wanderinghawk17 said:You guys missed this part...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum
Yum, preservatives...
Talk about naive... any biochemist can dig through a pile of junk and find something that shows a positive reaction in mice or some random bacteria. But whether that actually does anything for a human being? Well, that's a whole different ball game...
And nobody here has actually proven that. Not even the FDA managed to pin it down...
[edit] Regulatory warnings and safety testing in August 2004
In August 2004, the US food and drug Administration issued a warning letter to flora for violating section 201(g)(1) of the Federal food, drug, and Cosmetic Act (the Act) [21 U.S.C. § 321(g)(1)]. Flora made twelve unfounded health claims about the purported benefits of noni juice as a medical product, in effect causing the juice to be evaluated as a drug. Under The Act , this necessitates All safety and clinical trial evidence for The juice providing such effects in humans. [17]
The FDA letter also cited 1) absent scientific evidence for health benefits of noni phytochemicals, scopoletin and damnacanthal, neither of which has been confirmed with biological activity in humans, and 2) lack of scientific foundation for health claims made by two proponents of noni juice, Isabella Abbot and Ralph Heinicke[18].
Two other FDA letters have been issued for the same types of violations[19][20].
in The European union , after safety testing on One particular brand of noni juice ( Tahitian Noni, approval was granted in 2002 as a novel food by the European Commission for health and Consumer Protection Directorate-General. [21] In their report, the European Commission's Scientific Committee made no endorsement of health claims.
No noni products have achieved sufficient scientific foundation for being licensed as medicines or therapies. Companies today must still apply to The European Commission for health and Consumer Protection Directorate-General to have their own brand of noni juice included as a novel food under the initial approval.
[edit] health and research issues in 2005
In 2005, two scientific publications described incidents of acute hepatitis caused by ingesting noni. One study suggested the toxin to be anthraquinones, found in roots, leaves and fruit of the noni,[22] [23]while the other named juice as the delivery method.[24]
This was, however, followed by a publication [25] showing that noni juice 1) was not toxic to the liver even when consumed in high doses, and 2) contained low quantities of anthraquinones which are potentially toxic to liver tissue.[26].
The potential for toxicity caused by noni juices remains under surveillance by The European food Safety Authority (FDA)[27], individual food safety authorities in France[28], Finland[29] and Ireland[30], and medical investigators in Germany[31].
The Physicians Desk Reference for Non-Prescription Drugs and Dietary Supplements lists only one particular commercial brand of noni juice, with no side-effects mentioned.[32]Consumers of noni juice are advised to carefully check labels for warnings which may say, "Not safe for pregnant women" or "Keep out of reach of children."
Some commercial brands of noni juice can be high in potassium[citation needed]. While potassium is a valuable nutrient in a normal diet, persons with advanced kidney disease cannot excrete it properly and should avoid noni juice which has been known to cause hyperkalemia..[33]. Something else worth keeping in mind is how wildly different the mineral levels can be depending on which brand of Noni juice you pick up.[34]
If you're an athlete thinking about adding Noni juice to your routine, you might want to tread carefully. Two specific brands actually showed up on ConsumerLab.com's "Athletic Banned Substance Screening Program," where they test products against the prohibited substances listed in the World Anti-Doping Code.[35].
Oh my god, preservatives!🙄 I really wonder if you even pay attention to the preservatives in the food you eat!
And an argumentum ad hominem isn't an actual argument!🙄
I didn't insult you once, yet you felt the need to attack everyone who doesn't think like you. That says plenty about you...
Interestingly, you haven't refuted a single point I made.
I never wrote that it was a cure.
I emphasized that there are no clinical studies.
I warned about hepatotoxicity.
But Noni has shown effectiveness in vitro and in vivo (animal models). The only question is how promising someone finds that, and that's where we differ.
As for potassium—I don't see any danger there. That might be an issue for sick people, but not for healthy ones. By that logic, you could claim bananas, tomatoes, and leafy greens are dangerous because they contain huge amounts of potassium (my grandma won't eat them because of the potassium, but does that mean I shouldn't eat them?!).
