Moderator changes: A constructive proposal to improve forum quality

Kenneth Peterson5 said:It isn't about shadows. Adura and Dervish (from Musliman.hr) haven't just rejected certain social norms because they happen to dislike them—that’s not quite right. Rather, they have refused to adopt the specific set of behavioral standards that you and rowdyhawk10 are pushing. These standards seem to directly conflict with the level of tolerance required for users who hold worldviews fundamentally different from yours two.

Aganor is, much like Phoenix—a total gem.
Aganor is, much like Phoenix, a highly educated individual—someone whose body of work is so advanced that it’s hardly surprising both have been sidelined by a mediocre environment. It isn't really about how they react to certain situations in a vacuum; rather, people tend to focus on the specific, highly articulate way they choose to express those reactions.
Their works are quite extensive—in any case, they are pieces that I find myself reading with genuine pleasure.

Ultimately, since you aren't showing any actual tolerance for intelligence anymore—instead choosing to judge everyone solely based on those occasional emotional outbursts, which are clearly the minority—you really should have consulted with the Philosophy moderators first. They would have almost certainly sided against it, preferring to only consider banning someone from the Religion section instead. Because, in case you weren't aware, Aganor is a constant, welcome fixture over in the Philosophy section.

Finally, regarding this supposed lack of culture, self-control, or basic empathy for others—I’d just like to point out how one of your fellow moderators recently "branded" a group of users on Reddit as terrorists. In my opinion, that is a far more egregious offense than anything Aganor ever did, which is exactly why he was permanently banned.

Nicole James said:If we are talking about those extremist ideologies claiming that a woman is unfaithful simply because she marries outside of her faith—or the twisted logic suggesting it’s permissible to kill someone who converts from Islam—then there is absolutely zero room for tolerance. I am truly sorry for what happened.

Aganor is, much like Phoenix—a total gem.
Aganor is, much like Phoenix, a highly educated individual—someone whose body of work is so advanced that it’s hardly surprising both have been sidelined by a mediocre environment. It isn't really about how they react to certain situations in a vacuum; rather, people tend to focus on the specific, highly articulate way they choose to express those reactions.
Their works are quite extensive—in any case, they are pieces that I find myself reading with genuine pleasure.

Ultimately, since you aren't showing any actual tolerance for intelligence anymore—instead choosing to judge everyone solely based on those occasional emotional outbursts, which are clearly the minority—you really should have consulted with the Philosophy moderators first. They would have almost certainly sided against it, preferring to only consider banning someone from the Religion section instead. Because, in case you weren't aware, Aganor is a constant, welcome fixture over in the Philosophy section.

Why should they be any different? There are fundamental rules of cultural dialogue that apply to everyone—period. If the vast majority of people on this Reddit can manage to follow them, then there’s absolutely no reason why they shouldn't have to do the same. When an average user gets caught up in a moment of emotional turbulence and lashes out at someone else, they get a warning, and that's that. But when that kind of instability happens repeatedly—to the point where someone hits a thousand points—then we can safely conclude that either the individual isn't mentally sound, or they simply don't give a damn.

Finally, regarding this supposed lack of culture, self-control, or basic empathy for others—I’d just like to point out how one of your fellow moderators recently "branded" a group of users on Reddit as terrorists. In my opinion, that is a far more egregious offense than anything Aganor ever did, which is exactly why he was permanently banned.

Hey, so, after he went ahead and claimed that it’s actually okay to kill someone just because they decide to change their religion...

Nicole James said:If we are talking about those extremist ideologies claiming that a woman is unfaithful simply because she marries outside of her faith—or the twisted logic suggesting it’s permissible to kill someone who converts from Islam—then there is absolutely zero room for tolerance. I am truly sorry for what happened.

Aganor is, much like Phoenix—a total gem.
Aganor is, much like Phoenix, a highly educated individual—someone whose body of work is so advanced that it’s hardly surprising both have been sidelined by a mediocre environment. It isn't really about how they react to certain situations in a vacuum; rather, people tend to focus on the specific, highly articulate way they choose to express those reactions.
Their works are quite extensive—in any case, they are pieces that I find myself reading with genuine pleasure.

Ultimately, since you aren't showing any actual tolerance for intelligence anymore—instead choosing to judge everyone solely based on those occasional emotional outbursts, which are clearly the minority—you really should have consulted with the Philosophy moderators first. They would have almost certainly sided against it, preferring to only consider banning someone from the Religion section instead. Because, in case you weren't aware, Aganor is a constant, welcome fixture over in the Philosophy section.

Why should they be any different? There are fundamental rules of cultural dialogue that apply to everyone—period. If the vast majority of people on this Reddit can manage to follow them, then there’s absolutely no reason why they shouldn't have to do the same. When an average user gets caught up in a moment of emotional turbulence and lashes out at someone else, they get a warning, and that's that. But when that kind of instability happens repeatedly—to the point where someone hits a thousand points—then we can safely conclude that either the individual isn't mentally sound, or they simply don't give a damn.

Finally, regarding this supposed lack of culture, self-control, or basic empathy for others—I’d just like to point out how one of your fellow moderators recently "branded" a group of users on Reddit as terrorists. In my opinion, that is a far more egregious offense than anything Aganor ever did, which is exactly why he was permanently banned.

Hey, so, after he went ahead and claimed that it’s actually okay to kill someone just because they decide to change their religion...

Nicole James said:If we are talking about those extremist ideologies claiming that a woman is unfaithful simply because she marries outside of her faith—or the twisted logic suggesting it’s permissible to kill someone who converts from Islam—then there is absolutely zero room for tolerance. I am truly sorry for what happened.

Aganor is, much like Phoenix—a total gem.
Aganor is, much like Phoenix, a highly educated individual—someone whose body of work is so advanced that it’s hardly surprising both have been sidelined by a mediocre environment. It isn't really about how they react to certain situations in a vacuum; rather, people tend to focus on the specific, highly articulate way they choose to express those reactions.
Their works are quite extensive—in any case, they are pieces that I find myself reading with genuine pleasure.

Ultimately, since you aren't showing any actual tolerance for intelligence anymore—instead choosing to judge everyone solely based on those occasional emotional outbursts, which are clearly the minority—you really should have consulted with the Philosophy moderators first. They would have almost certainly sided against it, preferring to only consider banning someone from the Religion section instead. Because, in case you weren't aware, Aganor is a constant, welcome fixture over in the Philosophy section.

Why should they be any different? There are fundamental rules of cultural dialogue that apply to everyone—period. If the vast majority of people on this Reddit can manage to follow them, then there’s absolutely no reason why they shouldn't have to do the same. When an average user gets caught up in a moment of emotional turbulence and lashes out at someone else, they get a warning, and that's that. But when that kind of instability happens repeatedly—to the point where someone hits a thousand points—then we can safely conclude that either the individual isn't mentally sound, or they simply don't give a damn.

Finally, regarding this supposed lack of culture, self-control, or basic empathy for others—I’d just like to point out how one of your fellow moderators recently "branded" a group of users on Reddit as terrorists. In my opinion, that is a far more egregious offense than anything Aganor ever did, which is exactly why he was permanently banned.

Hey, so, after he went ahead and claimed that it’s actually okay to kill someone just because they decide to change their religion...

Sophia Gonzalez66 said:Interesting suggestion, but if you’re asking me, I’d tweak things a bit...

I’d stretch the mod rotation period to at least 6 months instead of 3... because like someone else already mentioned on this thread, it would just be pure chaos. Every single sub-forum would just be stuck in a loop of voting for mods. Then, right when everyone finally picks someone and those threads get cleared out, we'd be back to square one with a new election. 3 months feels way too short—it’ll fly by before you even know what hit you. And obviously, if a newly elected mod turns out to be useless, there should be a way to pull them and move to the runner-up or whatever...

...I also still think giving regular users 100% control over the whole site is a bad move. Like someone else pointed out here, people usually just vote for whoever they hang out with most in that specific section or the person who posts the most. That doesn't mean they actually know their stuff or provide the best answers. In my opinion, after the vote is in, the admins and senior mods should review everything. They should check the user's post history to make sure they actually know what they're talking about before making the final call...

...My idea? We do a massive sweep at the start. Put all current mods to a vote to see who stays and who goes. Meanwhile, we'd have to block mods from sending PMs to prevent them from swaying votes. I’d be down to coordinate that with Kenneth Peterson5

...Just my two cents, though. Not trying to start anything or take sides...

crimsonhound80 said:Kenneth Peterson5, I’ve been following your posts for a few days now because you’re actually an interesting person to read, but there is something I’m struggling to wrap my head around;

if you’re standing so firmly by your stance on intelligence in your "recent" posts—and look, I get where you're coming from—do you honestly think it’s okay for an intelligent, engaging, witty person, someone who is generally well-liked by the moderators and the rest of the community here, to snap at an "average" user and tell them to "eat shit monkey retarded" or scream some profanity about their mother's stupidity in a fit of rage? (Which, let's be honest, is sometimes hard to distinguish from just being a jerk)

Look, I get humor. I get sarcasm and all those other stylistic flourishes, and I even understand being pissed off—trust me, I’ve never handed out a ban myself—but when someone repeats the same insult five times in a row, like Cp.Tar or that guy using the alias steelskipper5, then I lose my cool, and yeah, I have to issue a strike.

Honestly, I think you would be incredibly strict—maybe even tougher than any of the moderators on this American forum—but God hasn't given you the chance yet, so don't feel bad about it.

Believe me, this is a hell of a job, and it's not something just anyone can handle—not because of a lack of intelligence, but because of what's... well, "missing" in a healthy brain.😉

crimsonhound80 said:Kenneth Peterson5, I’ve been following your posts for a few days now because you’re actually an interesting person to read, but there is something I’m struggling to wrap my head around;

if you’re standing so firmly by your stance on intelligence in your "recent" posts—and look, I get where you're coming from—do you honestly think it’s okay for an intelligent, engaging, witty person, someone who is generally well-liked by the moderators and the rest of the community here, to snap at an "average" user and tell them to "eat shit monkey retarded" or scream some profanity about their mother's stupidity in a fit of rage? (Which, let's be honest, is sometimes hard to distinguish from just being a jerk)

Look, I get humor. I get sarcasm and all those other stylistic flourishes, and I even understand being pissed off—trust me, I’ve never handed out a ban myself—but when someone repeats the same insult five times in a row, like Cp.Tar or that guy using the alias steelskipper5, then I lose my cool, and yeah, I have to issue a strike.

Honestly, I think you would be incredibly strict—maybe even tougher than any of the moderators on this American forum—but God hasn't given you the chance yet, so don't feel bad about it.

Believe me, this is a hell of a job, and it's not something just anyone can handle—not because of a lack of intelligence, but because of what's... well, "missing" in a healthy brain.😉

crimsonhound80 said:Kenneth Peterson5, I’ve been following your posts for a few days now because you’re actually an interesting person to read, but there is something I’m struggling to wrap my head around;

if you’re standing so firmly by your stance on intelligence in your "recent" posts—and look, I get where you're coming from—do you honestly think it’s okay for an intelligent, engaging, witty person, someone who is generally well-liked by the moderators and the rest of the community here, to snap at an "average" user and tell them to "eat shit monkey retarded" or scream some profanity about their mother's stupidity in a fit of rage? (Which, let's be honest, is sometimes hard to distinguish from just being a jerk)

Look, I get humor. I get sarcasm and all those other stylistic flourishes, and I even understand being pissed off—trust me, I’ve never handed out a ban myself—but when someone repeats the same insult five times in a row, like Cp.Tar or that guy using the alias steelskipper5, then I lose my cool, and yeah, I have to issue a strike.

Honestly, I think you would be incredibly strict—maybe even tougher than any of the moderators on this American forum—but God hasn't given you the chance yet, so don't feel bad about it.

Believe me, this is a hell of a job, and it's not something just anyone can handle—not because of a lack of intelligence, but because of what's... well, "missing" in a healthy brain.😉

crimsonhound80 said:Kenneth Peterson5, I’ve been following your posts for a few days now because you’re actually an interesting person to read, but there is something I’m struggling to wrap my head around;

if you’re standing so firmly by your stance on intelligence in your "recent" posts—and look, I get where you're coming from—do you honestly think it’s okay for an intelligent, engaging, witty person, someone who is generally well-liked by the moderators and the rest of the community here, to snap at an "average" user and tell them to "eat shit monkey retarded" or scream some profanity about their mother's stupidity in a fit of rage? (Which, let's be honest, is sometimes hard to distinguish from just being a jerk)

Look, I get humor. I get sarcasm and all those other stylistic flourishes, and I even understand being pissed off—trust me, I’ve never handed out a ban myself—but when someone repeats the same insult five times in a row, like Cp.Tar or that guy using the alias steelskipper5, then I lose my cool, and yeah, I have to issue a strike.

Honestly, I think you would be incredibly strict—maybe even tougher than any of the moderators on this American forum—but God hasn't given you the chance yet, so don't feel bad about it.

Believe me, this is a hell of a job, and it's not something just anyone can handle—not because of a lack of intelligence, but because of what's... well, "missing" in a healthy brain.😉

Sophia Gonzalez66 said:Interesting suggestion, but if you’re asking me, I’d tweak things a bit...

I’d stretch the mod rotation period to at least 6 months instead of 3... because like someone else already mentioned on this thread, it would just be pure chaos. Every single sub-forum would just be stuck in a loop of voting for mods. Then, right when everyone finally picks someone and those threads get cleared out, we'd be back to square one with a new election. 3 months feels way too short—it’ll fly by before you even know what hit you. And obviously, if a newly elected mod turns out to be useless, there should be a way to pull them and move to the runner-up or whatever...

...I also still think giving regular users 100% control over the whole site is a bad move. Like someone else pointed out here, people usually just vote for whoever they hang out with most in that specific section or the person who posts the most. That doesn't mean they actually know their stuff or provide the best answers. In my opinion, after the vote is in, the admins and senior mods should review everything. They should check the user's post history to make sure they actually know what they're talking about before making the final call...

...My idea? We do a massive sweep at the start. Put all current mods to a vote to see who stays and who goes. Meanwhile, we'd have to block mods from sending PMs to prevent them from swaying votes. I’d be down to coordinate that with Kenneth Peterson5

...Just my two cents, though. Not trying to start anything or take sides...

crimsonhound80 said:Kenneth Peterson5, I’ve been following your posts for a few days now because you’re actually an interesting person to read, but there is something I’m struggling to wrap my head around;

if you’re standing so firmly by your stance on intelligence in your "recent" posts—and look, I get where you're coming from—do you honestly think it’s okay for an intelligent, engaging, witty person, someone who is generally well-liked by the moderators and the rest of the community here, to snap at an "average" user and tell them to "eat shit monkey retarded" or scream some profanity about their mother's stupidity in a fit of rage? (Which, let's be honest, is sometimes hard to distinguish from just being a jerk)

Look, I get humor. I get sarcasm and all those other stylistic flourishes, and I even understand being pissed off—trust me, I’ve never handed out a ban myself—but when someone repeats the same insult five times in a row, like Cp.Tar or that guy using the alias steelskipper5, then I lose my cool, and yeah, I have to issue a strike.

Honestly, I think you would be incredibly strict—maybe even tougher than any of the moderators on this American forum—but God hasn't given you the chance yet, so don't feel bad about it.

Believe me, this is a hell of a job, and it's not something just anyone can handle—not because of a lack of intelligence, but because of what's... well, "missing" in a healthy brain.😉

Kenneth Peterson5 said:The whole mess upstairs is laid out perfectly in the Nicole James complaint and grievance thread.
You guys just twist the words written in the holy books however you want—basically just bending them to fit whatever narrative suits you best at the moment.

Every coin's got two sides, you know? But you—it’s like you can only see your own side—the shiny one.

I'd love to see a link that actually backs up that claim above.

Honestly, watching from the sidelines, it’s just depressing how being above average intelligence gets treated like absolute bottom-tier trash—but also, man, the way people get banned? It's ridiculous. So much of it feels totally pointless, either because someone clearly didn't grasp what was actually written or they're just throwing out a ban hammer because they can't handle a different opinion. It's exhausting.

rowdyhawk10 said:Fair enough. Now I suppose we should see if you provide links for your own claims as well. 🙄

Just passing through, I guess. 😉

Kenneth Peterson5 said:Ultimately, regarding the lack of class, self-control, or just basic empathy—I’d just remind everyone how your fellow moderator recently "branded" a group of users on Reddit as terrorists, which, in my book, is a much worse offense than anything Aganor did before getting permanently banned.

crimsonhound80 said:Right; the whole thing could just be called "enjoy yourselves, you monkeys."

So, what you're saying is everyone on the forum should just drop everything to focus on electing and re-electing moderators!?

Oh, please. 🤣

If you actually know something about a specific topic, then go find a sub-forum where you can actually be useful and help someone out—don't just sit here wasting everyone's time.

😵

Kenneth Peterson5 said:🙄

I really didn't want to drag your embarrassment over to this thread too, but since you're being so insistent...

How adorable 😉

rowdyhawk10 calls a group of four users terrorists

User Adura fires back

rowdyhawk10 just replies and repeats the same thing

Black and white cloning and responding to slander

Kenneth Peterson5 said:🙄

I really didn't want to drag your embarrassment over to this thread too, but since you're being so insistent...

How adorable 😉

rowdyhawk10 calls a group of four users terrorists

User Adura fires back

rowdyhawk10 just replies and repeats the same thing

Black and white cloning and responding to slander