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The Bourne Ultimatum

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Kate Taylor2 Kate Taylor2 Member
23 messages
joined Apr 2007
#21 ·
This movie is decent enough. The plot hits the mark, and seeing a young Matt Damon is definitely 😎
. My only real gripe is when the action sequences move way too fast—you barely catch a glimpse of the shadow instead of actually feeling the impact of what's happening. it’s just too much frantic, jittery movement😵

Still... image is 😍
Edward Lewis6 Edward Lewis6 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2007
#22 ·
To me, the cinematography was just... off. I couldn't quite get into the visual style—it felt a bit disjointed for my taste—but man, the actual plot? Absolutely gripping! It’s a solid flick overall, despite those technical hiccups😁
urbanmoose3 urbanmoose3 Active Member
58 messages
joined Sep 2005
#23 ·
I have to say, I’m feeling pretty let down. 😢 In my opinion, the first one was significantly better.
Samuel Smith5 Samuel Smith5 Active Member
61 messages
joined Apr 2007
#24 ·
It’s your run-of-the-mill Hollywood blockbuster. The kind of flick you forget the second the credits start rolling. Honestly, the whole trilogy was a complete wash.
electricmaker69 electricmaker69 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Sep 2007
#25 ·
So, I finally went ahead and grabbed all three parts just so I could check them out myself...
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
95 messages
joined Aug 2007
#26 ·
I’m sitting there in the theater, somewhere in the fourth or fifth row from the screen, and the damn thing is massive—practically the size of a football field. Then the camera starts this constant, nauseating shaking, just swinging wildly through the room or following some hand passing a flashlight to someone else. Everything is blurry, then suddenly snaps into focus, then loses it again, and you can barely tell what’s actually happening on screen because the camera won't stop jittering. After about twenty minutes of this, I honestly felt like I was going to throw up, so I just grabbed my stuff, walked out, and went home... they seriously have no idea what they're doing!
Lisa Clark Lisa Clark Newcomer
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joined Sep 2007
#27 ·
The movie was alright... It’s got a cool concept and a decent cast—nothing too over-the-top with big Hollywood stars (not like something out of Ocean's Eleven, for instance)—but it definitely started leaning into that whole Bond vibe halfway through, you know? Just endless car crashes and explosions and all that stuff.
Overall rating: 5/10...
Thomas Green2 Thomas Green2 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Sep 2007
#28 ·
Man, I still really need to sit down and actually watch the sequel..... 😢
Carol Lewis Carol Lewis Active Member
222 messages
joined Oct 2008
#29 ·
All three movies really come together to form one incredible trilogy, the kind of thing I’ll honestly never get tired of revisiting... John Doe! 👍
Jeremy Flores4 Jeremy Flores4 Member
14 messages
joined Dec 2005
#30 ·
Hands down, this is the best action choreography I’ve seen in years.
Steven Spielberg knows his stuff.

The whole point of that camera work is to give you this gritty, documentary feel—like there's an actual sense of reality bleeding through. It feels like someone is just standing on the sidewalk filming the chaos with a handheld camcorder or a phone. That’s how it would actually look in real life. Honestly, the movie is several notches higher because of the cinematography alone. I’m actually thinking about giving it another watch.
Those days of Old Hollywood, where they’d just park a camera on a tripod and have actors walk in front of it, are long gone.

After meeting John Woo, who completely flipped the script on action movies by injecting them with actual artistry, now we've got Steven Spielberg pushing things in a totally different direction... toward realism.
That car chase scene? Absolutely insane.
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
95 messages
joined Aug 2007
#31 ·
Jeremy Flores4 said:Hands down, this is the best action choreography I’ve seen in years.
Steven Spielberg knows his stuff.

The whole point of that camera work is to give you this gritty, documentary feel—like there's an actual sense of reality bleeding through. It feels like someone is just standing on the sidewalk filming the chaos with a handheld camcorder or a phone. That’s how it would actually look in real life. Honestly, the movie is several notches higher because of the cinematography alone. I’m actually thinking about giving it another watch.
Those days of Old Hollywood, where they’d just park a camera on a tripod and have actors walk in front of it, are long gone.

After meeting John Woo, who completely flipped the script on action movies by injecting them with actual artistry, now we've got Steven Spielberg pushing things in a totally different direction... toward realism.
That car chase scene? Absolutely insane.


I highly doubt those "old Hollywood days where they just put a camera on a tripod" ever really ended, because for a lot of us, watching a movie like this is exhausting, stupid, and irritating—it gives people headaches and makes them want to puke.
The film is shot without any sense of restraint. Even when I watch actual documentaries, they don't shake like this. Even if you have a camera on your shoulder, the faces shouldn't be wobbling around like they're on some damn boat. You spend the whole movie praying to God that they'll just hold the damn camera still for a second so you can catch your breath—but NO CHANCE!
If this "realistic portrayal" goes overboard, it's pure shit to me, and that's why this movie is pure shit; I couldn't even finish it in the theater because I felt like throwing up. The excessive camera shaking is idiotic, unrealistic, pathetic, and honestly, it makes me sick of directors like this.
redwalker6 redwalker6 Member
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joined Jun 2007
#32 ·
Sarah Wood8 said:I highly doubt those "old Hollywood days where they just put a camera on a tripod" ever really ended, because for a lot of us, watching a movie like this is exhausting, stupid, and irritating—it gives people headaches and makes them want to puke.
The film is shot without any sense of restraint. Even when I watch actual documentaries, they don't shake like this. Even if you have a camera on your shoulder, the faces shouldn't be wobbling around like they're on some damn boat. You spend the whole movie praying to God that they'll just hold the damn camera still for a second so you can catch your breath—but NO CHANCE!
If this "realistic portrayal" goes overboard, it's pure shit to me, and that's why this movie is pure shit; I couldn't even finish it in the theater because I felt like throwing up. The excessive camera shaking is idiotic, unrealistic, pathetic, and honestly, it makes me sick of directors like this.

I agree with this completely.
Timothy Cox2 Timothy Cox2 Active Member
52 messages
joined Feb 2003
#33 ·
Does anyone remember which countries Jason Bourne traveled through while he was dealing with that memory loss? I have visions of Sicily and the Soviet Union swirling around in my head. Also, wasn't there some Russian guy he had some kind of deal with? Help me out here.
Jeremy Flores4 Jeremy Flores4 Member
14 messages
joined Dec 2005
#34 ·
I guess it just comes down to personal taste, right?
Personally, I didn't find the camera work nearly as shaky as everyone says, and honestly, I don't get the whole "makes me want to barf" complaint...
The movie is a bit—okay, let's be real, a lot—more of a heavy lift to sit through... nothing more than that.

If anyone actually thinks the camerawork is too much, they should go jump on YouTube and watch some amateur footage. That’s what real, unpolished filming looks like.
Eric Morris3 Eric Morris3 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2007
#35 ·
Sorry, but I can't compare some amateur YouTube clips to a multi-million dollar Hollywood production
I'm sick of those kinds of movies. When I go to the theater, I want to actually enjoy myself—to walk out feeling good, not totally drained and nursing a massive headache.
nimblemarlin6 nimblemarlin6 Active Member
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joined Aug 2012
#36 ·
Shaky cams, shots that flash by in the blink of an eye—you know the drill. Look, the action in Jason Bourne's ultimatum is actually top-tier, but it’s all wasted when these perfectly choreographed sequences get swallowed up by frantic cutting and a camera that won't sit still. Take that part where they shove Jason Bourne's car into an underpass wall. It's a fantastic crash, really, but you miss half the impact because the camera suddenly goes absolutely haywire. It’s as if they’re trying to simulate the physical shock of the collision—like the crash caused some kind of tectonic shift or something. But hey, we aren't sitting in the passenger seat! We’re watching this from fifty feet away! Even during basic dialogue scenes, everything feels unstable—it's like the camera is about to fly out the window or start buzzing around the chandelier like a confused fly. I mean, what’s the harm in just putting the camera on a tripod during a conversation so we can actually see the actors' faces?

I suppose filmmakers think this is some cutting-edge, music video meets commercial aesthetic that appeals to the younger crowd, or whatever... Truth is, plenty of people find it grating and complain about it, so maybe it'll eventually fade out. There's nothing wrong with a little movement or a quick cut here and there, but you have to actually show the audience what's happening. In my book, stylistic flourishes should be used sparingly, not as a crutch.
brighthawk brighthawk Newcomer
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joined Sep 2007
#37 ·
I’ve watched the first two installments, though I haven't gotten to the third one yet—planning to catch it sometime this week. I noticed the reviews here are all over the place, so I'm genuinely curious if it'll actually click for me. The first two were decent enough.
Jeremy Flores4 Jeremy Flores4 Member
14 messages
joined Dec 2005
#38 ·
Look, I get it. You can't exactly compare some amateur YouTube clip to a massive, multi-million dollar Hollywood blockbuster. It’s not even a fair fight.

But you don't have to—that's not what I meant. I was just trying to make a point.

When I go to the movies, I want to actually enjoy myself. I want to walk out of the theater feeling good, not totally drained and nursing a massive headache.

But hey, taste is subjective, right? Personally, I loved this thing. I walked out of the theater feeling great, totally satisfied with the experience. Honestly? I'm already planning to go see it again...

If you're looking for something easy to digest, stay far away from this one.
urbanseal9 urbanseal9 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2007
#39 ·
I have no idea who started claiming these movies were trash; if they had just stopped after the first one, we wouldn't be having this debate...

Most people probably know, but for those who don't, these films are based on the novels by Robert Ludlum, which were international bestsellers for years. We're talking about a trilogy here. Personally, I haven't seen anything better in that genre.

They introduced a fresh kind of protagonist—a cold-blooded killer who doesn't actually want the job. And honestly, I appreciate that there’s some gunfire and explosions without it devolving into mindless, non-stop action.

Look, the first film is the standout, the second isn't far behind, and I definitely expected more from the third. While the third is quite good, it still could have been handled better...
Grace Doyle Grace Doyle Member
42 messages
joined Aug 2007
#40 ·
I’m not one for hyperbole, but in my book, this is the definitive action trilogy🙏
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