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The "intrusions" that defined the film

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Participants Jerry Martin19Kate Torressteelmarlin3Samuel Smith5Carol LewisJoseph Lee3redowl90Scott Garcia20Henry Campbell5Larry Martin11wearytinker8Paul Wright18Carol King13John Peterson3cosmicraven2David Price5Anthony Jackson50Carol Roberts59Richard Wilson4driftingeagle27lonelynx44crimsontrucker4
John Peterson3 John Peterson3 Active Member
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#61 ·
redowl90 said:Hold on just a second—someone stop the world!

Am I reading this right? Are we actually labeling Showtime and Flawless as low points in De Niro's career? That’s blasphemy, for goodness' sake! Pure blasphemy!
I'm sitting here watching Showtime on local TV right now (probably my third time seeing it), and let me tell you, that movie is FUN. Seriously, it's one of the best movies you could pick if you just want to relax and have a good time.

Then there's Flawless, where you have De Niro playing a regular guy who's dealing with some heavy stuff alongside Philip Seymour Hoffman (😍). It's a combination that's hard to mess up, especially with a director involved. Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating about the directing part, but the fact remains: it's probably Schumacher's best work in the last 15 years (aside from A Time to Kill).

If Uwe Boll were behind the camera, even the world's top acting elite couldn't save the movie...
Kate Torres Kate Torres Member
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#62 ·
Joseph Lee3 said:If you look closely, Autumn Sonata feels like it was practically drafted using the same blueprints as Interiors. It’s not quite a case of Woody Allen simply ripping off Bergman, especially considering both films hit theaters around the same time—actually, Interiors managed to make its debut about two months before Autumn Sonata even premiered. Still, the parallels are impossible to ignore, particularly in how both movies dissect that deep, unsettling sense of alienation between mothers and their daughters.

The fundamental divide really comes down to realism; you get this profound, layered depth in the work of Ingmar Bergman, whereas Woody Allen's version feels almost entirely hollow by comparison. It’s as if Woody Allen took that heavy, brooding atmosphere characteristic of Bergman's style and simply grafted it onto his own universe, yet he failed to capture that vital spark of humanity found in Bergman's films—that underlying sense of equilibrium that persists even when things turn bleak. You just don't see that kind of balance in Interiors. Colin Jacobson

Finally got around to watching it. And yeah, the tone is incredibly dark—it's almost identical to Autumn Sonata. Good catch there. He basically stripped away elements from two different films here. Autumn Sonata i Scream and SaputanjeHonestly, I’m just wondering why it was such a massive disappointment. 🤷
Anthony Jackson50 Anthony Jackson50 Member
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#63 ·
Now this is an interesting topic! It’s one of those subjects that's been pretty much forgotten lately, so it’s great to see it being brought back to life.
I’ll throw out a couple of examples for the group:
- Brian De Palma: I've already mentioned Mission to Mars (total Sci-Fi flop—honestly, probably his absolute worst) and Wise Guys (a crime comedy that I actually find quite charming, even if the critics mostly tore it apart).
- Walter Hill: Brewster's Millions (his only real foray into comedy, and honestly, it's one of my favorite movies from the 80s, though I don't see people giving it much credit).
Carol Roberts59 Carol Roberts59 Newcomer
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#64 ·
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Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#65 ·
You see them most in Dune, especially with Picard and Sting...
Or maybe I'm just totally off base since this is strictly about directors...
driftingeagle27 driftingeagle27 Active Member
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#66 ·
Honestly, I’m pretty curious about this whole Herzog "new phase" thing—you know, him pivoting to making English-language films, or rather, American movies based on other people's scripts. We'll see how it plays out, though; at his age, it's hard to imagine a guy like him making such a bad call 🙂. He's always been bold, I guess.

My absolute favorite "outlier" has to be Raime's A Simple Plan. It's wild when you think about it—a guy known for (tongue-in-cheek) horror delivering one of the best dramas of the decade. It's just beautiful, subtle filmmaking. Next thing you know - Spiderman 😁.

As for Scorsese, most of his stuff feels like an outlier to me. Truth be told, I'm not really a fan. He kind of sits in this limbo, neither here nor there—stuck somewhere between pure arthouse and hardcore Hollywood for pretty much his entire career. Don't get me wrong, he isn't a bad director, and I've got nothing but respect for two of his pieces: ...Christ, which is total arthouse and hits hard, and No Direction Home, which is easily one of the better documentaries out there, maybe even the best rockumentary ever made.
driftingeagle27 driftingeagle27 Active Member
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#67 ·
Anthony Jackson50 said:Now this is an interesting topic! It’s one of those subjects that's been pretty much forgotten lately, so it’s great to see it being brought back to life.
I’ll throw out a couple of examples for the group:
- Brian De Palma: I've already mentioned Mission to Mars (total Sci-Fi flop—honestly, probably his absolute worst) and Wise Guys (a crime comedy that I actually find quite charming, even if the critics mostly tore it apart).
- Walter Hill: Brewster's Millions (his only real foray into comedy, and honestly, it's one of my favorite movies from the 80s, though I don't see people giving it much credit).

I was just sitting here thinking about this whole topic, though honestly, it’s not even really a hot take for me.

Anyway, I actually liked that movie on a human level, and if we're being real, it's easily my favorite Brian De Palma flick.🙂.
lonelynx44 lonelynx44 Member
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#68 ·
heh..... Tarantino and Death Proof.... lacks the blood and it's just a bad movie...... 🙂 even if it captures a bit of his usual vibe, it's still an absolute flop in my book! 🙂

and yeah.... Cameron Diaz in Being John Malkovich! 😁 she’s way too good in that one—total powerhouse—even though I can't stand her otherwise..... such an atypical role and a great flick, so, a positive flop... 😉 oh, and uhm, I actually liked her in My Sister's Keeper too... could be considered a bit of an outlier for her, but that first one is definitely the bigger outlier! 🙂
crimsontrucker4 crimsontrucker4 Member
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#69 ·
Larry Martin11 said:...well, I think we can all agree on this one 🙂 if you ask me, he’s easily the most powerhouse American actor from that younger—middle to high school age group—generation. > is right behind him, followed by this steady stream of "supporting" actors who are always top-tier (ranging from > and > as the slightly older guys, up to—guilty as charged—>)... but >? He just has this specific kind of genius. He’s truly something else 😍

Bread Pitt?

By the way, Titanic really stands out from the rest of Cameron's filmography.

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