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Why hasn't a movie about... ever been made?

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Jessica Nguyen85 Jessica Nguyen85 Active Member
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#21 ·
David Price5 said:What about marriage counseling, like in The Simpsons?

😬

Those shows aren't actually mocking anything... they're more like a way to glorify and validate things.
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#22 ·
Jessica Nguyen85 said:😬

Those shows aren't actually mocking anything... they're more like a way to glorify and validate things.

I'm not so sure. I've never viewed those two shows as celebrations of the American way of life. To me, they felt much more like satire, especially Married... Life. The issue with Married... was really just the inconsistent quality of certain episodes. The same applies to something like The Colbert Report...
Joseph Lee3 Joseph Lee3 Active Member
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#23 ·
Nah, I disagree. David Price5 actually has a point here. Shows like Married... with Children, The Simpsons, South Park, or Cow and Chicken—they’re all essentially biting satires of pop culture.

The crucial thing is that these shows are born directly from the environments they’re mocking. Alan Ford, on the other hand, offers an outsider's perspective looking in. I honestly don't think an American production could ever capture that specific, raw authenticity. That particular vein of humor feels much more aligned with British sensibilities. (If they were going to turn that comic into a movie, it probably should have been a UK production to begin with.)

I think that subtle distinction—which might seem trivial at first glance—is exactly what would determine whether or not you actually capture the soul of the comic. Americans would likely just end up making a hollow remake, and wouldn't even be making a film, because the actual essence just isn't there to be found.
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#24 ·
It isn't all about production value. We might actually pull off a great series given our history with that comic strip... It's clear there's plenty of funding available for streaming shows nowadays. Is it really that much to ask for a comedy series featuring the TNT crew?
Robert Richardson3 Robert Richardson3 Member
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#25 ·
I have this nagging feeling it was actually a stage play—it felt like vila Matula was basically an Alan Ford production, though I can't quite recall if the rest of the cast was
still in my memory.
bluebison8 bluebison8 Active Member
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#26 ·
I have this vague memory from my childhood of seeing the Alan Ford play. I can’t recall all the details, but I distinctly remember Number 1 lifting up a cart at the very end. It was quite an entertaining show. 😁
Joseph Lee3 Joseph Lee3 Active Member
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#27 ·
My memory isn't exactly crystal clear, but I definitely recall Number 1 hoisting himself out of that cart at the end, which was a hell of a way to wrap things up.

😂 I can't quite pin down if it was Jeremiah or Number 1 who muttered, "I don't give a damn about any of this, or anything else for that matter." 😁
placidsailor14 placidsailor14 Newcomer
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#28 ·
about Zdravko Mamić
northerncrane4 northerncrane4 Regular
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#29 ·
I’m asking the thread starter to make a call—do we want this to be specifically about why they haven't made an Alan Ford movie, or should it just be a free-for-all where anyone can vent about a topic or character that hasn't hit the big screen yet?
Sophia Scott5 Sophia Scott5 Member
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#30 ·
Jessica Nguyen85 said:There was some talk about this idea... people were even suggesting certain casting options for 😳

A few theories floating around here..

First off, it seems like the main conflict for the strip is its lack of success in the States. But honestly, I don't see how a comic that basically lays bare all the grit and glamour of American society—mocking its core pillars, no less—would ever fly there. Who would even market that as entertainment? Alan Ford worked because it was anti-American back when that was actually risky. I shouldn't have to explain that logic. - edited: I'm with Ljelja drugi

Second, let's not forget that if AF succeeded here, the heavy lifting was done by Nenad Brixy. He wasn't just a translator; if you compare the Italian and American editions, he added a layer of depth to the whole vibe through sheer consistency.

Third, the closest thing to a movie I can think of is Welcome to Collingwood—even some guy from Cleveland mentioned that in an IMDb comment. But we all know it’s not quite right. Superhik isn't just an anti-hero... he's the antithesis of the American comic book landscape. He exists specifically to puncture the superhero mythos that dominates US comics. Besides, who wouldn't look at number one recently and see Greenspan, the head of the Federal Reserve? There's nothing particularly entertaining about that.

Yeah, I’m with you on that one. It definitely played a huge part in making Alan Ford such a massive hit over here.

Jessica Nguyen85 said:There was some talk about this idea... people were even suggesting certain casting options for 😳

A few theories floating around here..

First off, it seems like the main conflict for the strip is its lack of success in the States. But honestly, I don't see how a comic that basically lays bare all the grit and glamour of American society—mocking its core pillars, no less—would ever fly there. Who would even market that as entertainment? Alan Ford worked because it was anti-American back when that was actually risky. I shouldn't have to explain that logic. - edited: I'm with Ljelja drugi

Second, let's not forget that if AF succeeded here, the heavy lifting was done by Nenad Brixy. He wasn't just a translator; if you compare the Italian and American editions, he added a layer of depth to the whole vibe through sheer consistency.

Third, the closest thing to a movie I can think of is Welcome to Collingwood—even some guy from Cleveland mentioned that in an IMDb comment. But we all know it’s not quite right. Superhik isn't just an anti-hero... he's the antithesis of the American comic book landscape. He exists specifically to puncture the superhero mythos that dominates US comics. Besides, who wouldn't look at number one recently and see Greenspan, the head of the Federal Reserve? There's nothing particularly entertaining about that.

Hell yeah!
Roger Garcia3 Roger Garcia3 Newcomer
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#31 ·
And if they were so capable, why didn't the Italians just film it themselves?
They already did a screen adaptation of Tex, so what's stopping them from tackling Alan Ford?
bluebison8 bluebison8 Active Member
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#32 ·
I suppose we'll have to shoot an email over to the creator of Alan Ford and ask him directly.
Who? 😁
Patrick Smith44 Patrick Smith44 Member
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#33 ·
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bluebison8 says:
I guess we'll never know unless we just email the creator of Alan Ford directly and ask him.
Who knows? 😁>
Is Secchi even still with us?

If not, when did he pass away?!
feralorca82 feralorca82 Active Member
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#34 ·
Who says Zagor has never been filmed? There’s actually a Turkish version 🤣
. The same goes for d. Dog (Italian) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109592/
. Btw, there are tons of those Turkish adaptations out there 😂.
Bradley Price44 Bradley Price44 Newcomer
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#35 ·
says:
Actually, Zagor and Chico aren't bad concepts at all. Just imagine if Tarantino got his hands on them...

Here is an American take on Zagor:

Zagor - poglavica bez pleme

last year's winner of the zlatan motorka!
bluebison8 bluebison8 Active Member
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#36 ·
Bradley Price44 said:
says:
Actually, Zagor and Chico aren't bad concepts at all. Just imagine if Tarantino got his hands on them...

Here is an American take on Zagor:

Zagor - poglavica bez pleme

last year's winner of the zlatan motorka!

Jesus, this is awful. 😢

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