2009 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne (Central Park)

Unbelievable. I honestly can't decide who’s more clueless, Vettel or Robert Kubica. 😢

There are two massive issues here:

1. I have to give credit to Lewis Hamilton🙏—seriously, what a drive in that absolute junk heap of a car. The craziest part is he could’ve easily walked away with the Australian Grand Prix win if they hadn't stripped his points over those diffuser issues, especially since there were two BGP cars and a Toyota right in front of him.😉

2. Am I losing my mind, or are there some weird new rules regarding the Pace Car?😵 The second the Pace Car hit the track,Vettel was leading the race,while Button was stuck in the pits.😕 Then, after being a full lap down, Button has to wait for everyone to let him pass just so he can get ahead of Vettel and line up behind the Pace Car.😕 I genuinely don't get this.😕 Vettel was leading right behind the Pace Car, and then almost a lap later, the Pace Car just lets him pass? Something feels seriously off there.😕

Bottom line, despite all the chaos, it’s great to see the Red Bull RB5 is insanely fast.🙏 If they had used a slightly smarter strategy—like an easy opening stint on soft tires for about 10 laps—Vettel would have cruised to victory. Instead, we got screwed by terrible strategy and some massive, massive stupidity from both Vettel and Robert Kubica.😢

Ronald Palmer63 said:"he used KERS to overtake" — that just shows how bitter and jealous you are

And what did the Brown team actually do? They should have lost that race to BMW with a car that was borderline illegal, and Ferrari looked ridiculous since they had KERS too. So, how bad is Alonso? 6th or 7th? Wow, that’s definitely going to be his season high this year

Sweetie, it would be nice if you addressed me as a woman☕maybe try doing a little research once in a while☕

Brawn has a legal car, and it’s not anyone else's fault that it bothers you so much☕As long as they can drive like that, it's fine. Besides, every other team is just going to build those diffusers now since there's zero chance they'll be declared illegal☕

And yeah, I'm clearly just bitter and jealous... seriously, go splash some cold water on your face and chill out. Nobody said Alonso is going to drive better, and you can't possibly know that after just one race. Then again, even Hamilton didn't pull off anything massive there—he's known to have much better races than that

Amy Vaughn12 said:Does anyone happen to know how much Brawn actually paid for Honda?

A buck🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂

stormybadger8 said:Unbelievable. I honestly can't decide who’s more clueless, Vettel or Robert Kubica. 😢

There are two massive issues here:

1. I have to give credit to Lewis Hamilton🙏—seriously, what a drive in that absolute junk heap of a car. The craziest part is he could’ve easily walked away with the Australian Grand Prix win if they hadn't stripped his points over those diffuser issues, especially since there were two BGP cars and a Toyota right in front of him.😉

2. Am I losing my mind, or are there some weird new rules regarding the Pace Car?😵 The second the Pace Car hit the track,Vettel was leading the race,while Button was stuck in the pits.😕 Then, after being a full lap down, Button has to wait for everyone to let him pass just so he can get ahead of Vettel and line up behind the Pace Car.😕 I genuinely don't get this.😕 Vettel was leading right behind the Pace Car, and then almost a lap later, the Pace Car just lets him pass? Something feels seriously off there.😕

Bottom line, despite all the chaos, it’s great to see the Red Bull RB5 is insanely fast.🙏 If they had used a slightly smarter strategy—like an easy opening stint on soft tires for about 10 laps—Vettel would have cruised to victory. Instead, we got screwed by terrible strategy and some massive, massive stupidity from both Vettel and Robert Kubica.😢

I think the deal is that from now on, you have to wait for whichever driver was in the lead the split second before the Pace Car came out🤷and in this case, that was Button.
tbf, I feel bad for Vettel though.😁

driftingbison4 said:How many times has Robert Kubica dealt with bad luck like this? And honestly, it’s rarely even his fault when things go south.
As of today, I am officially done with Sebastian Vettel. This isn't his first screw-up, but this is the first time he’s actually blocked a legendary driver from proving you can win even without a Kinetic Energy Recovery System or some questionable diffuser setup.

What an absolute joke...

You've got some serious issues.🙄

Robert Kubica clearly has the faster car and was forcing the gap, closing in 🙄 and clipping Vettel, who moved out of the way (though if he were smarter, he should have braked). But honestly, Bernie Ecclestone is the one most to blame for this mess.☕

Total nightmare timing for this race. You could bet money that neither driver saw a damn thing through that incredibly annoying Sun. It was driving me crazy, so imagine what it was like for them.🙄

To hell with America and those early morning starts. I hate having to drag myself out of bed at 6 or 7 AM.🙄

These softer tires are an absolute disaster and a total safety hazard.🙄

All in all, just a complete joke...👎

Christian Williams61 said:I think the deal is that from now on, you have to wait for whichever driver was in the lead the split second before the Pace Car came out🤷and in this case, that was Button.
tbf, I feel bad for Vettel though.😁

That's how it looks to me too, but honestly, the rule is just plain stupid.🙄

stormybadger8 said:You've got some serious issues.🙄

Robert Kubica clearly has the faster car and was forcing the gap, closing in 🙄 and clipping Vettel, who moved out of the way (though if he were smarter, he should have braked). But honestly, Bernie Ecclestone is the one most to blame for this mess.☕

Total nightmare timing for this race. You could bet money that neither driver saw a damn thing through that incredibly annoying Sun. It was driving me crazy, so imagine what it was like for them.🙄

To hell with America and those early morning starts. I hate having to drag myself out of bed at 6 or 7 AM.🙄

These softer tires are an absolute disaster and a total safety hazard.🙄

All in all, just a complete joke...👎

Yeah, Kubica definitely hit Vettel.



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Honestly, I think they're both at fault here... though I still have a ton of respect for both Sebastian Vettel and Robert Kubica as drivers, so I guess I'll let them off the hook this time 🤷 The Sun is the real culprit 😬

I'm pretty annoyed with Kimi Räikkönen though 🙂 If he starts complaining again, I'm going to lose it because this isn't working 😳

Nando is driving a total junker again, so 😢

Bradley Nelson2 said:Yeah, Kubica definitely hit Vettel.



🙄

Send the video, not this.🙄 Where on earth was Sebastian Vettel even looking? He should’ve just put it in reverse or something. My god, Robert Kubica was running a full second faster per lap. He could have overtaken him anywhere. Instead, he just sits there like an idiot, locking up under braking. Honestly, he should have just let him pass and given him a little nod like, "Oh, please, go ahead, you absolute legend."

Anyway, those are my favorite drivers.
Say what you want about Vettel, Robert Kubica, and Nick Heidfeld—you can talk all you want, but in my book, they’re all equally to blame.☕ Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked at all if both of them end up getting slapped with a penalty at the next race.😢

Ronald Palmer63 said:Lewis Hamilton 4. Seriously, hats off to him. He just proved he’s the GOAT!

Too bad about those two idiots, but they basically did it to themselves.

I'm not quite sure where you saw him doing anything particularly special today, because from where I was sitting, it looked more like a perfect storm of lucky breaks than actual skill...

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cosmicridge5 said:Honestly, I think they're both at fault here... though I still have a ton of respect for both Sebastian Vettel and Robert Kubica as drivers, so I guess I'll let them off the hook this time 🤷 The Sun is the real culprit 😬

I'm pretty annoyed with Kimi Räikkönen though 🙂 If he starts complaining again, I'm going to lose it because this isn't working 😳

Nando is driving a total junker again, so 😢

😂😂

Fernando's car is absolute trash☕at least that's how it looks so far. I don't get how people were saying the Renault was the 5th fastest car if Force India has been ahead of him for a while now?😵👎
poor Fernando😢

Rebecca Thomas5 Asks:
I have no clue where you saw him doing anything special today. It was just a lucky break.

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It wasn't actually that bad, but honestly? The worst part is knowing he’s up first again in two weeks.🙄

So, did anyone actually figure out what happened? Did Mass lose his mind and bail on Ferrari, or did he just take a shortcut and get disqualified? 🤣

stormybadger8 said:Send the video, not this.🙄 Where on earth was Sebastian Vettel even looking? He should’ve just put it in reverse or something. My god, Robert Kubica was running a full second faster per lap. He could have overtaken him anywhere. Instead, he just sits there like an idiot, locking up under braking. Honestly, he should have just let him pass and given him a little nod like, "Oh, please, go ahead, you absolute legend."

Anyway, those are my favorite drivers.
Say what you want about Vettel, Robert Kubica, and Nick Heidfeld—you can talk all you want, but in my book, they’re all equally to blame.☕ Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked at all if both of them end up getting slapped with a penalty at the next race.😢

What kind of argument is "he could have overtaken him anywhere"? If Vettel pulled stunts like that at every turn, what then? You overtake when you're actually faster. And what was Vettel supposed to do? Hold his position, since second place was already gone anyway. Besides, he admitted he messed up, so I don't see the point in all these forum lawyers defending him.☕

Sebastian Vettel and Robert Kubica are both at fault here, each in their own particular way,
Vettel was clearly the slower driver and he really SHOULD have just let Robert Kubica past so he could go out there and rack up a mountain of points
as for Kubica, he probably should have just aimed for that wide sweeping turn to make his move instead of trying to force his way through right here

stormybadger8 said:You've got some serious issues.🙄

Robert Kubica clearly has the faster car and was forcing the gap, closing in 🙄 and clipping Vettel, who moved out of the way (though if he were smarter, he should have braked). But honestly, Bernie Ecclestone is the one most to blame for this mess.☕

Total nightmare timing for this race. You could bet money that neither driver saw a damn thing through that incredibly annoying Sun. It was driving me crazy, so imagine what it was like for them.🙄

To hell with America and those early morning starts. I hate having to drag myself out of bed at 6 or 7 AM.🙄

These softer tires are an absolute disaster and a total safety hazard.🙄

All in all, just a complete joke...👎

Look, regardless of how much you root for Vettel, you have to admit the kid made a massive blunder. He saw that Robert Kubica was significantly faster and was going to blow past him. It was only a matter of time before it happened in that corner or the next, so risking a podium like that was just reckless. Oh well, hopefully he learns from it.

The Ferrari drivers are both idiots. 😍

Congrats to Brawn, Jarno Trulli, and Lewis Hamilton. 👍

Christian Williams61 said:😂😂

Fernando's car is absolute trash☕at least that's how it looks so far. I don't get how people were saying the Renault was the 5th fastest car if Force India has been ahead of him for a while now?😵👎
poor Fernando😢

I wouldn't go that far. Fernando was just desperate today, and honestly, the Renault wasn't much better. Piqet was actually scoring points—somewhere around 5th or 6th—before things went sideways, so I really have no clue what on earth happened with him today.😕

Zachary Thompson2 said:Look, regardless of how much you root for Vettel, you have to admit the kid made a massive blunder. He saw that Robert Kubica was significantly faster and was going to blow past him. It was only a matter of time before it happened in that corner or the next, so risking a podium like that was just reckless. Oh well, hopefully he learns from it.

The Ferrari drivers are both idiots. 😍

Congrats to Brawn, Jarno Trulli, and Lewis Hamilton. 👍

I’m with you. I’m not saying he isn't at fault, but Kubica shares the blame too. Why dive in like that when you've got a significantly faster car? It's not like he thought the guy would just magically vanish. Of course he was going to fight for the spot. They're both on the hook for this one.

I honestly don't get how you people can even focus on a computer screen while the race is actually going on...

Sebastian Vettel could have braked sooner—he has to realize he can't just keep Kujica three laps behind him. Claiming he couldn't dive onto the grass isn't an excuse, and honestly, Kujica should have waited for a better opening instead of forcing a move and leaving Vettel zero room...

My current standings:

1. Brawn GP (flawless performance, aside from losing a bit of time on the soft tires)
2. Toyota (can't find any real flaws; both compounds work well, they just messed up with that useless rear wing and got disqualified for no reason)
2. Red Bull (solid pace, slightly behind Brawn, but struggling big time on the soft compound)
3. BMW (no major issues, but they lack the raw speed to match Brawn or Red Bull right now)
4. Williams (struggling with the soft tire, so a top finish seems unlikely) / Ferrari (started high up because they ran light in qualifying, but they look significantly slower than they did during winter testing)
5. McLaren/Renault/STR/Force India

The gaps aren't clear because of all the Safety car periods, but I don't think I'm far off.

stormybadger8 said:Send the video, not this.🙄 Where on earth was Sebastian Vettel even looking? He should’ve just put it in reverse or something. My god, Robert Kubica was running a full second faster per lap. He could have overtaken him anywhere. Instead, he just sits there like an idiot, locking up under braking. Honestly, he should have just let him pass and given him a little nod like, "Oh, please, go ahead, you absolute legend."

Anyway, those are my favorite drivers.
Say what you want about Vettel, Robert Kubica, and Nick Heidfeld—you can talk all you want, but in my book, they’re all equally to blame.☕ Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked at all if both of them end up getting slapped with a penalty at the next race.😢

it was nothing more than a racing incident, both of them were just seeing red at the time