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Voltaren: Pros and cons?

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Jessica Cook64 Jessica Cook64 Newcomer
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#21 ·
Walter Myers4 said:what's the name for that at the pharmacy?
personally, I find Voltaren works wonders—it just hits me a little too hard sometimes.😁

It’s called Naproxen. I have some sitting in my cabinet right now, but honestly, the tablets don't do a thing for me...
It is quite curious, though—I've never found any Voltaren pills to be effective, yet when I use the Voltaren gel, it actually manages to soothe my more intense migraine attacks. I haven't stumbled upon a logical explanation for why the topical version works while the oral one fails, but as long as it provides relief, I'll keep using 👍 whenever the pain becomes unbearable; at this point, a heart attack almost sounds like.......a reprieve.😁

Walter Myers4, as soon as I saw that article about Voltaren in the paper, you were the first person who came to mind.😘
Jessica Cook64 Jessica Cook64 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2006
#22 ·
Oh, right—I think someone mentioned Ketonal and Knavon earlier... if my memory serves, they belong to the same class as Voltaren, though I'm far from an expert when it comes to dissecting chemical compositions.

Knavon Forte works wonders for my period cramps. However, if it turns out to be just as harsh on the system as Voltaren 😕 then I won't be sticking around long enough... to keep rambling on this forum.😬
Walter Myers4 Walter Myers4 RegularOP
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#23 ·
Jessica Cook64 said:when the pain gets that bad, a heart attack almost sounds like... relief.😁

👍 🤣
Jamie Davis17 Jamie Davis17 Member
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joined Jan 2010
#24 ·
Knavon Forte is honestly my absolute lifesaver when I'm dealing with my period cramps. I was wondering, does anyone happen to know if this is actually just the same medication as Voltaren, maybe just manufactured by a different company?
Bradley Fisher20 Bradley Fisher20 Active Member
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joined May 2005
#25 ·
For anyone looking to dig a little deeper:

http://www.farmakologija.com/materia/m_nsar.htm
Walter Myers4 Walter Myers4 RegularOP
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joined May 2004
#26 ·
Bradley Fisher20 said:For those of you who actually want to know what's going on:

I can’t even deal with how much junk is out there regarding NSAIDs. Seriously, if you think you can just pop a few pills whenever your back acts up without knowing what they're actually doing to your system, you're asking for trouble. I learned that the hard way last summer when I tried to self-medicate a pulled muscle using whatever was in the cabinet, and let me tell you, my stomach felt like I’d swallowed a bag of hot coals. The science behind this stuff is heavy, but people treat it like candy. You've got your Diclofenac, your Voltaren, your Naproxen—these aren't just "painkillers." They are powerful chemicals that mess with your enzymes. Specifically, they go after COX-1 and COX-2. It sounds complicated, but basically, they block the signals that tell your body to feel pain, while also stripping away the protective lining of your stomach. That’s why people end up with ulcers! I've seen it happen to friends, too. It’s all about the balance, which most people completely ignore. Some drugs hit one enzyme more than the other, some hit both, and depending on which one you pick, you might be saving your stomach but absolutely wrecking your kidneys. It’s a gamble. Every time I see someone at the drugstore grabbing a massive bottle of Naproxen thinking they’re being smart, I just want to shake them. Read the labels. Understand the mechanism. Don't just blindly swallow whatever the most popular brand is. It’s your body, for crying out loud. Stop treating it like an afterthought.

Thanks, you're a lifesaver! 😁

I’m sick of people acting like there’s only one way to deal with this pain. Seriously. You’ve got Diclofenac, you’ve got Voltaren, then you’ve got Naproxen... and don't even get me started on that Naproxen duo everyone keeps buzzing about. It’s all right there! Why is everyone making it so complicated? Just take what works and move on. I've tried half these stuff already and honestly, some days it feels like I'm just spinning my wheels. It's exhausting.
That’s exactly what we need. 🙏 🙏

And another thing that’s just as important:

So many NSAIDs come in suppository form now. It’s not just some weird gimmick, either—it’s actually smart. By going this route, you're cutting down on all those nasty stomach issues, and you're doing a massive favor for your liver by protecting it from the usual side effects. Plus, the whole thing works better and lasts longer. Honestly, why would anyone stick to the old way if this works?
mistybison mistybison Regular
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#27 ·
Walter Myers4 said:diclofenac – Diclofenac, Voltaren, naproxen, naproxen duo
this is what works for us 🙏 🙏

I know this medication primarily as a treatment for rheumatism. 😕 My grandmother uses it occasionally for her back pain. Some people have suggested it to me for menstrual cramps, but it hasn't worked for me at all—I don't seem to have any response to it.
Walter Myers4 Walter Myers4 RegularOP
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#28 ·
Jessica Cook64 said:I mostly know that stuff as a remedy for arthritis. 😕 My grandma takes it once in a while when her back starts acting up. I’ve had people suggest it for period cramps before, too, but honestly? Total waste of time for me—it doesn't touch the pain at all.

Look, I was super skeptical about using it myself at first.
I used to just pop Excedrin for everything, especially whenever my head was pounding or my period hit.
Then, after some lady on a forum suggested I try Voltaren, man, what a game changer.
Not only does it kill the pain pretty fast (seriously, take it the second you feel those cramps starting), but it actually stops the spasms and—most importantly—really helps cut down the heavy bleeding.
It's my absolute go-to. I just take it twice a day for the first two days and I'm good. Meanwhile, that whole mess of ibuprofen, Tylenol, Advil, Aspirin, and every other painkiller out there? They barely touch the pain and just end up irritating my stomach.
Voltaren is strong, and yeah, it hits you hard, but damn, it actually works.
mistyhound2 mistyhound2 Active Member
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joined Feb 2004
#29 ·
Walter Myers4 said:Look, after this whole recent mess with Voltaren and those supposed side effects (heart attacks), I’m honestly at a loss. When I get period cramps, Voltaren gel is the only thing that actually works—it's a total lifesaver. And now everyone is coming at me with these horror stories about heart attacks.
Hey, what should I do?

Diclofenac and other NSAIDs work for menstrual cramps because they block prostaglandin synthesis, which is what causes that smooth muscle contraction in the uterus—basically stopping the pain at the source. Listen, I have yet to hear of anyone actually having a heart attack because of Voltaren or any other NSAID. Honestly, half the stuff people post online, I just don't buy; I trust what I see sitting right in front of me every single day. So, keep using it. 🙂 Not one single patient of mine has ever had a heart attack "from Voltaren." You need actual underlying issues for a heart attack to happen... and I won't even go there right now, it's a whole different conversation.🙂
Walter Myers4 Walter Myers4 RegularOP
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#30 ·
mistyhound2 said:Diclofenac and other NSAIDs work great for period cramps because they block prostaglandin synthesis—those things responsible for uterine muscle contractions and all that pain. Look, I haven't heard of anyone having a heart attack from using Voltaren or any other NSAID. Honestly, I don't buy half the stuff people post online; I trust what I see happening right in front of me every single day. So yeah, keep drinking it up.

they're just 😁
mistybison mistybison Regular
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joined Aug 2008
#31 ·
Walter Myers4 said:aside from the fact that it actually calms the pain quite quickly (which is why it’s smart to take it as soon as you feel cramps starting), it also helps with cramping and, most importantly, significantly reduces bleeding.

It doesn't have any effect on me. My stomach hurts just as much as if I hadn't taken anything at all. However, I know there are people for whom it does work.

I have to take it twice a day for the first two days and then I'm set. On the other hand, an entire dose of ibuprofen, acetaminophen, Advil, aspirin, and all those other painkillers only provides temporary relief while further irritating my system.

None of the options you mentioned help me in any way. 😁 But I find that classic analgesics—like Excedrin or Tylenol—actually do the trick for me.

Voltaren is strong, and it really hits you, but it definitely works.

I haven't had that experience. My grandmother has heart disease and issues with her blood pressure along with several other conditions, and they were constantly prescribing it to her, yet it never helped her back pain, so she eventually stopped taking it. I also know that Diclofenac injections can be dangerous; I personally know a few people who experienced severe inflammation at the injection site and faced various complications afterward. Therefore, I believe it is best to avoid them whenever possible.
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
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joined Jul 2007
#32 ·
Voltaren has come to my rescue more times than I can count... whereas for some people, it barely touches the pain and they find only Naproxen provides any real relief.
Jessica Cook64 Jessica Cook64 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2006
#33 ·
Can someone with actual expertise explain why the Voltaren patches actually work for me, while the pills—neither the Forte nor the Rapid versions—seem to do absolutely nothing? It’s almost as if they aren't even the same medication... which, logically speaking, feels like a bit of a stretch, doesn't it?!!?
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
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joined Jul 2007
#34 ·
lolit@ said:Can an expert explain why Voltaren topical patches work for me, but the pills don't? Neither the standard nor the extra strength versions seem to do anything... is it even the same medication?!!?

Well, the patches tend to act faster... at least in my experience. Even the extra strength tablets don't seem to touch the pain for me either...

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