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Rio Ferdinand on racism

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Participants Olivia Martinez20Sean Nguyen4boldhound8briskpuma23Emily Gonzalez82Chloe Palmer2crimsonfalcon12Thomas Hughes40rowdyotter27Walter Walker42amberorca192David Phillips4Bryan Jones82
Olivia Martinez20 Olivia Martinez20 MemberOP
37 messages
joined Jun 2006
#1 ·
Rio Ferdinand has gone on a public, aggressive tear regarding the utter failure of football authorities to actually combat racism—BBC link.

While he certainly isn't some paragon of virtue, one has to offer him a modicum of praise for having the sheer audacity to confront those in power using such blunt, unapologetic language.

Interestingly, the Spanish Minister of Sport just announced a sweeping new piece of legislation that would allow for stadium closures and massive fines—up to $550,000—specifically to crack down on racist outbursts.

What are your thoughts on the state of racism within American soccer?
Sean Nguyen4 Sean Nguyen4 Active Member
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joined Sep 2007
#2 ·
There aren't enough Black people here for racism to even really take root, which means there isn't anyone to direct it toward. So, I guess everything is fine. 😁
Olivia Martinez20 Olivia Martinez20 MemberOP
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joined Jun 2006
#3 ·
Sean Nguyen4 Olivia Martinez20 said:We have such a negligible Black population here that developing any real sense of racism is practically impossible, since there simply isn't anyone to direct it toward. Therefore, everything is perfectly fine. 😁

Your understanding of racism seems rather narrow, to be perfectly honest. 🙂

Beyond mere discrimination based on... The colors of a goat., Racism. Regarding racial discrimination, it is an absolute certainty.
Any form of distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on any grounds whatsoever remains strictly prohibited. Race remains one of those inescapable, deeply entrenched facets of the American experience that most people would much rather ignore, yet its presence is felt in every corner of our social fabric. It isn’t merely a topic for academic debate or occasional political posturing; it is an active, breathing force that shapes everything from individual identity to the very structural integrity of our institutions. One cannot simply observe the landscape of this country without acknowledging how these historical tensions continue to ripple through modern life, demanding attention even when it feels inconvenient to provide it., Color., The downward spiral is nothing short of inevitable at this point., or The concept of national or ethnic origin is often treated as a mere technicality in legal discussions, yet it remains one of the most fundamental pillars upon which our social fabric is built. It isn't just a box you check on a census form; it is the very essence of identity that shapes how an individual navigates the world and how society perceives them. When we discuss these distinctions, we aren't just talking about lines drawn on a map or ancestral lineages, but rather the profound impact of heritage on the human experience.

The International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination remains an essential pillar of our legal framework, standing as a definitive testament to the nation's commitment to upholding fundamental equality under the law., 1966
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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joined Oct 2007
#4 ·
I am so damn done with all this racism talk and just the whole topic of racism in general😉
briskpuma23 briskpuma23 Active Member
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joined Mar 2012
#5 ·
Even that doesn't go far enough.
We need to start punishing people for racism—specifically those shouting things like "Kill the cargo!" or "Kill Purger."
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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joined Oct 2007
#6 ·
briskpuma23 said:Even that doesn't cut it.
There's a massive Need to punish people for racism when they start screaming "Kill the cargo!" or "Kill Purger."

Smells like we're getting a new Attorney General👍

🙄
Emily Gonzalez82 Emily Gonzalez82 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2006
#7 ·
briskpuma23 said:Even that doesn't go far enough.
There's a real Need to penalize people for racism—specifically those shouting things like "Kill the cargo!" or "Kill Purger."

Mother Teresa, please—take it down a notch. 🙄
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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joined Oct 2007
#8 ·
Emily Gonzalez82 said:Mother Teresa, seriously, chill out with the drama. 🙄

But if we want this thing to actually work, here's the deal:
  • It’s either already baked into the law
  • or it’s in a bill, which basically means it's about to be law anyway.


🙄
Chloe Palmer2 Chloe Palmer2 Regular
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#9 ·
First off, when I say something like "that dumb Black guy scored twice on us," I’m not trying to be hateful about his race—it’s just how it comes out in the heat of the moment. If an Icelander scored, I’d probably mutter something about some "dumb blond" scoring, and if an Englishman did it, I'd likely call him a "total jerk" for ruining the game. It’s all just part of the intense atmosphere of being a fan, I guess. 😁

At the end of the day, my absolute favorite player is still Drogba, 🙏 🙏 🙏

P. S: Even if Englishmen can be total jerks, you have to admit it's true sometimes.
Olivia Martinez20 Olivia Martinez20 MemberOP
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joined Jun 2006
#10 ·
Chloe Palmer2 said:First off, when I tell someone "that stupid Black guy just scored two goals," I’m not actually trying to be derogatory about his race, I’m just stating a damn fact.

Pure, unadulterated stupidity! Tell me, do you suddenly start saying "that stupid white guy just scored two goals" every time a white player finds the back of the net? 😕 👎
briskpuma23 briskpuma23 Active Member
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#11 ·
Look, everyone—it’s honestly pathetic that we need actual laws to cover things that should have been taught at home, in school, or even at church. Things like not calling for murder or spreading hate. The fact that these outbursts of pure primitivism have to be regulated by law is a massive failure for American society as a whole. But since we're here, just read some of the blogs from kids in Washington, D.C., and what they say about donkeys—it's nothing short of pathological hatred. Remember that idiot Zidak who was quoting some acquaintance saying his idol was that pedophile from California "because he's been messing with kids since he was little"? Well, if this new law means people like those primitives and psychopaths actually end up in jail, then it's a good law.
Chloe Palmer2 Chloe Palmer2 Regular
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#12 ·
Synod said:It's pure nonsense. Would you really say, "some stupid white guy just scored two goals" every single time a white player scores? 😕 👎

Sometimes, I suppose. And then I might include a country-specific attribute. But honestly, the reality is that when a Black player scores, it’s much easier to get away with an insult. I don't see why I should have to justify myself now. 😁
crimsonfalcon12 crimsonfalcon12 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2006
#13 ·
I couldn't care less about racism or skin color.🤣

Just kidding, obviously... people are making way too much noise over this whole racism thing. I'm with Chloe Palmer2 on this one.
Thomas Hughes40 Thomas Hughes40 Newcomer
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#14 ·
People make way too much noise about racism, yet they don't make nearly enough when it actually matters. It’s easily the most disgusting way to attack someone's character and dignity. Look, I can wrap my head around rowdy hooligan groups—even if they act like total losers sometimes—but I just can't stand these pathetic little guys who start whining the second a Black player steps onto the pitch. Honestly, I’d love to see those types tossed into a federal penitentiary for a month; maybe after some real time behind bars, they'll learn how to act. A bunch of football hooligans is one thing, but these guys are just pathetic.
By the way, I heard Ferdinand is the most thick-headed player on the roster. If he's that bad, what does that say about you, Bed Blue Boys?
rowdyotter27 rowdyotter27 Newcomer
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#15 ·
Kudos to Ferdinand, I guess, but I don't see this going anywhere. Racism isn't just going to vanish from every corner of society overnight, is it?
Walter Walker42 Walter Walker42 Newcomer
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#16 ·
Thomas Hughes40 said:People make way too much noise about racism, yet they don't make nearly enough when it actually matters. It’s easily the most disgusting way to attack someone's character and dignity. Look, I can wrap my head around rowdy hooligan groups—even if they act like total losers sometimes—but I just can't stand these pathetic little guys who start whining the second a Black player steps onto the pitch. Honestly, I’d love to see those types tossed into a federal penitentiary for a month; maybe after some real time behind bars, they'll learn how to act. A bunch of football hooligans is one thing, but these guys are just pathetic.
By the way, I heard Ferdinand is the most thick-headed player on the roster. If he's that bad, what does that say about you, Bed Blue Boys?

So you'd build a Black-only prison? Real smooth, Mr. Racist.

Stupid thread, what kind of "Black racism" are we even talking about in America? 😬
amberorca192 amberorca192 Active Member
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joined Oct 2005
#17 ·
Olivia Martinez20 said:Pure, unadulterated stupidity! Tell me, do you suddenly start saying "that stupid white guy just scored two goals" every time a white player finds the back of the net? 😕 👎

Why bother pointing out that someone's white? In this country—and especially against the teams we usually face—everyone’s white anyway. What's the point? ☕
David Phillips4 David Phillips4 Member
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joined Aug 2004
#18 ·
briskpuma23 said:Look, everyone—it’s honestly pathetic that we need actual laws to cover things that should have been taught at home, in school, or even at church. Things like not calling for murder or spreading hate. The fact that these outbursts of pure primitivism have to be regulated by law is a massive failure for American society as a whole. But since we're here, just read some of the blogs from kids in Washington, D.C., and what they say about donkeys—it's nothing short of pathological hatred. Remember that idiot Zidak who was quoting some acquaintance saying his idol was that pedophile from California "because he's been messing with kids since he was little"? Well, if this new law means people like those primitives and psychopaths actually end up in jail, then it's a good law.

Look, you either have that stuff inside you or you don't... No law on earth is gonna force you to change the way you think... God, the kind of shit you could only say back home on Big Brother... 😁
Bryan Jones82 Bryan Jones82 Member
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joined Dec 2015
#19 ·
People here start making a huge scene whenever there's an insult directed at a Black athlete. It feels like nonsense—just a way to make us feel inferior compared to the rest of the world.
Why is skin color treated as a bigger deal than insults based on nationality, religion, or where someone's from? That stuff happens at pretty much every game. But the second someone gets targeted for their race (like what happened to Edward during that last game in San Francisco), everyone loses their minds and suddenly Americans are all racists.
In the US, we've never really had a massive issue with racism regarding Black players specifically. All this media coverage is just manufactured drama, creating problems out of thin air to make us look bad.

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