prime Minister's perks? The relationship between Sanders and the new Government definitely deserves its own topic, in fact 👍

Come on, try explaining one more time why you deleted TWO topics—not moved them, not closed them, but deleted them—just so people couldn't read about how Sanders treats America and its citizens, his own voters? Every news outlet has covered this story, every radio station, every TV channel. It's only on this forum that it's "too much talk" about Sanders. Daaaaaaaaj 🤣

Edit: If Sanders ends up running for President, will we be allowed to write about everything he did as Prime Minister—the scandals and the lies during his time in office—or will that be considered off-topic? 😬 Just wondering.

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